MBB: American Southwest Conference

[Bearkat00]

Thanks Chris - it's hard not be biased as this is an unbelieveable win here at LETU.  I think every department is talking about it this morning, but with that being said, as a MC fan, that shows you where your program is.  I would say that this is bigger than either ETBU win we've had this year.

I have to say that you guys have terrific young men who showed a lot of respect to our team.  MC could've took this loss as the end of the world, but after the game, your men seemed to realize that this wasn't the end of the world and were not hanging their heads by any means.  In the long run, this may be something that needed to happen for the simple fact that there is no more pressure on them to really keep the winning streak alive. 

Both teams played really hard basketball.  MC didn't play horrible and LETU didn't play unbelieveable.  I'd like to think that it was two good basketball teams going at it.  MC ran a great final play, a double screen at the top of the key with about ten seconds left.  I think he just ran it to early.  Coleman was able to get his hand on the ball as Collins was going up.  The thing that I saw this morning was that it was a hustle play for LETU.  It look like Hudson had a chance to grab the rebound first from Bradley's full court shot, but Smith stepped in front of him and attempted a finger roll from 5 feet out.  As Rockmore came to tip it in, Hudson had a hand in his face.  Either way, both teams played great. 

[choctawmaniac]

Pat Coleman is very serious about honoring copyright laws.  One should not "cut and paste" another news story, but rather give the hyperlink so all can read the original story.  I am using my capabilities as a moderator on the baseball boards to modify this post.

Thanks for the "heads-up" on what is happening in Pineville.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070202/NEWS01/702020325

s/ Ralph Turner




I knew LC has problems with its administration telling half-truths and being secretive, but now there is the following news from Pineville:


Six Lady Cats basketball players quit LC program
By Randy Benson and Bob Tompkins
rbenson@thetowntalk.com, btompkins@thetowntalk.com
(318) 487-6431, (318) 487-6349

Six players, including starters Carol Elder and Ashley Peairs, have quit the Louisiana College women's basketball team.

Thirteen players walked off the court -- leaving first-year coach Robin Potera-Haskins with four players -- during practice earlier this week to meet with athletic director Tim Whitman. Seven players subsequently returned to the team.

"They didn't do it to hurt the basketball program," said Lynn Peairs of Pride, father of Ashley Peairs. "They came into a program where basketball was secondary and helping the girls become well-rounded, moral, Christian girls was more important. I think they knew after a week or so (after the start of practice) that that program is no longer there."
Louisiana College played its first game without the six players Thursday night, losing 77-51 to East Texas Baptist University in Marshall, Texas.

Whitman confirmed Thursday that he met with a group of players.

"There were discussions," Whitman said. "We had six kids decide not to play the rest of the games."

Whitman declined to divulge the names of the players who left the team, saying he did not have a list with him and did not want to pass out incorrect information.

"Anytime we have more than one quit, we're going to have a meeting to talk it out," Whitman said.

Players on the roster but not in uniform on Thursday included Elder, a senior co-captain who had started 16 games this season, and Peairs, a sophomore who had started 15 games, along with Lindsay LaBowe, Paige Singleton and Kayla Shirley. The identity of the sixth player could not be confirmed Thursday night.

{edited to preserve copyright/pc}

[kid nice]

Congrats to LETU. I still can't believe it. I guess there goes our shot at hosting a sectional. we will just have to do it the hard way. How much time was left when the full court shot happened?  sounds like a lot of things happened after that. 

[gccfan]

Kid, there were 7 seconds left because when Bradley threw the ball I glanced at the clock immediately and was wondering what he was doing.

[gccfan]

Go to the LeTourneau athletics site and you can download and watch the final minute of the game if you Media Player

http://www.letu.edu/_Student-Life/athletics

[Ralph Turner]

Go to the LeTourneau athletics site and you can download and watch the final minute of the game if you Media Player

http://www.letu.edu/_Student-Life/athletics

That is a great clip!!!

Thanks for sharing it!

