MBB: NESCAC

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gordonmann

QuoteAlso, Salisbury eeked out that win because their scorer made a mistake in the book and gave them two points they didn't actually score.

:o

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: gordonmann on February 29, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
QuoteAlso, Salisbury eeked out that win because their scorer made a mistake in the book and gave them two points they didn't actually score.

:o

It happened with like 5 or 6 minutes to go, so it's not really an excuse, but they did score fewer points than the team they beat in that game.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 01, 2016, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on February 29, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
QuoteAlso, Salisbury eeked out that win because their scorer made a mistake in the book and gave them two points they didn't actually score.

:o

It happened with like 5 or 6 minutes to go, so it's not really an excuse, but they did score fewer points than the team they beat in that game.

Just to be factual... Salisbury was given one more point and SVC lost a point... Salisbury wasn't given two actual points. I am convinced the scorer marked down an SVC FT for Salisbury some how. But yeah... that happened. See what happens when you miss the Hoopsville Classic, Gordon? You are left with only experiencing a major book mistake that affects the outcome ONCE during this season (Gordon and I were on the call of St. Vincent and Carthage WBB that had a far more egregious error that affect the game at the D3hoops.com Classic this year).
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amh63

Wow again!   Leave the board and the discussion here is on Middlebury opponents by the big wigs of D3 hoops ;D.
One common thread with Dave, Gordon and Hoops fan.....all have New England roots of sorts :).

booyakasha

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:29:12 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 01, 2016, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on February 29, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
QuoteAlso, Salisbury eeked out that win because their scorer made a mistake in the book and gave them two points they didn't actually score.

:o

It happened with like 5 or 6 minutes to go, so it's not really an excuse, but they did score fewer points than the team they beat in that game.

Just to be factual... Salisbury was given one more point and SVC lost a point... Salisbury wasn't given two actual points. I am convinced the scorer marked down an SVC FT for Salisbury some how. But yeah... that happened. See what happens when you miss the Hoopsville Classic, Gordon? You are left with only experiencing a major book mistake that affects the outcome ONCE during this season (Gordon and I were on the call of St. Vincent and Carthage WBB that had a far more egregious error that affect the game at the D3hoops.com Classic this year).

Hi Dave, this piqued my curiosity... care to elaborate or link to the story of St. Vincent vs Carthage? Thanks

gordonmann

If I recall correctly, late in the second half of the Carthage/St. Vincent game, the scoreboard operator added a point to St. Vincent without any corresponding basket. I don't remember if it was off a missed free throw or what. But it was fairly clear to us that it was a mistake and we assumed it would be corrected. The St. Vincent SID staff was seated to our right and agreed it was a mistake.

Eventually someone got the referee's attention and he visited the scoring table.  After a long discussion, they ruled that a two pointer from earlier in the game was actually a three. I thought that was a very questionable call since no such shot had happened recently, St. Vincent's sideline never lobbied for a change in the score and there was no way for them to go back and do a video review and correct in a timeout, like the NBA. It really looked like they were covering for an error at the scorer's table.

The game ended up going to overtime where St. Vincent won. Carthage's coaching staff was so convinced of the error they asked us (perhaps half jokingly) if they had an ability to protest the final score.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Actually.. it is worse than that, Gordon.

The official book operator thought at 15-foot jumped near us (away from her) was a three-pointer with about three minutes left in the third quarter. She thought she saw the refs put their hands in the air when it never happened. It was a legit two and she put it in the book as a three.

SVC SID staff know the mistake are the ones who discovered where she made the mistake (she had the player down for a two that the stat crew and "video" didn't show her making). However, the official book refused to change the score. Those who run the tournament also were involved trying to get it changed. The refs were brought over during almost every break in the action during the fourth quarter to discuss it ... but apparently because she couldn't point directly to which shot and because Carthage never protested (they actually apparently weren't aware of the discussions - or I have part of that side incorrect), the refs were not actually officially asked if it was a two or three ... or by the time they were asked we were so far removed from the play they couldn't remember if they indicated two or three. So... it stayed a three-pointer and it allowed SVC to tie the game in the end and go on to win in OT.

Carthage's coaching staff was not joking about that error or that protest. They did protest the score and the result and I know they were extremely angry with what happened... to the point I am considering how we can offer simple video review at future D3hoops.com Classics (as Gordon knows, not the easiest of things to consider offering staffing wise).

The next day I had some long conversations with some of the refs per the person who was in charge of the book and their comments were a kin to - when she thinks she is right, good luck proving her wrong of even getting her to change something.

The funniest moment came the next day when our photographer Larry went behind the score table to shoot the ref on the opening tip. The same woman questioned Larry why he was standing there. He explained he was taking a picture. The woman commented that the ref didn't need her picture taken. Larry replied that the ref had asked for it (woman ref leading the crew of a men's game) and followed up with, "why don't you like me worry about how I do my job and you worry about correctly counting baskets" or something to that extent. She turned and shut up.
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polbear73

The accolades continue for Lucas Hausman who has been named a First Team Academic All American.  His 25.3 ppg average has been well publicized but his 3.53 grade point average as an Economics major is also quite impressive.  He is one of many great true student athletes playing in NESCAC. 

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


The lesson here: don't play any school with the initials SVC; you're just asking for controversy.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

SMH - I didn't even consider that. One SVC lost in this situation; the other SVC won. WOW!
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magicman

Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 01, 2016, 03:34:01 PM

The lesson here: don't play any school with the initials SVC; you're just asking for controversy.

Plus K.

pinseeking1


pg04

Quote from: pinseeking1 on March 01, 2016, 06:18:10 PM
I hope this ban on Red Bull won't hurt Midd's chances in the tournament:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/01/fancypants-61456-per-year-college-bans-red-bull-sales-to-reduce-high-risk-sex/

Is low energy sex less risky? This may be one of the silliest bans I've come across.

Bucket

Quote from: pg04 on March 01, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
Quote from: pinseeking1 on March 01, 2016, 06:18:10 PM
I hope this ban on Red Bull won't hurt Midd's chances in the tournament:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/01/fancypants-61456-per-year-college-bans-red-bull-sales-to-reduce-high-risk-sex/

Is low energy sex less risky? This may be one of the silliest bans I've come across.

Much ado about nothing, to be honest. So Middlebury has decided not to sell energy drinks in any of its retail outlets; the college doesn't sell cigarettes, either. But faculty, staff, and students are still free to smoke and drink Red Bull to their hearts' (dis)content. Midd just won't be selling it to you.


Vandy74

#22004
I have to admit that were I to engage in sexual activity with Red Bull's Agent Provocateur it would be very high risk. :P :P :'(

This stuff makes The Onion a serious read.