MBB: NESCAC

[qbsfinest]

He is miserable but he is second on the Tufts team in scoring as a sophomore. Did I mention he averaged 27 pts a game in New York City as a senior in high school. ajsnc13- question for u? can u beat him? I didn't think so.

[ajsnc13]

Upon further review,

I'm gonna go ahead and say Petrie and Bedford are extremely hard to compare.  

#1- THey don't play the same position at all, in their four years in the Nescac not only have the never matched up against eachother, but never SHOULD have been matched up either.  Bedford is LISTED at 6'3'', and I wouldn't even say he plays that big, he does a good job of posting up guards, and hitting the three, but just ask teams what happens when you try and guard petrie with a 6'2'' guard, it doesn't even come close to working.  

#2- Bedford does NOT lead his team in rebounding, he's actually tied for second at 4.3 per game.  The contention that that is better than Petrie 6.9 (his career low) because his team has a better rebounding margin is like saying that Petrie is better at stealing the ball (41-29 in Bedford's favor) because his TEAM averages the most in the Nescac...e.g. it doesn't make any sense.  

#3- As far as pure 2 guards go, Bedford is a better choice.  But where else is he going to play on the court? He can't guard a big 3, a 4, or a 5, and when I've seen him play he doesn't have the ability to really create shots for his teamates (and don't argue that olsen does that so he doesn't have to, its Ok to have two good passers on one team, just look at Bradley w/Petrie on Bowdoin).  To argue that Bedford is more versitile is silly, he might (MIGHT!) be better, but NOT more versitile.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree...

[dman]

glad to see so much discussion about all-league stuff.  personally, i could care less who makes it and who doesn't....but with so much interest, maybe we really should start a fantasy league.....

walzy,

you're on...i think williams will steal at least one game from amherst in the next two years.   i'm willing to wager the usual amount....$1.00....because i think after this year, the two squads are pretty even in athleticism, talent, and potential leadership. i think some of williams' underclassmen, who have not contributed much yet, will blossom, when given the chance.  no doubt, amherst will have more size.  plus, neither of us know what potential frosh will do.  meanwhile, i would say that shalvoy has had two bad games all year, and they were both against amherst.  his stats for the whole season are as good or better than olson's, if you care to check them out.  eventually, he will have a great game against you....

amherst by 21, trinity by 9, bates by 6.....

[ajsnc13]

Was the Brox HS of Science in a competetive league?  I don't know exactly, but it sounds like it might have been 27 pts a game in a very weak league.  This is all judging by the name of his school, so I could be wrong.

[Dr E. Spengler]

Allow me to set the ignorant straight once again.  Comparing Bedford to Petrie is completely pointless.  Bedford's season continues after this weekend, where as Petrie's post season record looks similar to that of former cinci coach Bob Huggins...and at least he could look back and blame his failures on alcoholism and KMart's broken leg...

[walzy31]

I've been flirting with the idea all season to make an "All NESCAC All Crazy" team, and now have finally gone through with it.

With the first pick in the 2006 All NESCAC All Crazy team...I select...Blake Curry of Wesleyan.

This was an easy pick as Blake is the LeBron of this year's draft. Thrown head bands, half court turnarounds, or playing anywhere between 4 and 34 minutes.  20 points on 8-21 shooting at Williams / or 5 points on 1-12 shooting at home against Williams...you never know what your're going to get.

Selection criteria:
5 players for first team.
5 players for second team.
No more than one alum named to each team.
Be creative...nicknames are strongly encouraged.

And with the second pick...

[nescachoopsfan]

about jake weitzen, although he does occasionally look unathletic, and by occasionally i mean at most times, but against the assumed poy rhoten, he scored 19 points and seemed unstoppable.  the isolated him on the block 3 consecutive times and scored everytime.  not only on the block but also got isolations at the top of the key and was able to break down any defender trying to guard him on the perimeter, including a dirty pullup against westbrooks, a defensive specialist.  also, after further review the league weitzen played in is the same at current portlant trailblazer point guard sebastian telfair, along with gary erving point guard at mississippi state and st john redstorm eugene lawrence just to name a few.  The new york city public school athletic league is a solid league i'd say.

[walzy31]

With the second pick in the "All NESCAC All Crazy" draft...I select...Simon Behan of Middlebury.

Using my Alum pick early might come back to nip me in the butt, but I could not let "The Tornado" slip by.

Simon "The Tornado" Behan was as fun to watch as any point guard I've ever seen play NESCAC. Off a defensive rebound, Behan was known to bury his head down and race north to south as fast as he could before uncontrollably rifiling the ball against the backboard. Behan was very successfull at two things, the art of getting to the free throw line, and the art of obtaining offensive fouls.

My top two picks both proudly wear the #44. Coincidence? I think not.

1) Blake Curry (Wes)
2) Simon Behan (Midd) - Alum

[Bantom and Bailey]

The Bronx High School of Science?  Give me a break.

[Bantom and Bailey]

anyone know how recruiting is going at Williams, Amherst and Trinity?

[demonizzy]

Was the Brox HS of Science in a competetive league?  I don't know exactly, but it sounds like it might have been 27 pts a game in a very weak league.  This is all judging by the name of his school, so I could be wrong.

The Bronx High School of Science (known as Bronx Science to us nyc folk) plays in the PSAL, one of the top high school leagues in the country, with teams like the current #21 ranked team in the country, Wings Academy. They play in the Bronx West A division with JFK high school (the PSAL champions for 2004-5) and DeWitt Clinton HS, another major NYC basketball power. In addition, i'm pretty sure they play out-of-league games with teams in the CHSAA (Catholic school league), which is the other strong league in NYC. So their league is pretty strong, i'd have to say.

