MBB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Friends, I made my best case for the ASC and our hosting a Sectional on the 2007 Women's Tourney board and why I thought the decisions were bad!

Good luck, Choctaws and Lady Jackets!

Go ASC!

[golden_dome]

Friends, I made my best case for the ASC and our hosting a Sectional on the 2007 Women's Tourney board and why I thought the decisions were bad!

Good luck, Choctaws and Lady Jackets!

Go ASC!

Ralph,
   Good post. If the ASC did not get a sectional this year, then I seriously doubt we will ever get one which is frustrating. Even though it is not spelled out in the handbook, I had hoped that competitive balance would be considered a little and the NCAA might take the opportunity to expand DIII in this part of the country.

In HPU's case, the attendance  factor would help offset the cost of flying three teams into Brownwood giving the NCAA an opportunity to throw the ASC a bone without losing too much money. Not to mention they have had a tremendous season.

With the Choctaws, it is now two years in a row as the top-ranked South Region team which apparently counts for very little. No disrespect intended to Virginia Wesleyan, they have a great program and I was as excited as anyone to see a South region team win it all last year, but it would have been nice for our campus to experience what they did last year. The atmosphere in the Dome was great last weekend, http://www.gochoctaws.com/Sports/mbball/2007/MCvsMaryPhotos.asp, and we could potentially sell it out (3,500) if we ever had a sectional.

Our game with the Marlins should be a great one Friday night. It's not like they need any help, they are the defending national champions for a reason and the flight makes it that much harder. But I am sure our players will be motivated to prove something with few people giving them much of a chance.

[Bearkat00]

What a frustrating thing to see for the ASC.  Good luck this week to both HPU and MC.  It's time to get over the fact that NCAA put it to you guys hard core and show them what we are made of. 

Has a conference ever produced both a men's and woman's national champion on Bball?

[Ralph Turner]

The best finish for the men is the 2000 McMurry team that made it ot the Elite 8 (27-2).

The best finish for the women is the 2006 HSU team (4th place) at 24-7.

[Pat Coleman]

The atmosphere in the Dome was great last weekend, http://www.gochoctaws.com/Sports/mbball/2007/MCvsMaryPhotos.asp, and we could potentially sell it out (3,500) if we ever had a sectional.

Potential sellouts aren't going to help. Even the real sellout at Howard Payne might not help this year, though I'd bet it gets discussed if the opportunity arises in the future.

[Bearkat00]

The best finish for the men is the 2000 McMurry team that made it ot the Elite 8 (27-2).

The best finish for the women is the 2006 HSU team (4th place) at 24-7.

What about from other confereces in the nation?

[diehardfan]

Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.

The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.

While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!

If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks!

[chocsrock34]

I find it interesting that MC who deserves the hosting bid ove VWC doesn't get it because less teams have to travel this way. I do understand that unlike D1 schools D3 puts more emphasis on the student part of student-athlete, but for at most one week a year when the teams are playing for their school and doing a mighty good job at it, the NCAA should worry more about who deserves what rather than who can go where.

[Ralph Turner]

I find it interesting that MC who deserves the hosting bid ove VWC doesn't get it because less teams have to travel this way. I do understand that unlike D1 schools D3 puts more emphasis on the student part of student-athlete, but for at most one week a year when the teams are playing for their school and doing a mighty good job at it, the NCAA should worry more about who deserves what rather than who can go where.

Chocsrock34, it is still about money.

[chocsrock34]

Somebody has to spend something in order to even have the tournament. MC has earned the hosting bid two straight seasons but we had to go on the road. The NCAA could use money made off tickets if the bigger arenas hosted as well. The money is not what makes the decisions.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Au Contraire - the money DOES make the decisions.  Unfortunately, they apparently see ONLY expenses, not potential revenues.  For the men's sectionals, they twice selected the SMALLEST arena (Wa Wes and SJF); I won't even bring up Luther vs. HPU!

[justafan02]

How about this...  I think that VWC and MC shouldn't have to meet in the round of 16 at all.  The #3 and #4 ranked teams meeting in the round of 16 when Lincoln (not ranked) and Guilford #19 (second fiddle to VWC) get each other.  How about that garbage?

I see the arguments about MC not getting to host and agree with all of you that it is unfair.  As a VWC fan, Im not gonna lie, I am glad we get you guys at home.  It is going to be a battle.  For those thinking that people don't give MC a chance..you are crazy.  We know all about MC and how crazy good you guys are.....

[David Collinge]

How about this...  I think that VWC and MC shouldn't have to meet in the round of 16 at all.  The #3 and #4 ranked teams meeting in the round of 16 when Lincoln (not ranked) and Guilford #19 (second fiddle to VWC) get each other.  How about that garbage?

Long-time fans of both conferences no doubt recall the Calvin Sectional in the 2000 tournament.  The top 4 teams in the D3Hoops.com poll, all given first-round byes, were bracketed to meet in the same sectional, and would have if Maryville (TN) hadn't upset #2 Hampden-Sydney in the second round.  Still, that sectional featured #1 Calvin beating #3 Wooster and #4 McMurry en route to the 2000 title.

[kid nice]

On the subject of MC ever hosting a sectional i'm kind of like the PC guy in the commercial, I'm coming to a sad realization. I agree with the pairings of the sectional and am just convinced that the people on the d3 committee are idiots or they just don't care and do very little research into what could happen down the line with what pairings.

[gccfan]

The only way I ever see it happening is if two ASC schools or one ASC school and a Trinity or Southwestern would both advance to the sectional.  I know it was said on the women's board, but if McMurry had managed to get out of their Far West regional then HPU would have likely gotten to host.  We just happen to be stuck on the wrong end of a numbers game