MBB: NESCAC

Pat Coleman · February 07, 2008, 10:05:57 AM

Audio of said game Friday night will be broadcast on D3hoopsNet.

http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/

hoopjunkie · February 07, 2008, 10:37:46 AM

Congrads to Charles Stone of the Camels . He has always been one of my favorite players . Under the rader but real solid . His career has really mirrored my other favorite Jake Weitzen of Tufts . Their numbers over 4 years are so similar .
Career points : Stone 1317 - Weitzen 1379
Rebounds : Stone 675 - Weitzen 585

The Jumbos were Ncaa sweet 16 Weitzen sophomore year
Can the Camel make the Ncaa`s Stone `s senior year ??
I don`t think they can beat Amherst , not enough size . Stone will have problems .

eclinchy · February 07, 2008, 12:48:21 PM

Quote from: CCsalive on February 07, 2008, 09:15:47 AM
eclinchy- Could you please let us know how many shots each Tufts player took in the UMD game? Did your shot selection theory work? I am dying to know.

For the love of all that's holy, please make an effort to get your facts straight.

That wasn't my post.

CCsalive · February 07, 2008, 01:05:52 PM

Eclinch- I apologize. I swore it was you with the rediculous Tufts stats. Obviously Tufts has a great program and I am merely basking a little bit w/ the Camels at 16-4 and 3-2 in the league. You may recall the Camels having some rough years.

Stone is an amazing guy. He's a got a high basketball IQ and he can really elevate his game when surrounded by better and bigger players. He's never really developed a refined back-to-the-basket game, but he is a low-post nightmare and a high-post weapon. You don't see many guys dominate the lane with that type of variety.

On the wing, CC soph Shavar Bernier is a high-level player. He can guard the best players in the league and score the ball too (I actually hate the phrase "score the ball" what the Hell else would he score Jay Bilas you Dook a$$hole!)

For CC to beat Amherst, Jeff Young needs to have the game of his career. Two years ago, in the opening round play-off game, Young scored on 3-4 possessions in a row on Casnocha. The refs took Stone out of that game early and CC never had a chance...not that many did against Bedford, Coulibaly, etc.

A lower-scoring game with CC hitting the three can result in a win for the Camels...extend your Defense and you risk Stone going Monster on you...I hope it happens.

fpc85 · February 07, 2008, 01:47:41 PM

Quote from: CCsalive on February 07, 2008, 01:05:52 PM
Eclinch- I apologize. I swore it was you with the rediculous Tufts stats. Obviously Tufts has a great program and I am merely basking a little bit w/ the Camels at 16-4 and 3-2 in the league. You may recall the Camels having some rough years.

Stone is an amazing guy. He's a got a high basketball IQ and he can really elevate his game when surrounded by better and bigger players. He's never really developed a refined back-to-the-basket game, but he is a low-post nightmare and a high-post weapon. You don't see many guys dominate the lane with that type of variety.

On the wing, CC soph Shavar Bernier is a high-level player. He can guard the best players in the league and score the ball too (I actually hate the phrase "score the ball" what the Hell else would he score Jay Bilas you Dook a$$hole!)

For CC to beat Amherst, Jeff Young needs to have the game of his career. Two years ago, in the opening round play-off game, Young scored on 3-4 possessions in a row on Casnocha. The refs took Stone out of that game early and CC never had a chance...not that many did against Bedford, Coulibaly, etc.

A lower-scoring game with CC hitting the three can result in a win for the Camels...extend your Defense and you risk Stone going Monster on you...I hope it happens.

JeffRookie2 · February 07, 2008, 02:01:24 PM

Quote from: CCsalive on February 07, 2008, 09:15:47 AM
CC is 16-4 and no doubt geared up for a run at the Lord Jeffs.

I think we should have a nescac rule where you are not allowed to brag about your team's record until they have played the amherst-trinity weekend. I mean, CC is 3-2 in conference with wins against wesleyan and tufts, who everyone has beaten. The combined NESCAC record of the in-conference teams the camels have beaten is 2-14. If you have already played the trinity-amherst weekend, and are still doing well, then by all means talk up how your team is doing. If you havent played the bantams and jeffs though, you havent really proven anything. As Bowdoin proved last weekend, it takes a pretty good effort just to go 1-1 that weekend.

CCsalive · February 07, 2008, 02:27:27 PM

JeffRook,
That's a fair point. And, you could question CC's overall strenght of schedule. BUT, tack on two losses this weekend and I'm still pumped about a 3-4 Camel squad playing the Midd/Williams weekend.

fpc85 · February 07, 2008, 02:53:45 PM

Quote from: CCsalive on February 07, 2008, 02:27:27 PM
JeffRook,
That's a fair point. And, you could question CC's overall strenght of schedule. BUT, tack on two losses this weekend and I'm still pumped about a 3-4 Camel squad playing the Midd/Williams weekend.

you should raise your expectations... you have a good team.