[walzy31]

With the third pick in the "All NESCAC All Crazy" draft...I select... Jeremy Black of Tufts.

Jeremy "Swamp-Ass" Black can play the undersized 2 guard on my starting five. His unorthodox style coupled with his smooth, off balance threes and love for himself reminds me of Mike Dunleavy. Like Dunleavy, Black is picked 3rd in the draft and has players following him who might be more deserving of the 3 spot (see Amare Stoudemire). Black has been known to pass up on the pregame shoot around, and instead partake in a ritualistic starring down of the opposing team. That's crazy.

With the fourth pick in the "All NESCAC All Crazy" draft...I select... Andrew Jenkins of Colby.

Andrew "The Hack" Jenkins picked up his nickname for being far and away the dirtiest player in the league. Straight outta Gorham, Maine, Jenkins is one of Colby's best players and a tri-captain. During games he talks and pinches and grabs, but if you say something back to him...WHACK. I heard that once in a practice "Treyball" blocked "Hack's" shot, and Coach Whitmore had to keep Jenkins away from Cohen. Colby College's President William Adams later stated in a press conference that, "Actions needed to be taken to perserve the livlihood of Drew Cohen. Drew is a great kid who embodies the ideal student athlete at Colby College and it would be a shame to see Andrew inflict wounds on our nation's leading shot blocker."

With the fifth pick in the "All NESCAC All Crazy" draft...I select... Jordan Fliegel of Bowdoin.

This "physical forward with a deft shooting touch (Bowdoin SID)" has been known in NESCAC towns simply as "Roids". Jordan is a strong sophomore who is proud of his muscles. In the Amherst pregame warmups, "Roids" was the only Polar Bear to not wear the uniformed warmup outfit that the rest of the team had on. Instead, Fliegel sported a tight (underarmour like) sleeveless top to show off his bi's and tri's. Well Jordan, you impressed me enough to be my final pick in the first round of the "All NESCAC All Crazy" draft. Congratulations!

1) Blake Curry (Wes)              #44
2) Simon Behan (Midd) - Alum   #44
3) Jeremy Black (Tufts)           #3
4) Andrew Jenkins ( Colby)      #5
5) Jordan Fliegal (Bowdoin)      #34

Can you imagine coaching this starting 5?

Second team TBA...

[walzy31]

Second team "All NESCAC All Crazy":

Jake Weitzen (Tufts) – everyone can agree he doesn't look like a baller but you better not sleep.
Rumor has it that the T-Blazers offered him the 13th spot in the 2004 NBA draft, but he said that that was not a high enough lottery pick and that they might as well waste a pick on NYC rival Sebastian Telfair. Weitzen was quoted after the draft "I can understand Iguodala, Okafor and Gordan going before me...but Rafael Araujo (8th pick) and Andris Biedrins (11th pick)? ? ? C'mon, you can't pronounce their names and I am so unassuming and deadly...pick me."

Pat Sullivan (Tufts) – Another #44, Sullivan invented the phrase "Weitzen-like skills."
The following is an honest to god quote of his:  "All the Amherst guys were so fast. They were all 6'6'' too...well except for Frodo (Andrew Olson). But Frodo is nasty, he's got "Weitzen-like skills."

Jason Grauer (Tufts) – I know that Formerbant, JeffRookie, and Red1 will be upset that Trinity, Amherst, (Conn College) and Bates didn't get any recognition on my all crazy lists, but this Tufts team is loaded with talent. Grauer is best known (and possibly only known) for his role as the Jumbos "hype man". As many of you I am sure are aware, Tufts does a very silly song and dance routine before they storm the court. This is led by Jason "Hype Man" Grauer. The reason he makes my all crazy team is because the hype that he puts on for the Jumbos is crazy. Also, every team needs an enthusiastic fan/player.

Yosef Johnson (Williams) – Lightening fast. I thought I saw him on the most recent And 1 mix tape, but it was Hot Sauce. Still at the point where he is so fast that he can't keep up with himself. Add another 4 onto the back of his jersey and maybe he will make first team next year...as long as it doesn't take away speed.

Will Kuntz (Williams) – A big man with curly dark hair. He has never spoken on the court as well as never started outside of senior night. Best known as "the guy on Williams we will ride all game because his last name is Kuntz." Chants of "Kuntz! Kuntz! Kuntz!" often arise from opposing fans sections.

1) Blake Curry (Wes)               #44
2) Simon Behan (Midd) - Alum   #44
3) Jeremy Black (Tufts)           #3
4) Andrew Jenkins ( Colby)      #5
5) Jordan Fliegal (Bowdoin)      #34

6) Jake Weitzen (Tufts)      #31
7) Pat Sullivan (Tufts)         #44
8 ) Jason Grauer (Tufts)      #1
9) Yosef Johnson (Williams)    #4
10) Will Kuntz (Williams)      #30

Tufts dominates this years draft. I apologize to all who were hoping to make my innagural "All NESCAC All Crazy" team and to all who didn't enjoy it. If you fell short, the best way to impress me next year is during warmups. Also, perhaps dawning the #44 jersey will inspire you to be crazy -- Eric Moore, Kevin Hopkins, Russ Martin, Anthony Begon, Zak Harris, Aaron Smith,  all have already snagged the double 4s--. My bet is Begon and R. Martin to appear in the 2007 edition.
Blake has set the bar high for all of you...

[ajsnc13]

walzy, great post.

[formerbant10]

Walzy, there was another kid from Tufts who should be on there....#50 Brian Fitzgerald.  I've never seen an Irishman with a redder face than this kid.  Many fist pumps and a lot of trash talking to the crowd whenever it was possible. 

And I'm assuming your inspiration from this came from the facebook group set up by some of your colleagues.  Which I'm a big fan of by the way.

And Fleigel was a monster steal at the 5th selection.