MBB: American Southwest Conference

[pistol pete 22]

What is the status of Van Wright for the tournament? The students at LeT have been very involved this year (with the men's team, not so much the women's). Looks like they only like them when they are winning. Im sure it would be a major disappointment if Van Wright cant play and they lose to UMHB in the first round.

[pistol pete 22]

Coach
Terry Butterfield - UTD- Not very talented but run their stuff to perfection
(Sidenote: Bob Davis - LETU- does not deserve this award. He underachieved last year and did not make the playoffs and this year his team is stacked. He should win every game by 20 with the likes of Evers, Vanwright, Smith, and Rockmore. I am pretty sure if any other team in the conference had Vanwright they would be dominating too.) 

I definitley see your arguement, but in his defense, I don't think you are giving enough credit to how good our league is to even consider anyone winning games by 20 points.  If that were the arguement every year, MC wouldn't even get any consideration.  Please also consider that Coach Davis RECRUITED these studs and convienced them to come to the most expensive school in the conference. 

Last year, LETU did underachieve, but we also lost our starting PG - which we see can be a very important aspect of the game (look at McM)

So with that being saidm while I see your argument, let's not just rule him out yet :-) 

Most expensive school in the conference for a regular student. Ive heard first hand from one of your athletes how much they pay a semester because of all the made up leadership scholarships. Not too hard to convince people to play for that amount of money. I also imagine that the assistant put in most of the miles watching kids play and finding players. Is the pg you are mentioning, the same pg that is out this year? Kinda ruins you point that he is important.
One last thing for Coach Davis,  when healthy you have one of the best teams in the conference. Nobody can match up against you. Yet it never fails, EVERY GAME you adjust your roster to the other teams. Make them match your lineup, because theres nobody that can. I wonder how many starting lineups he went throught this year.

Josh Davis should not be Defensive MVP.

With all that said.........great year for LeT

[jmnaseum]

I think Sul Ross was the only team in the conference (East or West) to go winless on the road!

Too bad the conference tournament is not in Alpine.

[pedh34]

What is the status of Van Wright for the tournament? The students at LeT have been very involved this year (with the men's team, not so much the women's). Looks like they only like them when they are winning. Im sure it would be a major disappointment if Van Wright cant play and they lose to UMHB in the first round.

Pistol Pete 22, it would be a major disappointment if they lose to UMHB with or without Dale Vanwright. I can assure you that we do not have leadership scholarships like some of the other universities in our conference.

[TheBuzz]

Coach
Terry Butterfield - UTD- Not very talented but run their stuff to perfection
(Sidenote: Bob Davis - LETU- does not deserve this award. He underachieved last year and did not make the playoffs and this year his team is stacked. He should win every game by 20 with the likes of Evers, Vanwright, Smith, and Rockmore. I am pretty sure if any other team in the conference had Vanwright they would be dominating too.) 

I definitley see your arguement, but in his defense, I don't think you are giving enough credit to how good our league is to even consider anyone winning games by 20 points.  If that were the arguement every year, MC wouldn't even get any consideration.  Please also consider that Coach Davis RECRUITED these studs and convienced them to come to the most expensive school in the conference. 

Last year, LETU did underachieve, but we also lost our starting PG - which we see can be a very important aspect of the game (look at McM)

So with that being saidm while I see your argument, let's not just rule him out yet :-) 

Most expensive school in the conference for a regular student. Ive heard first hand from one of your athletes how much they pay a semester because of all the made up leadership scholarships. Not too hard to convince people to play for that amount of money. I also imagine that the assistant put in most of the miles watching kids play and finding players. Is the pg you are mentioning, the same pg that is out this year? Kinda ruins you point that he is important.
One last thing for Coach Davis,  when healthy you have one of the best teams in the conference. Nobody can match up against you. Yet it never fails, EVERY GAME you adjust your roster to the other teams. Make them match your lineup, because theres nobody that can. I wonder how many starting lineups he went throught this year.

Josh Davis should not be Defensive MVP.

With all that said.........great year for LeT

The reason that Coach Davis changed the starting lineup so many times was a product of his rules regarding class attendance/punctuality.  He said there was a flaw in one of his rules that would be reevaluated at the end of the season.  Basically, some players arrived later than others due to varying class schedules.  That was the cause of some of the lineup changes.

Any reason to back up your claim that Josh Davis should not be Defensive MVP?

[pistol pete 22]

He changed his line up every game. The players werent gettin in trouble in class on friday when they were traveling on the road. He started 10 different players, no player started every game. So that proves that theory wrong. I even noticed that #35 who did not get many minutes started a game late in the year.

Davis isnt even the best defender on the team. He may have had 1 good game an shut down Josh Johnson. Davis is a solid role player. One of the least athletic starting guards in the East.

[Ralph Turner]

The regional rankings are out for the last public time.

We will probably have two very good teams that might qualify for bids, and we might have a division that is shut out of bids for the playoffs, just barely.

We have CTX announcing adding track and field and ETBU adding tennis (both mens' and women's I assume).

