MBB: NESCAC

[walzy31]

Well, no they don't but I think they would at least have both Bradeis and Amherst somewhere in the top 10. The two schools are an hour and a half apart! Looking quickly through Plattsburg's schedule, their only NCAA caliber win seemed to be Middlebury while Amherst and Brandeis have a combined 10+ wins against NCAA teams. I hope for the sake of ridiculousness, that its an Amherst-Brandeis final this weekend (which I would bet on anyways) playing 5+ hours away on the Canadian border in front of only their parents while their student bodies listen to a spotty d3cast broadcast.

I think the NCAA may have decided for once to follow their criteria.  Plattsburgh has the only undefeated regional record in the country.  If you look on D-III hoops they are ranked #1 on the SOS measurement.

Their non-conference schedule compares in W-L to the other three teams in the regionals, all played out of conference teams with a 57% win %, and Plattsburgh's was dropped by an unexpected game vs. SUNY Purchase (3-22) when they were upset in a post-break game at Union, otherwise Plattsburgh would have had a higher non-conference win % than the other three teams. 

In conference, the Cards were undefeated & won both the regular season and the conference tournament and were the first team since Potsdam's 60 game winning streak team (86-87) to do that trifecta.  Amherst DID lose in the semis of its conference tournament.

I also know that the New York contingent was pretty unhappy three years ago when three New York teams with a combined record of (76-7) including an undefeated team, had to truck (in a blizzard) to Amherst, which acted like it could care less about their visitors, (no concessions, poor parking, not hotels close to the venue) and did frankly a lousy job of hosting the sectional, not to mention losing the first night.

Go Cards

I am sure this all weighed heavily in the minds of the commitee that chooses the host sites.

Actually back in 1973.... Plattsburgh!

[theBroadcaster]

The NCAA doesn't have to agree with our rankings.

Well, no they don't but I think they would at least have both Bradeis and Amherst somewhere in the top 10. The two schools are an hour and a half apart! Looking quickly through Plattsburg's schedule, their only NCAA caliber win seemed to be Middlebury while Amherst and Brandeis have a combined 10+ wins against NCAA teams. I hope for the sake of ridiculousness, that its an Amherst-Brandeis final this weekend (which I would bet on anyways) playing 5+ hours away on the Canadian border in front of only their parents while their student bodies listen to a spotty d3cast broadcast.

I really do hope that this does happen, and I assure you, if you were listen to the WBRS call of that game (and we will be there), you would be pleasantly surprised by the level of the broadcast 

[eclinchy]

Spotty video > no video at all.  Just saying.

[CCsalive]

For the record, Conn beat Coast Guard.
Based on d3hoops.com "Posting Up" Logic, this makes us a Sweet 16 team.

[fpc85]

The NCAA doesn't have to agree with our rankings.

Well, no they don't but I think they would at least have both Bradeis and Amherst somewhere in the top 10. The two schools are an hour and a half apart! Looking quickly through Plattsburg's schedule, their only NCAA caliber win seemed to be Middlebury while Amherst and Brandeis have a combined 10+ wins against NCAA teams. I hope for the sake of ridiculousness, that its an Amherst-Brandeis final this weekend (which I would bet on anyways) playing 5+ hours away on the Canadian border in front of only their parents while their student bodies listen to a spotty d3cast broadcast.

I'll be there.  Not lookin forward to the drive though.
I've only seen NCAA games in Lefrak and the Salem Civic Center, so I'm interested to see how the atmosphere compares.

I am driving up in the 'ol faithful minvan...6+ hours...with the entire van filled!...hmmm, I think I will wear my blue  battery powered warmup suit 8) the guys really got a kick out of that.

