MBB: NESCAC

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formerbant10

I'd venture to say that all 4 remaining teams are candidates for Pool C's...with Amherst being a lock. The other 3 have pretty solid SOSs and are in the regional rankings, so they are in pretty good shape. 

Nice job by the Bantam seniors tonight, all 4 in double figures.

formerbant10

PS.

Pabegg does a great job with the Pool C stuff in the Pool C thread.  Any questions should go his way.

He's got Trin ranked ahead of Bowdoin....but they are C4 and C5, which means they are in very good shape.

senatorfrost

 I think I liked Middlebury for third. I thought they would be close to Amherst and maybe beat them but without Harris they didn't-- He's back and after today they kind of remind me of the little girl with the curl in the middle of her forehead. When she was good she was very very good (Willams Bowdoin) and when she was bad she was horrid. (Conn getting 96) After today they look like the team to beat.
  What I liked best about the game today was that Goldsmith looks to be just about back. I don't think there is too much question that Amherst simply looked better when he was in there. When he gets a step he's by you. No agonizing waiting to see if he'll keep his advantage. He usually does. Lineup of Olson, Baskauskas, Walters and Goldsmith looked best to me. Goldsmith's play lately has given me a case of slight optimism. Wheeler has a really nice looking shot and today it went in. Almost effortless.

senatorfrost

 Ooops my mistake. Well every once in a very long while I do make one. Conn only score 93 vs. Middlebury. They scored 95 vs. New England College and 87 v Eastern Conn. I think if you're focused on defense, a team like Middlebury can most likely hold a team like Conn to about 75. (maybe less)

lefrakenstein

Some highlights from yesterday's Amherst-Colby game you might not read about in the recaps:

On an amherst fast break, a colby player deflected a pass out of bounds, right towards coach hixon. Hixon, without missing a beat, catches the ball and rifles it to olson, who had never stopped running, and finished the break with a nice lay-up.

Late in the game, with the score getting out of hand, olson is all alone on a fast break and has the opportunity for an uncontested lay-up, but instead pulls up, waits to draw a confused colby defender, then fires a no-look pass to walters for a slam dunk. Of all the things to miss about olson when he graduates, i think his showmanship will be missed the most. It really infuses the team with confidence and gets the crowd going. I hope meehan is taking notes.

Kurt Bennett got into the game and went to the foul line, and proceded to shoot one of the ugliest looking free throws I have ever seen. The entire amherst student section spontaneously let out a very audible groan as soon as he shot it. He is going to have to work on that for next season.

Overall it was a great game. The team really looked like they were having a blast out there, and its when they're having fun that they're the most dangerous. Other teams should beware. Looking forward to a re-match with Bowdoin next weekend as part of a quadruple-header of basketball at LeFrak on Saturday. Can't wait!!

backinmyday

Few observations from the Conn - Trinity game.  The Conn team is a very talented team and I could not have been more impressed with how hard they worked throughout the entire game.  Enough can not be said about them and my respect for them.  Even when down 19, they still fought hard and played tough. Martin outplayed Stone in every possible aspect of the game.  He offensively did what he wanted and defensively held Stone in check or simply denied any pass from even getting to him where he could do something with it.  Something else rather interesting to note is that while sitting near the parents from Trinity during the game, I overheard quite a few times that Martin has had pneumonia for the past month??? If that is so, what he has done still averaging 15 and 7 in the NESCAC...impressive.  Another player who deserves more credit is Aaron Westbrooks.  He held Mosley to what looked to be total frustration throughout the game.  Westbrooks was too fast and strong for the quick guard, again prompting me to think of him as one of the premier defenders in the league.  Bernier #24 shot absolutely lights out in the second half, sometimes in the 25-28ft range.  He was the reason the Camels were in the game.  Overall it was an impressive defensive game for Trinity, although the Camels did shoot 74% in the second half, mostly due to Bernier shot about 90% in the second half.

eclinchy

Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PMOf all the things to miss about olson when he graduates, i think his showmanship will be missed the most.

I'm sorry, but that is just a ridiculous statement.

His leadership?  His incredible court vision?  His athleticism?  His pure shooting ability?  His defensive intensity?  His endurance?

Oh... no, it's the showmanship.  My mistake.

lefrakenstein

Quote from: eclinchy on February 24, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PMOf all the things to miss about olson when he graduates, i think his showmanship will be missed the most.

I'm sorry, but that is just a ridiculous statement.

His leadership?  His incredible court vision?  His athleticism?  His pure shooting ability?  His defensive intensity?  His endurance?

Oh... no, it's the showmanship.  My mistake.

haha, ok, maybe that was an overstatement. Nevertheless, I think it might be harder than any of the things you named to replace. Amherst routinely recruits great athletes with endurance that can shoot and have great court vision. There are always a few leaders on the team. (and it is debatable that olson is currently one of them--if so it is a 'lead by example' style of leadership) For all of Olson's strengths, few Amherst observers would say that defensive intensity is one of them. Finding another point guard who can put on a show like olson can, however, will be quite a task.

I have no concerns about Meehan, he is going to be a great player. I just dont think he'll play with the same flare as olson. (i have never seen another point guard on the d3 level that does.)

lefrakenstein

Quote from: backinmyday on February 24, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
Another player who deserves more credit is Aaron Westbrooks.  He held Mosley to what looked to be total frustration throughout the game.  Westbrooks was too fast and strong for the quick guard, again prompting me to think of him as one of the premier defenders in the league. 

