MBB: American Southwest Conference

[jmnaseum]

I'm with Chief -- everybody loses players, let's talk about the Chocs --

[Ron Boerger]

MC-SID:  What is the link?  Thanks.

I found this link on MC's site today:

http://www.mc.edu/athletics/livestats/xlive.htm

Right now there's a baseball game.  Hopefully that changes come this weekend.  ;-)

[Ron Boerger]

Geez, guys, from the lack of traffic you would never know that a team from the ASC was hosting this weekend's subregional.  MC's put up a page with links for all games, including live stats, photos, boxes, and game stories:

http://www.mc.edu/athletics/NCAAMBSK06.htm

Thanks to MC Sports Information !!

[Ralph Turner]

Ron, the really active posters come the West (HPU, HSU, McM, MHB and SRSU).  IMHO, Aerie Head from Ozarks and ETBUalum are the main posters from the East.

We get some MC action occasionally, altho' Millie is a unanimous All-ASC Mom!

[millie]

Thanks ralph...you are to kind...i wish there we other east posters....sometimes i need some help.

[t_money]

The reason there is no traffic is because the regular season is over.  All the West posters want to talk about post season awards because that is simply all they have left to talk about. 

I enjoy reading Ralph's comments but he knows that McMurry and the rest of the West is always playing for second.

MC rules the ASC!!!!!

[Ralph Turner]

The reason there is no traffic is because the regular season is over.  All the West posters want to talk about post season awards because that is simply all they have left to talk about. 

t money, we haven't had 20% of the posts coming from East Division fans, all season long!  We rarely get news paper hyperlinks or uplinks for ball games.  Aerie Head,  etbualum and millie have admirably carried the load!

I enjoy reading Ralph's comments but he knows that McMurry and the rest of the West is always playing for second. 

Except in Football!

MC rules the ASC!!!!!

But has never made it to the Elite 8 and has only the 3rd best percentage in Post-season NCAA Play!

Good friend, we teams on the West beat ourselves up in division and get then whittled down in the Tourney.  We West teams have never received a Pool C bid.  We are tired of MC "wasting" all of those opportunities in post-season play.   McMurry has one "8" and one "16";  Sul Ross has a "16" nothing less.

I will make a bold prediction.  If MissColl plays the outside wing game, the shoot-the-3's-all-night style, and keep Tyler Winford on the bench for more than 15 minutes, MC is doomed when they play those strong Great Lakes region teams.

That seems to be the recurring theme.  They can play the fast style, athletic style, whatever style we can call it style all that they want in the ASC.  The road always seems to end the first time they play a Great Lakes Region team, because the Great Lakes teams know that they can beat MissColl inside.  Calvin in 2005; a one-and-done at Maryville TN in 2003,  a bye-home one-and-done to Lewis and Clark in 2002, a strong CNU in 2000, and John Carroll in 1999.  McMurry beat them with their big men in 2001 and 2000 in the ASC, just like Sully did in 2004 (Justin Steward, Rockland Owens etc.)

I fully expect Miss Coll to defeat Maryville MO by 14-20 points even after the Chocs have emptied the bench.  I expect the Chocs to pull to at least a maximum 22-point lead in the game against Maryville MO.

If Miss College is really a Top 10 team, then they should win the 2nd game (at home) by no less than double-digits, either Maryville TN or Trinity.

I want a Final Four this year.  This is the most favorable of a scenario with as strong a team as I can remember.

I am ready for McMurry to have to look at a Final Four banner the next time we visit the Golden Dome. 8)

Go Chocs!

[t_money]

Ralph,

Your points are well taken.  I agree that MC has not made a deep run into the tourney other than a couple of 16's.  I do think that the West is probably the tougher of the two divisions, but neither of the top two (HPU and McM) could play within double digits of the Chocs.  The only loss the Chocs had this year was @ UMHB when we shot about 30% for the game.

