MBB: NESCAC

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grabtherim

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 10, 2020, 05:07:57 PM
For the record, while I can appreciate parents who have college age kids being fearful of what is going on ... I have also had a number of parents of student-athletes who are beyond frustrated with these decisions and the fact they cannot be at these games. Some are writing the NCAA, the schools making the decisions, and some are considering lawsuits - at least told to me.

So let's also not assume that a parent who has a kid in college thinks in just one particular way.

Interesting point, and as a parent of an athlete I get their frustration, but I also understand the bigger picture as seen by the powers that be. Lawsuits?  Really?  They would have to run to an equity court for immediate relief.  Oh my.  Sadly they would lose.  The arguments of the greater good in preventing possible spread would pulverize them.  I am simply frustrated with what I see as the concern for potentialy catastrophic damage dwarfed by the volume of arguments here for playing and/or watching a game. 

maineman

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If Middlebury is cancelling Men's and Women's Lacrosse this Saturday vs. Trinity, the latter being at home, wouldn't they be obligated to cancel the Women's NCAA Hockey quarterfinal at Midd vs, Endicott the same day?  It appears that they are not doing so.  Lacrosse is played outdoors while hockey indoors.  Wouldn't the rink be a more dangerous environment for the spread of corona virus than the outdoors?  I can't make any sense of it.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: maineman on March 10, 2020, 06:00:01 PM
If Middlebury is cancelling Men's and Women's Lacrosse this Saturday vs. Trinity, the latter being at home, wouldn't they be obligated to cancel the Women's NCAA Hockey final at Midd vs, Endicott the same day?  It appears that they are not doing so.  Lacrosse is played outdoors while hockey indoors.  Wouldn't the rink be a more dangerous environment for the spread of corona virus than the outdoors?  I can't make any sense of it.

Most schools seem to be letting Winter seasons play out.  Also, I've noticed most of the schools are cancelling "official travel" and defining it as travel the school is paying for or reimbursing for.  Technically NCAA play travel is paid for by the NCAA, so it may be a loophole for national tournaments.  We'll have to see how that plays out.
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Looks like Tufts is next in line according to NBN. I won't be surprised if all NESCAC schools follow suit by the end of the week. https://twitter.com/cacsportsblog/status/1237526231156842496?s=21

Pat Coleman

Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2020, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: grabtherim on March 10, 2020, 04:32:56 PM
Please.  Perspective is part of it. Parents of college students all over the country are justifiably worried.  Kids from abroad programs have been coming home in droves.  College students coming back from Spring Break and/or heading to games will be a scare to their parents given the multiple messages coming out on almost an hourly basis.  The minute you would hear similar about your kid, you and other helicopter parents of today would be breaking records to get your kid out of school.  Perspective doesnt matter?  Baloney, it doesnt until it is yours.  Then it does.  How lamely disengenuous.  The games mean crap compared to the bigger picture, and if it was your kid in the school you wouid get it, since it isnt it's easy to be haughty and above it all and say you are above motive and perspective.  What a crock.

That wasn't necessary. Have you ever met Ryan? If you had, you would know better than to write that nonsense.

Thanks, 85. Totally agreed that grabtherim overreached.

Speaking as the father of a college student.
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So will Tufts be allowed to play in the sweet 16 this weekend? If not then what?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: bports on March 10, 2020, 08:32:28 PM
So will Tufts be allowed to play in the sweet 16 this weekend? If not then what?

So far, it seems like most of the schools, if not all, will allow their winter sports seasons to finish up.  Of course, everything has been very fluid lately.
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Being told the NESCAC is cancelling all spring sports. Cannot give sources, info will be released tomorrow I'm sure. Sad day for all NESCAC fans and athletes.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Cards Fan on March 10, 2020, 11:27:09 PM
Being told the NESCAC is cancelling all spring sports. Cannot give sources, info will be released tomorrow I'm sure. Sad day for all NESCAC fans and athletes.

Tufts included this on its release earlier today about its COVID response and we have it in our story on D3sports.com. But the NESCAC office has not responded to our request for confirmation.

https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2020/03/amherst-closes-campus-for-spring
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NESCAC has cancelled all Spring sports. 

What a shame. 

grabtherim

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2020, 08:21:28 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2020, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: grabtherim on March 10, 2020, 04:32:56 PM
Please.  Perspective is part of it. Parents of college students all over the country are justifiably worried.  Kids from abroad programs have been coming home in droves.  College students coming back from Spring Break and/or heading to games will be a scare to their parents given the multiple messages coming out on almost an hourly basis.  The minute you would hear similar about your kid, you and other helicopter parents of today would be breaking records to get your kid out of school.  Perspective doesnt matter?  Baloney, it doesnt until it is yours.  Then it does.  How lamely disengenuous.  The games mean crap compared to the bigger picture, and if it was your kid in the school you wouid get it, since it isnt it's easy to be haughty and above it all and say you are above motive and perspective.  What a crock.