[fpc85]

Well, no they don't but I think they would at least have both Bradeis and Amherst somewhere in the top 10. The two schools are an hour and a half apart! Looking quickly through Plattsburg's schedule, their only NCAA caliber win seemed to be Middlebury while Amherst and Brandeis have a combined 10+ wins against NCAA teams. I hope for the sake of ridiculousness, that its an Amherst-Brandeis final this weekend (which I would bet on anyways) playing 5+ hours away on the Canadian border in front of only their parents while their student bodies listen to a spotty d3cast broadcast.

I think the NCAA may have decided for once to follow their criteria.  Plattsburgh has the only undefeated regional record in the country.  If you look on D-III hoops they are ranked #1 on the SOS measurement.

Their non-conference schedule compares in W-L to the other three teams in the regionals, all played out of conference teams with a 57% win %, and Plattsburgh's was dropped by an unexpected game vs. SUNY Purchase (3-22) when they were upset in a post-break game at Union, otherwise Plattsburgh would have had a higher non-conference win % than the other three teams. 

In conference, the Cards were undefeated & won both the regular season and the conference tournament and were the first team since Potsdam's 60 game winning streak team (86-87) to do that trifecta.  Amherst DID lose in the semis of its conference tournament.

I also know that the New York contingent was pretty unhappy three years ago when three New York teams with a combined record of (76-7) including an undefeated team, had to truck (in a blizzard) to Amherst, which acted like it could care less about their visitors, (no concessions, poor parking, not hotels close to the venue) and did frankly a lousy job of hosting the sectional, not to mention losing the first night.

Go Cards

Not sure about the hotel situation...there are plenty in the Amherst area...at least 5 w/in 5 minutes of the school....I certainly hope the people of Plattsburgh adhere to the golden rule. At Amherst, I think the last two years was much better than the year you are talking about.

[fpc85]

For the record, Conn beat Coast Guard.
Based on d3hoops.com "Posting Up" Logic, this makes us a Sweet 16 team.

good stuff!!! +k

[nescac1]

Notes on two Bates and one Middlebury recruit:

http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/340/Commitment-Catchup.php

Bates continues to bring in loads of big guys ... they are becoming very deep up front.  If someone steps up to replace Wholey's offense they could be very tough next year. 

[deputy dog]

I believe Occidental was in this years tournament and won a game? Plattsburgh went to California to participate in the Chapman Tournament. The Cards put up a got fight against Oxy but fell just short losing 69-64. Occidental was still in the top 25 as of last weeks rankings. Any one who has Southern Vermont on their schedule twice a year should not be complaining about who Plattsburgh is playing. Southern Vermont took a kid off an upstate New York JUCO team in the second semester and started him. This kid didn't even get any burn at his school.

I agree that Amherst had a very competitive schedule but compare apples to apples. I will match your Southern Vermont games with SUNY Purchase.

[deputy dog]

Plattsburgh isn't any worse than Amherst (as small towns go); it's just a little colder.

100% false

I just mean in terms of as a destination for out of town visitors.

that is what I thought you meant..I do not think Amherst has luxury accomodations.. my point was that for out of town visitors, Amherst is a far better place to visit with many more things to do

What do you plan on doing other than watching basketball? If you need things to do I am sure Plattsburgh can accomadate you.

[deputy dog]

Well, no they don't but I think they would at least have both Bradeis and Amherst somewhere in the top 10. The two schools are an hour and a half apart! Looking quickly through Plattsburg's schedule, their only NCAA caliber win seemed to be Middlebury while Amherst and Brandeis have a combined 10+ wins against NCAA teams. I hope for the sake of ridiculousness, that its an Amherst-Brandeis final this weekend (which I would bet on anyways) playing 5+ hours away on the Canadian border in front of only their parents while their student bodies listen to a spotty d3cast broadcast.

I think the NCAA may have decided for once to follow their criteria.  Plattsburgh has the only undefeated regional record in the country.  If you look on D-III hoops they are ranked #1 on the SOS measurement.

Their non-conference schedule compares in W-L to the other three teams in the regionals, all played out of conference teams with a 57% win %, and Plattsburgh's was dropped by an unexpected game vs. SUNY Purchase (3-22) when they were upset in a post-break game at Union, otherwise Plattsburgh would have had a higher non-conference win % than the other three teams. 

