MBB: NESCAC

[Conts Fan]

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-division-iii-announces-lgbtq-oneteam-recognition-award-recipients

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Random non-season debate for you all:

On that JJ Redick podcast where Duncan confronted Malcolm Gladwell, Gladwell asked how many points Redick would've scored if he'd played at Williams.  Robinson immediately said "40 plus," and Redick helpfully pointed out he scored 27 ppg as a senior at Duke.

His senior season was 2005-06, which was a mediocre year for Williams with no real stars or much scoring. There were a lot of shots available, although defenses could reliably triple team Reddick without a ton of punishment.

What's the verdict?  How many points could JJ Redick have scored on the 2005-06 Williams squad?

[SpringSt7]

I'll say in the 45-50 range realistically. If Aston Francis averaged 34 points a game as a senior, I think it's reasonable to assume that Redick could get 15 more than that a game if he shot a similar or even higher volume of shots, plus the increase in efficiency. Is 9-20 a reasonable guess for average 3 point output per game? Also despite not being an elite elite athlete, you would think he could still get to the rim a reasonable amount of times as well and be able to score instead the arc.

[JEFFFAN]

Good thread during the worst month of the year during a non-season ...

40 sounds about right.   Despite not allegedly being a "great athlete", he would have been more athletic than 100% of the rest of the players.   I am not even a Duke fan but if you are averaging 27 at the number one D1 program in the country you are plenty athletic.   He would have crushed it at Williams or anywhere else in the NESCAC.   Just crushed it.   

[nescac1]

While he could have easily averaged well over 40 per game if that was his goal, if winning was the goal, he probably would have ended up more like around 35-38 with maybe a dozen assists.  Teams would have been all over him on every single play, surely thrown all kinds of junk defenses at him, and that Williams team while only so-so did have some very capable open shooters on the roster (Chris Rose, Chris Shalvoy, Kevin Snyder, Casey Gibbons) who would have absolutely feasted off loads of uncontested or barely-contested 3's.  Coach Paulsen, I imagine, would rather have very good shooters taking wide open 3's and staying involved in the offense than even a guy like JJ just jacking it up on every other possession. 

[JEFFFAN]

https://nescac.com/news/2021/1/27/nescac-news-nescac-presidents-update-on-spring-sports.aspx?s=03

[jmcozenlaw]

I've got a question for the board. One of my best friends from undergraduate school at Swarthmore will be moving up to the Londonderry, NH area sometime this year. He's a fellow D3 junkie, but work has taken him all over the place, except for New England.

If anybody is familiar with that part of NH, how far is the drive to the closest NESCAC and non-NESCAC schools? UNH can't be that far away and they play some very good D-1A (refuse to say that FCS crap) football and I know that Worcester is not terribly far away and he can catch some Patriot League action at Holy Cross (I seem to remember being able to see their baseball stadium from a major highway.............drivers are insane up that way!! as well as both Dartmouth and Harvard also not being too far away, for some Ivy League action. I'm not as up on the local D3 geography.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I've got a question for the board. One of my best friends from undergraduate school at Swarthmore will be moving up to the Londonderry, NH area sometime this year. He's a fellow D3 junkie, but work has taken him all over the place, except for New England.

If anybody is familiar with that part of NH, how far is the drive to the closest NESCAC and non-NESCAC schools? UNH can't be that far away and they play some very good D-1A (refuse to say that FCS crap) football and I know that Worcester is not terribly far away and he can catch some Patriot League action at Holy Cross (I seem to remember being able to see their baseball stadium from a major highway.............drivers are insane up that way!! as well as both Dartmouth and Harvard also not being too far away, for some Ivy League action. I'm not as up on the local D3 geography.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Londonderry's pretty accessible to a lot of New England because of its proximity to I-93.  Tufts is on the north side of Boston, so that's not a terrible drive.  Everything in New England is pretty compact.  Amherst and Williams and Midd are farther (2-3 hours), but there's a lot of other teams in New England where you can see games easily.