(+1 Karma)

[golden_dome]

Go to the LeTourneau athletics site and you can download and watch the final minute of the game if you Media Player
http://www.letu.edu/_Student-Life/athletics

Thanks for the clip, that is a once in a lifetime ending to a game. After looking at that maybe it just wasn't in the cards for MC to win, unbelievable. Has anyone sent that to ESPN? I would think that could be a potential Play of the Week.

[Bill McCabe]

Great clip.  It was wild and fun to watch.  I've never seen an ending like that.

[Ralph Turner]

McMurry went 70-7 in the four seasons from 1998-99 thru 2000-01.

1998-99--17-3 with losses to MissColl Schreiner, Austin College in the semis.
1999-2000--17-0
2000-2001--20-1 with a loss to MissColl in the regular season.
2001-2002--16-3 with losses to CUA, TLU and Miss Coll in the Tourney.

In the last 4 years, 

2003-2004--10-4 (The interdivisional games did not count towards the division championship.  MC went 5-3 versus the West in the interdivisional games,and 1-1 in the tourney.  Total ASC record 16-8.)
2004-2005--21-4 with losses to SRS, McM, ETBU,and UT-D in the Finals
2005-2006--24-1 with a loss to UMHB in the season.
2006-2007--15-1 to date.

That makes MissColl 76-14 over the last 4 yrs vs. all ASC opponents.

[balls a dunkin]

McMurry went 70-7 in the four seasons from 1998-99 thru 2000-01.

1998-99--17-3 with losses to MissColl Schreiner, Austin College in the semis.
1999-2000--17-0
2000-2001--20-1 with a loss to MissColl in the regular season.
2001-2002--16-3 with losses to CUA, TLU and Miss Coll in the Tourney.

In the last 4 years, 

2003-2004--10-4 (The interdivisional games did not count towards the division championship.  MC went 5-3 versus the West in the interdivisional games,and 1-1 in the tourney.  Total ASC record 16-8.)
2004-2005--21-4 with losses to SRS, McM, ETBU,and UT-D in the Finals
2005-2006--24-1 with a loss to UMHB in the season.
2006-2007--15-1 to date.

That makes MissColl 76-14 over the last 4 yrs vs. all ASC opponents.

WHY?  That is 30 sec of my life i will never get back.  thanks ralph

[Ralph Turner]

McMurry went 70-7 in the four seasons from 1998-99 thru 2000-01.

1998-99--17-3 with losses to MissColl Schreiner, Austin College in the semis.
1999-2000--17-0
2000-2001--20-1 with a loss to MissColl in the regular season.
2001-2002--16-3 with losses to CUA, TLU and Miss Coll in the Tourney.

In the last 4 years, 

2003-2004--10-4 (The interdivisional games did not count towards the division championship.  MC went 5-3 versus the West in the interdivisional games,and 1-1 in the tourney.  Total ASC record 16-8.)
2004-2005--21-4 with losses to SRS, McM, ETBU,and UT-D in the Finals
2005-2006--24-1 with a loss to UMHB in the season.
2006-2007--15-1 to date.

That makes MissColl 76-14 over the last 4 yrs vs. all ASC opponents.

WHY?  That is 30 sec of my life i will never get back.  thanks ralph

Balls, I was trying to figure out how good this run by the Chocs really is.  If this continues next season, then we have seen a truly remarkable "mini-dynasty". 

[golden_dome]

Balls, I was trying to figure out how good this run by the Chocs really is.  If this continues next season, then we have seen a truly remarkable "mini-dynasty". 

Ralph,
   The run MC is on now extends much longer than three years though the last three have been exceptional. Starting in 1998, I would say we are on a ten year run including this season which would definitely qualify as a dynasty.

Five ASC Championships (1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2006)
   McMurry has two (2000, 2001), UTD has one (2005) and Sul Ross State has one (2004).

Eight NCAA tournament appearances in nine years (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006)
   McMurry has two appearances (2000, 2001), UTD one (2005) and SRSU has one (2004).

Since the ASC tourney started in 1999, MC has made every championship game (eight total).
   McMurry has made four (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003). SRSU, UTD, Austin and HPU all have one.


