MBB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

... there are few quality teams willing to travel to play teams like MC, UMHB or McMurry without a return trip

or even travel to quality D3 opponents in the country.

Chris, I guess that McMurry would use the flexibility that an 18-game schedule would give.  The programs that have committed to that level of bsaketball would definitely benefit, especially McMurry Men and Women.

I agree that UMHB did a great job of getting VWC down here.  Getting Ripon was also a good job of getting a snowbird down here, too.

I want to see that level of co-operation around the conference.  I think that HPU and SRSU women co-operated on the Fisk game.  Miss Coll and LaCollege could set up a great classic.  ETBU and LeTU?

I think that McMurry wants to use travel as an educational feature.  I know Coach Holmes was happy for his players to visit the Mall in Washington DC last year.  Getting to see the Washington and Lincoln Memorials etc., was a great experience for those guys!  The McMurry women saw the Civil War Battlefield at Guilford (NC) Court House.

I see the vulnerable programs (whether I am right, I don't know) to dropping to the 18 would be TLU, Schreiner, SRSU, Louisiana College and maybe Ozarks, ETBU LeTU.

Going to neutral site tourneys on Friday/Saturday among inter-divisional opponents might save one night on the road as 19th, 20th and 21st and even 22nd games.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Not many posts in awhile, but if anyone has seen the front page of D3hoops.com, then there should be plenty of posts soon.

My first reaction, I am glad that at least the ASC has decided to stand up as a conference and say to the NCAA that they are tired of being snubbed.

Whether it will happen... not sure!

Look forward to hearing everyone else's thoughts!

[sac]

Teams were told the mistake was made because the committee did not realize Mary Hardin-Baylor and Mississippi College were members of the same conference.

Unbelieveable,  no ............ UNBELIEVABLE!

Please tell me those commettee members resigned in embarassment.


Good for the ASC, probably won't make a difference but its nice that they're expressing their opinion.   They have good points, but sending 3 teams to Texas or Mississippi will always be a hard thing to do.

[Pat Coleman]

Shocking, huh?

[diehardfan]

 

Teams were told the mistake was made because the committee did not realize Mary Hardin-Baylor and Mississippi College were members of the same conference.

Unbelieveable,  no ............ UNBELIEVABLE!

Maybe someone should tell them about Lake Michigan... apparently they haven't heard the scoop about the fact that it exists either.

Chris, Ralph, etc.... is there an appropriate venue for fans of D3 express their support of this concept and the ASC? At the time I really couldn't believe that the NCAA would do something so obviously ridiculous and unethical, and kept expecting Mississippi College to get the hosting nod despite what everyone was telling me. I am extremely glad that they ASC leaders are calling the NCAA out on their lack of anything resembling fairness, and hope that they make major headway!

[CUAfan]

Good for the ASC, probably won't make a difference but its nice that they're expressing their opinion.   They have good points, but sending 3 teams to Texas or Mississippi will always be a hard thing to do.

Hard or not, if it's the equitable thing to do, then they should do it anyway. MC didn't put in the work to finish 27-2 or whatever just so they could travel out East. They'd earned the right to host and were snubbed thanks to the almighty $$$.

[Josh Bowerman]

While I certainly agree with the sentiment and rationale behind the ASC's letter, I must say that I think it comes one sports season too late. 

The conference had the same problem in football this season with UMHB/HSU forced to play one another in the first round while Millsaps (who could and should have played at UMHB based on the AA's own stated rules) was shipped north.

I really hope it makes some sort of difference--the situation has really been unequitable for teams in the south and on the West Coast for some time now.

[Pat Coleman]

It's my understanding that the basketball coaches in the ASC pushed for this. I have no idea if any football coaches did the same, and in fact, we can't necessarily assume they did not. We just didn't get a copy of it if they did.

[golden_dome]

I am proud to see the ASC try and make this a more public debate and at least call the NCAA to task on the issue. This certainly goes well beyond our conference as I am sure OxyBob could attest. It is hard to believe that travel expense is still such a huge factor in deciding NCAA championships. I know the MC men and HPU women are the most recent instances, but I would have to agree with Josh that the first round football matchup of #5 UMHB and #6 Hardin-Simmons was probably more egregious.

With all of the NCAA commercials emphasizing true student-athletes, perhaps they will realize that championship competition is just as important to DIII athletes as it is to DI.

Chris, Ralph, etc.... is there an appropriate venue for fans of D3 express their support of this concept and the ASC? At the time I really couldn't believe that the NCAA would do something so obviously ridiculous and unethical, and kept expecting Mississippi College to get the hosting nod despite what everyone was telling me. I am extremely glad that they ASC leaders are calling the NCAA out on their lack of anything resembling fairness, and hope that they make major headway!

I don't know of one. I would like to think the NCAA would give this serious consideration but would have to agree with other posters that it is doubtful. Obviously my affiliation with MC puts me closer to that particular situation, but it's not like we are the only school this affects. Championships based on seeding rather than dollars would only add more legitimacy to them and help grow DIII athletics in regions of the country that have been neglected.

[kid nice]

I don't think it will happen.  The $$$ is to strong.  Question: do states such as Wisconsin and Ohio have juco and division II schools?  It just seems this part of the country has a lot of division III schools.  Is it hurting the southern schools because we have more dII schools and jucos or does that part of the country just have a lot more schools in general?

[Gray Fox]

Teams were told the mistake was made because the committee did not realize Mary Hardin-Baylor and Mississippi College were members of the same conference.

Unbelieveable,  no ............ UNBELIEVABLE!

Please tell me those commettee members resigned in embarassment.


Good for the ASC, probably won't make a difference but its nice that they're expressing their opinion.   They have good points, but sending 3 teams to Texas or Mississippi will always be a hard thing to do.

I think that we should petition to have the d3hoops Hall of Famers set up the brackets.

They know way more than the NCAA.

[carlweathers]

The new coach at Schreiner will be Trinity assistant Drew Miller.  Congrats to Drew. 

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks, Carl! 

[hopefan]

Ralph  -  time to get on your favorite conference's schools  -  not a single one has posted their 2007-08  schedule yet!!!      Almost makes me wonder if they are generating the ASC conference schedule late....

[Ralph Turner]

HSU Coach Dylan Howard takes some Houston area high school players to Germany.