If I could take one player off the Bantams and put him on the Jeffs it would be Aaron Westbrooks. His defense is invaluable. He is the only player I have seen this year who was able to put the brakes on Fletcher Walters. He got into foul trouble, but if it hadn't been for that, I think Amherst would have had a tougher time. The defensive player of the year conversation should center around Westbrooks and Sargeantson of Bowdoin.

fpc85

Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: eclinchy on February 24, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PMOf all the things to miss about olson when he graduates, i think his showmanship will be missed the most.

I'm sorry, but that is just a ridiculous statement.

His leadership?  His incredible court vision?  His athleticism?  His pure shooting ability?  His defensive intensity?  His endurance?

Oh... no, it's the showmanship.  My mistake.

haha, ok, maybe that was an overstatement. Nevertheless, I think it might be harder than any of the things you named to replace. Amherst routinely recruits great athletes with endurance that can shoot and have great court vision. There are always a few leaders on the team. (and it is debatable that olson is currently one of them--if so it is a 'lead by example' style of leadership) For all of Olson's strengths, few Amherst observers would say that defensive intensity is one of them. Finding another point guard who can put on a show like olson can, however, will be quite a task.

I have no concerns about Meehan, he is going to be a great player. I just dont think he'll play with the same flare as olson. (i have never seen another point guard on the d3 level that does.)
seriously, you need to be quiet.

fpc85

Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: backinmyday on February 24, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
Another player who deserves more credit is Aaron Westbrooks.  He held Mosley to what looked to be total frustration throughout the game.  Westbrooks was too fast and strong for the quick guard, again prompting me to think of him as one of the premier defenders in the league. 

If I could take one player off the Bantams and put him on the Jeffs it would be Aaron Westbrooks. His defense is invaluable. He is the only player I have seen this year who was able to put the brakes on Fletcher Walters. He got into foul trouble, but if it hadn't been for that, I think Amherst would have had a tougher time. The defensive player of the year conversation should center around Westbrooks and Sargeantson of Bowdoin.
please no more

lefrakenstein

Quote from: fpc85 on February 24, 2008, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: eclinchy on February 24, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PMOf all the things to miss about olson when he graduates, i think his showmanship will be missed the most.

I'm sorry, but that is just a ridiculous statement.

His leadership?  His incredible court vision?  His athleticism?  His pure shooting ability?  His defensive intensity?  His endurance?

Oh... no, it's the showmanship.  My mistake.

haha, ok, maybe that was an overstatement. Nevertheless, I think it might be harder than any of the things you named to replace. Amherst routinely recruits great athletes with endurance that can shoot and have great court vision. There are always a few leaders on the team. (and it is debatable that olson is currently one of them--if so it is a 'lead by example' style of leadership) For all of Olson's strengths, few Amherst observers would say that defensive intensity is one of them. Finding another point guard who can put on a show like olson can, however, will be quite a task.

I have no concerns about Meehan, he is going to be a great player. I just dont think he'll play with the same flare as olson. (i have never seen another point guard on the d3 level that does.)
seriously, you need to be quiet.

good arguments

lefrakenstein

Quote from: fpc85 on February 24, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: backinmyday on February 24, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
Another player who deserves more credit is Aaron Westbrooks.  He held Mosley to what looked to be total frustration throughout the game.  Westbrooks was too fast and strong for the quick guard, again prompting me to think of him as one of the premier defenders in the league. 

If I could take one player off the Bantams and put him on the Jeffs it would be Aaron Westbrooks. His defense is invaluable. He is the only player I have seen this year who was able to put the brakes on Fletcher Walters. He got into foul trouble, but if it hadn't been for that, I think Amherst would have had a tougher time. The defensive player of the year conversation should center around Westbrooks and Sargeantson of Bowdoin.
please no more

the biggest difference between this year's team and last year's team is the lack of a lock-down perimeter defender like salerno or mclaughlin. westbrooks is that type of player.

lefrakenstein

Quote from: fpc85 on February 23, 2008, 06:43:07 PM
the jeffs win and ugly game. the game was uneventful. they gradually increased the lead from a good colby team. colby ran good stuff but could have used another scorer. bring on bowdoin. btw, choice had a great game and is a very good player and deserves all the credit he gets.

these are the kind of vapid, idiotic posts that we could use less of.

fpc85

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Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: fpc85 on February 24, 2008, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: eclinchy on February 24, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PMOf all the things to miss about olson when he graduates, i think his showmanship will be missed the most.

I'm sorry, but that is just a ridiculous statement.

His leadership?  His incredible court vision?  His athleticism?  His pure shooting ability?  His defensive intensity?  His endurance?

Oh... no, it's the showmanship.  My mistake.

haha, ok, maybe that was an overstatement. Nevertheless, I think it might be harder than any of the things you named to replace. Amherst routinely recruits great athletes with endurance that can shoot and have great court vision. There are always a few leaders on the team. (and it is debatable that olson is currently one of them--if so it is a 'lead by example' style of leadership) For all of Olson's strengths, few Amherst observers would say that defensive intensity is one of them. Finding another point guard who can put on a show like olson can, however, will be quite a task.

I have no concerns about Meehan, he is going to be a great player. I just dont think he'll play with the same flare as olson. (i have never seen another point guard on the d3 level that does.)
seriously, you need to be quiet.

good arguments
who is arguing?
Quote from: lefrakenstein on February 24, 2008, 05:33:18 PM
Quote from: fpc85 on February 23, 2008, 06:43:07 PM
the jeffs win and ugly game. the game was uneventful. they gradually increased the lead from a good colby team. colby ran good stuff but could have used another scorer. bring on bowdoin. btw, choice had a great game and is a very good player and deserves all the credit he gets.

these are the kind of vapid, idiotic posts that we could use less of.
you shouldn't attack someone who is trying to do you a favor....please go study. don't you go to school with these guys?