MBB: NESCAC

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Trinity needs one more signature win to get in.

Who they beat doesn't necessarily matter so long as the teams have decent records.  The selection committee goes by QOWI number and regional ranking, the first of which comes out tomorrow.  We'll know for sure where they stand then, of course I think Trinity is on pretty solid footing already.

[CCsalive]

"...of course, but that wasn't the point i was getting at. if amherst has the ball with 10 seconds to go in a tie game i have no idea who they are trying to set up for the shot." -great poiont nescac hoops

Wouldn't the Amherst faithful want to sincerely address this point with something other than sarcasm? Last tiime I watched Classics I'm pretty sure the '91 Runnin Rebs won 30+ in a row before getting shocked...The fact is, Amherst has to fear their in-conference oppenents long before trying to advance in a national tournament. Then, I see them losing to a Northeast opponent, maybe even NYU or a possible a Stevens Tech, St. John Fischer type team....

[formerbant10]

Hoops, I'm with you on Trinity's solid footing.  This isn't D1 where "signature" wins get you more points.  It's based on the QOWI and Trinity having only 3 losses at this point and at most 5 (the last 2 to very good teams) they'll be in very good shape if they don't win the AQ.

With as many losses as Tufts has, they'll need to win the Pool A bid.  Regardless of how they've done against common opponents with Trinity 19-3 is a lot easier to put in than 13-8.

With 10 seconds left, Amherst will spread the floor and let Olson create.  If they let him go to the hoop he's going to score or get fouled, and he'll find any open man if help comes.

I've seen St. John Fisher play this year, they are nowhere close to previous year's talent and should not be able to upset a NESCAC team.

[CCsalive]

formerbant-------Life in the Roc!

[formerbant10]

It's been snowing for a month straight up here.  But I was glad to see Fisher play to see what the hype was all about.

They have a decent big man, and one really good shooter.  Overall good size, but nothing too special.

[The Historian]

historian, you are picking lil wheeler over pierce for ROY?

Yes, and I voted for Baskauskas last year.

History will prove me right.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

In preparation for the initial regional rankings tomorrow, I did the QOWI for all the NE region teams with a number at 9 or better.  I'm posting them to the NE Region Rankings board soon.

[eclinchy]

historian, you are picking lil wheeler over pierce for ROY?

Yes, and I voted for Baskauskas last year.

History will prove me right.

You're completely missing the point.  This isn't about history.

You're supposed to pick the "rookie of the year," not the "rookie who will eventually have the best career."  This year, Pierce is the obvious choice for ROY.

As for Pool Cs, I think whoever lasts longer in the tournament between Tufts/Trin gets in.  I'm sure Tufts has a solid QOWI despite their losses -- they should be fine if they can take care of business the rest of the way (not that that's a certainty or anything).

[nescac hoops]

eclinchy,
can you fill me in? is pierce a "true freshman" or did he transfer in from somewhere? on the roster he is lister as a sophomore.

[formerbant10]

Clinchy,

Trinity's QOWI is .8 higher than Tufts.  Hoops did a good job of the calculations and put in on the NE Rankings board.

If Tufts plays Trinity again and beats them, then they have a good argument for getting in over the Bants, but right now 8 losses against 3 may be a big deciding factor.

[hoopjunkie]

Pierce is a sophmore who transfered from Drew university , but
did not play for them .
Btw who votes from ROY , POY, NESCAC teams ??

[nescac hoops]

Depending when in the season you play an opponent , that will determine your success .
Also what Ive heard if anyone has heard of this .
I heard William Patterson kept
alot of great talent off the team in the first semester , so they would be eliglible
to play 2nd semester & not flunk off the team .
Has any experienced anything like this ??

junkie,
i'm not exactly sure what was meant by this post but i think the jist of it is that sometimes it matters WHEN you play a certain opponent due to injuries, current team morale/confidence, and apparently academic suspensions. if i understand this correctly, trinity did beat a bates team on the road who, at the time, was undefeated and was ranked in the top 15. obviously, that didn't prove to be as big of a win as it should of been....or atleast what we thought it would be at the time. however, going by what i think was your point in your post back in january, the bants have had a defining win up in lewiston. yes, the jumbos took one from trinity on the second day at home. that's a long trip for the bants and i just think that tufts has some truly glaring losses to make it. however, with the tourny expanding this year and if the jumbos can make it to the nescac finals i may feel differently.

coaches vote on conference awards. i consider pierce to be a rookie even if he technically isn't a freshman. however, he may not be considered one by the league. i'm not sure how that works to be honest but i could see him not qualifying as a rookie by conference standards. not sure.

[daoustian]

walzy: After all that laughing you only aspire to getting to South Hadley?

There's a lot of tail in South Hadley.  Laugh your way there.  Stop.  Get your rocks off.  Drive back up Route 116 and keep laughing.  Sounds like a perfectly reasonable aspiration.  Did it many times myself.

[The Historian]

You're completely missing the point.  This isn't about history.

Then you're doomed to repeat it.

[hoopjunkie]

Hoops, I was just asking if anyone had heard of schools keeping players
off the team in the first semester , so they don`t flunk off the team & are eligible
to play second semester . I don`t think it would happen in the NESCAC ,
but maybe less academic conferences have different sets of rules .