CCsalive · February 07, 2008, 03:16:26 PM

fpc85,

Thank you for the kind words. Why not elaborate? What do you think of CC?
Awfully quiet for a Thursday on the NESCAC board, no?
That's what happens I guess when my Hamilton Continentals role over the Ephs. Or, are the Jeffs and Bants over confident? Tufts is 0-5, but has a realistic chance to finish 4-5 don't they?

If CC wins tomorrow night you have to lock Charles Stone in as POY. And, you have to elevate Satran in the COY talk.
Trinity is more likely to come into the weekend over-confident...roided-up steak-heads that they are. They'll want to be careful vs. CC on the second day of a back-to-back (belly to belly for you John Sterling fans out there).

Regardless, come play-offs, CC is the next team after Amherst (and maybe Trinity) that no one will want to play.

Disclaimer: The roid heads thing was only meant to cue FormerBant

hoopjunkie · February 07, 2008, 03:55:40 PM

CC . I will say that Conn. has a nice team this year , however I would be suprised if you guys beat Amherst . As I have said before Stone is awesome , but Amherst & even Trinity are tough tough teams . Amherst goes 10 deep when you get killed by Jones they come in with Goldsmith . Their size is D1 level. Brian B in my opinion is the smoothest player in the league. They being said I am a Tufts Jumbos fan !! I have not yet given up . I just think opening up at Amherst & Trinity really has taken the toll on the Jumbos & our backcourt has been awful . Black not scoring last night is unacceptable .

old_hooper · February 07, 2008, 04:16:04 PM

Just to pick up on JRook comments, CC has 7 of 16 wins against winning teams, 8 of 16 against losing teams and 1 against a .500 team. Amherst has 15 of 19 against winning record teams and 3 against a losing record and 1 against .500 team. What does it mean...nothing when the ball goes up on Friday. CC really has a size disadvantage and I think you can probably throw in experience into that too! CC has the toughest part of its schedule in front of them in the next 4 games.

eclinchy · February 07, 2008, 04:33:50 PM

Quote from: hoopjunkie on February 07, 2008, 03:55:40 PMour backcourt has been awful . Black not scoring last night is unacceptable .

Jeremy Black in Tufts' 10 wins:
12.7 points per game, 5.9 assists, 3.0 turnovers (1.97 A/T ratio)

Black in Tufts' 10 losses:
5.7 ppg, 5.2 apg, 4.6 TO (1.13 A/T ratio)

hoopjunkie · February 07, 2008, 04:40:05 PM

Big test for Black this weekend against 2 of the best point guards in the league Rudin & Shalvoy .
I think he will do ok since they both do not posses great speed or quickness they are just damn good.

Will Pierce ever pass to an open man

??

formerbant10 · February 07, 2008, 05:46:00 PM

I don't think anyone would really want to face Bowdoin in the playoffs....or Williams for that matter. Williams got hot in the tourney last year and won the whole thing. Bowdoin seems as tough as any this year. Crazy things can happen in the NESCAC.....that's why they play the games.

Steak-heads....maybe. Roided-up (don't be jealous of the squash team's win streak).

I don't think Amherst or Trin will be over-confident. I'm sure the Jeffs would like to wrap up the top seed this weekend, therefore taking it very seriously. I'm positive the Bants need these two wins badly to ensure they are a 2 or 3, making sure they wouldn't have to play Amherst till the championship game.

Glad to see Satran getting things turned around (hopefully for good) down there.

fpc85 · February 07, 2008, 07:34:10 PM

Quote from: CCsalive on February 07, 2008, 03:16:26 PM
fpc85,

Thank you for the kind words. Why not elaborate? What do you think of CC?
Awfully quiet for a Thursday on the NESCAC board, no?
That's what happens I guess when my Hamilton Continentals role over the Ephs. Or, are the Jeffs and Bants over confident? Tufts is 0-5, but has a realistic chance to finish 4-5 don't they?

If CC wins tomorrow night you have to lock Charles Stone in as POY. And, you have to elevate Satran in the COY talk.
Trinity is more likely to come into the weekend over-confident...roided-up steak-heads that they are. They'll want to be careful vs. CC on the second day of a back-to-back (belly to belly for you John Sterling fans out there).

Regardless, come play-offs, CC is the next team after Amherst (and maybe Trinity) that no one will want to play.

Disclaimer: The roid heads thing was only meant to cue FormerBant

CC, i have always liked conn coll. they play together and run princeton sets as well as any team. satran is a good man who deserves any success that comes his way. losing the kid a few years back to hamiliton set them back a bit. whatever happened to the big guy eli? stone is tough..the jeff bigs will have their hands full...i don't know much about the perimeter players....all in all i think conn is starting to believe that they can get it done...just not tomorrow

. i will be there tomorrow cheering the jeffs on.