If the West is so tough I would have imagined that one of the top two teams could have at leat challenged the Chocs.  They each had two shots at the Chocs just like each team in the East and faired no better.  I mean MC destroyed HPU in the ASC title game in Brownwood with a NCAA berth on the line.

The bottom line is that in order to make a run at the Final Four you must first qualify for the tourney.  No one in the ASC does that more consistently than MC.

I don't believe that MC will struggle with either of the first two games.  However, the rest of the season depends on where we go for the sectionals.  As much as I think MC deserves to host I simply don't see that happening.

Ralph, you know more about the teams around the country than I do.  How do you think the Chocs will fair in this bracket and why?

[Ralph Turner]

t money, I guess that Pat Coleman echoes my sentiments most effectively.

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/06/preview.htm

I would love to see MissColl host a Sectional. I would love for the Golden Dome to be rocking!  8)

A sectional containing RMC, Witt and UW-La Crosse would be a great one.  Those schools have basketball traditions that are even more impressive than MC's.

I think that MC has to play tough inside, a very physical game, more midwestern style than anything to which we are acquainted in the South.

If we (MC) get the sectional, I give us an even chance.  If we travel, then the home team will have the advantage.

[carlweathers]

If Miss College is really a Top 10 team, then they should win the 2nd game (at home) by no less than double-digits, either Maryville TN or Trinity.

Go Chocs!

Ridiculous comment.  This is the NCAA tournament.  It isn't that simple.  All of the teams are good (perhaps a few New England teams excluded from that).  Last year Trinity was the second best team in the country behind Stevens Point and had a six point home win vs. UT-Dallas in the first round and a very tough 12 point win at home in the second round. 

[Aerie Head]

Geez, guys, from the lack of traffic you would never know that a team from the ASC was hosting this weekend's subregional. 

I'm still following along -- just don't know that much to be making predictions, etc. 

I'd like to see MC in the Final Four too.

[SulrossBBall]

I would love to see Mississippi College meet up with Lawerence and just beat the living crap out of them haha. Get some revenge on those boys for Sul Ross!

[Ralph Turner]

If Miss College is really a Top 10 team, then they should win the 2nd game (at home) by no less than double-digits, either Maryville TN or Trinity.

Go Chocs!

Ridiculous comment.  This is the NCAA tournament.  It isn't that simple.  All of the teams are good (perhaps a few New England teams excluded from that).  Last year Trinity was the second best team in the country behind Stevens Point and had a six point home win vs. UT-Dallas in the first round and a very tough 12 point win at home in the second round. 

Good evening Carl,

I went back to the 2005 season Final Top 10.

We had the usual bracket seedings in which the Great Lakes and Midwest Regions are paired by "geographic proximity" and not traditional D1 style seedings.  Here are the outcomes in the second round games by the final Top 10 ranked teams.

1) UWSP beat Lawrence by 24
2) Calvin beat Aurora by 12
3) Trinity beat Pomona-Pitzer by 12
4) Rochester beat Union by 18
5) Albion (MIAA and Great Lakes) beat #8 Wooster (NCAC and Great Lakes) by 1.
6) Amherst beat Springfield by 13
7) Hanover (HCAC and Midwest) beat #10 IWU (CCIW and Midwest) by 5.
8 ) Wooster lost to #5 Albion by 1.
9) Wittenburg (NCAC and Great Lakes) lost to #12 John Carroll (OAC and Great Lakes) in OT.
10) IWU lost to #7 Hanover.

12) John Carroll lost at Albion in the Sweet 16 by 1.

Inside the Great Lakes/Midwest Region, there is so much parity that you cannot make such a prediciton (kinda like the South Region in football  ).

As for the rest of D3, the top seeds are commonly that much better.

[Ralph Turner]

Travel safely!

[knightmoves]

Someone tell me, is MC a ton better team this year than in 2005? The reason I ask is that they were definitely the 4th best team in our sectional last year. They were not used to the tough, physical style of defense needed to get to the Final Four.