The last four years under Coach Lofton MC won two ASC titles, but we also won three in the five years before that under Coach Jones. During McMurry's four year run they won two ASC titles with MC also winning two.

Those numbers reinforce how dominant MC has been the last nine years and exactly how great an accomplishment it has been. To me the most impressive accomplishment is the eight straight championship game appearances, especially since moving to the eight team format the last two years.

To sustain that level of play for that long is remarkable and the coaches and players who have contributed should be commended. Hopefully the tenth season will be the best.

[Ralph Turner]

Balls, I was trying to figure out how good this run by the Chocs really is.  If this continues next season, then we have seen a truly remarkable "mini-dynasty". 

Ralph,
   The run MC is on now extends much longer than three years though the last three have been exceptional. Starting in 1998, I would say we are on a ten year run including this season which would definitely qualify as a dynasty.

Five ASC Championships (1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2006)
   McMurry has two (2000, 2001), UTD has one (2005) and Sul Ross State has one (2004).

Eight NCAA tournament appearances in nine years (1998, 1999, 2000*, 2001*, 2002, 2003, 2005*, 2006)
   McMurry has two appearances (2000, 2001), UTD one (2005) and SRSU has one (2004).

Since the ASC tourney started in 1999, MC has made every championship game (eight total).
   McMurry has made four (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003). SRSU (2004), UTD (2005), Austin (1999) and HPU (2006) all have one.


The last four years under Coach Lofton MC won two ASC titles, but we also won three in the five years before that under Coach Jones. During McMurry's four year run they won two ASC titles with MC also winning two.

Those numbers reinforce how dominant MC has been the last nine years and exactly how great an accomplishment it has been. To me the most impressive accomplishment is the eight straight championship game appearances, especially since moving to the eight team format the last two years.

To sustain that level of play for that long is remarkable and the coaches and players who have contributed should be commended. Hopefully the tenth season will be the best.

Chris, do you see what else is unusual about that run of playoff appearances?  The only 3 Pool C bids (*) that the ASC has received have gone to Miss College.  We can see if we get a Pool C bid this year.

Do you what else is unusual about the NCAA Playoffs?    Austin College in 1999,  is the only team from the ASC-East (Women) to have gone to the playoffs in that period of time.

I really wish that we could safely split into 2 separate conferences.

[golden_dome]

Chris, do you see what else is unusual about that run of playoff appearances?  The only 3 Pool C bids (*) that the ASC has received have gone to Miss College.  We can see if we get a Pool C bid this year.

I am surprised that no other team has had a good enough record to earn a pool C. I can't remember how long the NCAA has been using the QOWI but I think it covers this time frame. In 2001 and 2004 MC was #1 or #2 in the south region rankings entering the tournament and I think our regional record was very good in 1999. I thought McMurry had a shot in 2002. The Choctaws have done a good job of winning enough in the regular season to allow for a loss in the ASC tourney.

Do you what else is unusual about the NCAA Playoffs?    Austin College in 1999,  is the only team from the ASC-East (Women) to have gone to the playoffs in that period of time.

I really wish that we could safely split into 2 separate conferences.

UTD went to the playoffs with their ASC championship in 2005. MC and UTD have gone from the East and McMurry and Sul Ross State have gone from the West. Since going to the eight-team ASC tourney format both champions have come from the East, MC last year playing at Howard Payne and UTD the year before beating us at home.

I agree about the potential to split the conference. I think it would be a good thing only because it would probably mean some NAIA schools moving to DIII which would give us a bigger pool of teams.

One of our big problems in the NCAA tournament and football playoffs is the scarcity of teams down here compared to other parts of the country. In a perfect scenario, 3-4 NAIA schools would move to DIII so we could split the league giving us three major conferences in the deep south to go along with the SCAC. It could also create some interesting rivalries with schools geographically closer to one another.

[Ralph Turner]

My bad!!!!

ASC Women!  See correction above!

The head coach of that 1999 Austin College Women's Head Coach was current LaCollege Head Coach Robin Potera-Haskins.