In conference, the Cards were undefeated & won both the regular season and the conference tournament and were the first team since Potsdam's 60 game winning streak team (86-87) to do that trifecta.  Amherst DID lose in the semis of its conference tournament.

I also know that the New York contingent was pretty unhappy three years ago when three New York teams with a combined record of (76-7) including an undefeated team, had to truck (in a blizzard) to Amherst, which acted like it could care less about their visitors, (no concessions, poor parking, not hotels close to the venue) and did frankly a lousy job of hosting the sectional, not to mention losing the first night.

Go Cards

I am confused why everyone is so dead set against Plattsburgh. I watched the Round of 16 in Canton, New York last year. There is a lot more to do in Plattsburgh than Canton. Believe me I have lived in both areas and Plattsburgh is better. The teams that came up there were Elms, Williams, Brockport and St. Lawrence. I watched the Round of 8 game between St. Lawrence and Brockport and picked up my ticket the night of the game. There were plenty of seats available. If the tourney can be played in Canton, (A LOT MORE REMOTE THAN PLATTSBURGH) It definitely can be played in Plattsburgh.

Bear, Plattsburgh did run in to SUNY - Purchase but Amherst had Southern Vermont on their schedule twice. I have seen Southern Vermont play and they couldn't have beaten Purchase even if Purchase started and played their last five guys off the bench. I am sure that a Southern Vermont rating would be higher than Purchase because of the league they are in. It would not be because they were a better team. Therefore I am a little skeptical about the Rating %'s

[Pat Coleman]

I believe Occidental was in this years tournament and won a game? Plattsburgh went to California to participate in the Chapman Tournament. The Cards put up a got fight against Oxy but fell just short losing 69-64. Occidental was still in the top 25 as of last weeks rankings. Any one who has Southern Vermont on their schedule twice a year should not be complaining about who Plattsburgh is playing. Southern Vermont took a kid off an upstate New York JUCO team in the second semester and started him. This kid didn't even get any burn at his school.

I agree that Amherst had a very competitive schedule but compare apples to apples. I will match your Southern Vermont games with SUNY Purchase.

Oxy did beat a 15-12 team in the first round, yes.

[deputy dog]

I believe Occidental was in this years tournament and won a game? Plattsburgh went to California to participate in the Chapman Tournament. The Cards put up a got fight against Oxy but fell just short losing 69-64. Occidental was still in the top 25 as of last weeks rankings. Any one who has Southern Vermont on their schedule twice a year should not be complaining about who Plattsburgh is playing. Southern Vermont took a kid off an upstate New York JUCO team in the second semester and started him. This kid didn't even get any burn at his school.

I agree that Amherst had a very competitive schedule but compare apples to apples. I will match your Southern Vermont games with SUNY Purchase.

Oxy did beat a 15-12 team in the first round, yes.

That 15-12 team made it in to the Tourney! They had to beat someone!!!!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Not all tournament wins are created equal, is what I'm getting at.

[Jacketfan2011]

I really don't think people are "dead set against Plattsburgh".  I think the New Englanders would prefer to stay at home rather than drive 6 hours to the Canadian boarder.  Logistically it kinda makes sense that  two  teams from Mass, one from NJ and one from upstate NY would meet somewhere in the middle - Mass.  However, Plattsburgh is the #1 seed in the East and that trumps 'deis and Amherst regional rankings.  I think it's that simple.  Arguing about the strength of Plattsburgh's schedule is a no win situation, IMO.  They play SUNYIT, Fredonia, New Paltz etc.  Twice.  Going undefeated is a great acomplishment and harder than most anyone realizes.  I think that is one area where the maturity and experience of Plattsburgh shows.  Their leaders, I am purely guessing here, didn't allow the kids to lose focus.  That is invaluable.  They have had a season for the ages and they have been rewarded.