I add this only because it still seems so odd to me that it's true: if your friend is the kind of person in search of a worshipping community, I went to college with two different clergymen who have congregations in Londonderry.

[saratoga]

JM:
Just make sure your friend stays away from the "troubles' while in Londonderry. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[Sabrina76]

In the FWIW category, Harry Sheehy retired today from his Dartmouth athletic director position. Having covered him for two years in the day and with children who played varsity sports at Dartmouth, I have always kept up with what he's been up to.
Lots of sub-plots going on now with Dartmouth athletics which is more suited for another board, but he is around 68 with a full career behind him. Very difficult guy to cover particularly when you're giving up 5 inches and can't really jump. But then he had that with pretty much everybody he played. Long time lurker on this board and first time poster, but I'm a bit bored with no games in NESCAC and the Ivies. I've really enjoyed the civil and high quality commentary here.

[toad22]

Sabrina76, great to have you on the board! Your post reminded me of a story. My younger brother guarded Harry once, and reports that by grabbing, clutching, scratching, and illegally impeding, he held Harry to about ten points in the first half. My brother says he was shocked that he only picked up four fouls. He fouled out early in H2. Harry went on to score 28.

I am certain that this is not the way Harry wanted to go out at Dartmouth. However, he can now look forward to many more rounds at Taconic, and lots of beer and talk on the porch at 4! Williams is a lot more civilized than Dartmouth. We have a great golf course and they have none (anymore).

[JEFFFAN]

Someone had to take the fall for the Title 9 debacle at Dartmouth and it looks like it was Sheehy.   Can't fire the president so you allow the AD to retire.   Dartmouth looks awful with the way they handling their efforts to get rid of some of their sports programs.   A course in "how not to eliminate sports" taught at both Brown and Dartmouth!

[AmherstStudent05]

First post in a while for me. I saw recently that d3hoops put together some all American teams of the decade, and so I thought it might be fun to put together an All NESCAC team of the decade (2010-2019). This is what I came up with.

First Team

F Michael Mayer, Williams
F Ryan Sharry, Middlebury
G Kena Gilmour, Hamilton
G Lucas Hausman, Bowdoin
G Aaron Toomey, Amherst

Second Team

F Troy Whittington, Williams
F Willy Workman, Amherst
G Matt St Amour, Middlebury
G James Wang, Williams
G Joey Kizel, Middlebury

Very challenging to squeeze so many great players over the past decade into just ten slots. At first blush, if I had an "Honorable Mention" team it would include Luke Rogers, Jack Daly, Bobby Casey, Ed Ogundeko and probably James Heskett. Obviously Duncan Robinson would have been a virtual lock had he not transferred out of our league (thank God) and Matt Hart and Austin Hutchinson would also likely been strong contenders had they not transferred as well. Blake Schultz also deserves a shout out, but he did much of his work in the previous decade.  Also, I realize that this list focuses largely on Amherst, Williams and Middlebury but they were unquestionably the strongest three programs of the decade.

Unlike the first and second team selections, I found the other awards to be quite straightforward.

Player of the Decade: Aaron Toomey
Defensive Player of the Decade: Nolan Thompson
Rookie of the Decade: Duncan Robinson
Coach of the Decade: Dave Hixon

I hope everyone is well and staying safe!

[Sabrina76]

Someone had to take the fall for the Title 9 debacle at Dartmouth and it looks like it was Sheehy.   Can't fire the president so you allow the AD to retire.   Dartmouth looks awful with the way they handling their efforts to get rid of some of their sports programs.   A course in "how not to eliminate sports" taught at both Brown and Dartmouth!

Dartmouth tried to ditch swimming around 10-15 years ago, but the alumni objected and funded the program, though apparently not enough (though it didn't seem like $$$ was really the issue this time). Wright handled that poorly and so has Hanlon this time. But so did Sheehy. He has struggled with many alums over his coaching choices and general leadership, so his bungling of the Title IX issues made him perhaps vulnerable. The faculties at these schools seem to really resent the athletic programs. That of course is a forever topic.