That wasn't necessary. Have you ever met Ryan? If you had, you would know better than to write that nonsense.

Thanks, 85. Totally agreed that grabtherim overreached.

Speaking as the father of a college student.

Schools, conferences, countries, cities etc are closing down left and right based on medical evidence of what is best for public safety. I question what I see as the absurd priority caring about a game or games over this and I'm over reacting.  Are all the others I cited doing much the same?  I would be interested in your opinion.  The government of Italy?  The heads of Harvard, Midd, Amherst, Ohio State, Duke, UCLA, Smith, Tufts, etc etc etc and hundreds of other schools around the country?  The Governor of New York calling in the National Guard to isolate a large area of the huge New York suburb of New Rochelle?  Please enlighten me on how all of these are "over reacting" on a case by case basis citing your credentials versus caring in a "under reacting" way  that a basketball game is played. I get it this stuff is your life more than ours, but people's lives at the most or public safety at the least are more important than basketball or other games being played. And yes perspective matters big time, because if any of you who are saying I am over reacting were in the midst of anything to do with this, you would be singing a different tune. As the father of a college student, how would you feel if a fellow student from the affected area of New Rochelle was sitting next to your kid at a game unaware that he or she may have been exposed and is in the incubation period.  Maybe he sneezes or coughs on your kid. No big deal right?  Roll of the dice, take your chances?  Overreacting to be concerned and prioritize in the scheme of things what is and is not important versus the risks involved? I guess not. Play on, that D3 hoops game is far more important in the scheme of things.  Give me a break.   


 

CNU85

Quote from: grabtherim on March 11, 2020, 08:07:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2020, 08:21:28 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2020, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: grabtherim on March 10, 2020, 04:32:56 PM
Please.  Perspective is part of it. Parents of college students all over the country are justifiably worried.  Kids from abroad programs have been coming home in droves.  College students coming back from Spring Break and/or heading to games will be a scare to their parents given the multiple messages coming out on almost an hourly basis.  The minute you would hear similar about your kid, you and other helicopter parents of today would be breaking records to get your kid out of school.  Perspective doesnt matter?  Baloney, it doesnt until it is yours.  Then it does.  How lamely disengenuous.  The games mean crap compared to the bigger picture, and if it was your kid in the school you wouid get it, since it isnt it's easy to be haughty and above it all and say you are above motive and perspective.  What a crock.



That wasn't necessary. Have you ever met Ryan? If you had, you would know better than to write that nonsense.

Thanks, 85. Totally agreed that grabtherim overreached.

Speaking as the father of a college student.

Schools, conferences, countries, cities etc are closing down left and right based on medical evidence of what is best for public safety. I question what I see as the absurd priority caring about a game or games over this and I'm over reacting.  Are all the others I cited doing much the same?  I would be interested in your opinion.  The government of Italy?  The heads of Harvard, Midd, Amherst, Ohio State, Duke, UCLA, Smith, Tufts, etc etc etc and hundreds of other schools around the country?  The Governor of New York calling in the National Guard to isolate a large area of the huge New York suburb of New Rochelle?  Please enlighten me on how all of these are "over reacting" on a case by case basis citing your credentials versus caring in a "under reacting" way  that a basketball game is played. I get it this stuff is your life more than ours, but people's lives at the most or public safety at the least are more important than basketball or other games being played. And yes perspective matters big time, because if any of you who are saying I am over reacting were in the midst of anything to do with this, you would be singing a different tune. As the father of a college student, how would you feel if a fellow student from the affected area of New Rochelle was sitting next to your kid at a game unaware that he or she may have been exposed and is in the incubation period.  No big deal right?  Overreacting to be concerned? I guess not. Play on. 



You don't get it. Your overreaction is based on the tone in which you replied to Ryan, and now, Pat.  Your choice of words such as What a Crock. Baloney, crap.  An inability to at least consider that viewpoints other than yours are not necessarily incorrect. Pat's comment about over-reacting did not mention at all anything about playing or not playing. And your response to which I am quoting is another example of overreaction. In this case, you are overreacting to Pat's comment. You make good points in your point of view, but they are lost in the tone and manner in which you wish to be defensive and attack others. Take some adjectives out, take a deep breath and post something a little less emotionally sensitive. Nobody is meaning to hurt your feelings. Folks are just stating points of view, showing some confusion and frustration,  and some facts as they know it. In essence, your posts imply "I am right, you are wrong. So everyone see things my way and shutup".

CNU85

Informative link. Guidelines for what/how in situations where COVID 19 is present in a community and where it is not.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/guidance-ihe-response.html