Let's look at an option to increase the number of AQ's that we get.

To be a conference to earn the AQ, you must have seven full members (or at least 4 core members and three affiliates.) 



The ASC-West could split off the ASC (go into Pool B for two years) and then 2 years later have these AQ sports.

VB
Football (accepting ETBU, LaColl and MissColl as affiliates)
M/W Soccer
M/W Basketball
M/W Tennis
Baseball
Softball
M/W Golf (accepting the ASC-East teams in both sports as affiliates; currently LeTU, MC, UTD and UTT for the men; LeTU UTT and UTD for the women.)

The ASC-West would have the required four schools to sponsor a conference championship in M/W T&F (CTX, HSU, McM, SRSU and TLU-women).  UT-Tyler and MissColl could affiliate for both genders.

The ASC-West also has 4 schools sponsoring  Men's XC (CTX, McM, SRSU and Schreiner) and 5 in women's Cross Country (CTX, HSU, McM, Schreiner and SRSU).   The West schools could affiliate for a combined championship with the East if they wished under an affiliation agreement.



Where does that leave the ASC-East?  I understand that a conference needs to sponsor five men's and five women's sports.

The East has the full 7 schools to earn the AQ for these sports.

M/W Soccer
M/W Basketball
M/W Tennis (now that ETBU has added both M/W tennis)
Baseball
Softball.

The ASC-East has these core members in Cross Country to sponsor the sports.

MXC -- (5) ETBU, MissColl , UOz, UTD, UTT
WXC -- (6) ETBU, LaColl, MissColl, UOz, UTD, UTT.

The West schools could affiliate with the East "conference" for the championship.

What is left that we haven't covered?  LaColl and UOz need to add volleyball for the ASC-East to have the AQ!

The result--

We gain AQ bids in Volleyball, M/W Soccer, M/W Basketball, M/W Tennis, Softball and Baseball!


You win the East.  Your first playoff game may be the West, but it is in the NCAA's and not the ASC tourney finals.

That is 9 more bids to the NCAA's after the two provisional years needed by the new conference.  Long-term crossover contracts between the two conferences could be signed to assure games.  Our complaints about weak schools on the schedules would be mitigated by the fact that we had doubled our bids in this part of the country.


The weakness in this strategy is this.

Texas Wesleyan spent an exploratory year moving up from D-II about 2001.  TWU moved right on thru to the NAIA and Red River AC.

UDallas, a charter member left the ASC in 2001.

Another Charter member, Austin College left us in 2006.

Those schools are "east".

This strategy has been on the books for nearly a decade.  It has suffered three setbacks.  It makes sense.  Nevertheless, a team leaving the conference and dropping below the threshold of 7 teams and this strategy backfires.

I will post this on the women's basketball, the football and the baseball boards.

[Pat Coleman]

McMurry coach Ron Holmes is on Hoopsville tonight. Show runs from 5-7 CT and he's in the first half hour, so tune in soon!

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/tunein.php

[#1ascfanman]

Well, I picked all the first round games correctly but missed on all the others.  Sounds like it was a good tournament and congrats to UTDallas.  I hope they represent us well in the National Tournament.

[larry_u]

Can someone post your NCAA team's profiles in here:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0

[Ralph Turner]

The answer as to why UTD is not hosting the Thursday game?

UTD rented out the facility this weekend.

[McM Blue Devil]

Well, the ASC All Conference Selections are out.  While I could make a comment on several things, I want to comment on the ASC West Division Coach of the Year.  Please know that I mean no disrespect to Coach DeWeese, I am only stating my opinion. 

UMHB returned many players from last year's team that went to to the NCAA.  They were picked overwhelmingly to win the West Division.  Meanwhile, McMurry finished 12-13 and only returned 2 players that actually had meaningful playing time in 07-08 AND THEY WERE PICKED TO FINISH FOURTH IN THE WEST. With a group of new players they finish 19-8 overall and win the West Division, while UMHB finishes second.  How does DeWeese get named Coach of the Year when UMHB finishes below where they were picked to finish? Is it because UMHB beat McM twice?  I struggle with the fact that a Coach takes his team who was not expected to contend in the West to a division title and there is no recognition for that.

I could argue other things as well, but this is the one that I just don't get.

[Bearkat00]

He changed his line up every game. The players werent gettin in trouble in class on friday when they were traveling on the road. He started 10 different players, no player started every game. So that proves that theory wrong. I even noticed that #35 who did not get many minutes started a game late in the year.

Davis isnt even the best defender on the team. He may have had 1 good game an shut down Josh Johnson. Davis is a solid role player. One of the least athletic starting guards in the East.

Sorry it's taken so long to repsond to everything.

The rule is if you MISS THE PRACTICE BEFORE A GAME, YOU DON'T START.  Simple as that.  It wasn't who is in trouble with teachers or missing class - it was missing practice, which Coach Davis regretted doing early in the season.  Hence, why we had a dozen different starting line-ups.     

Second - I don't know which LETU athlete you talked with, but that is totally incorrect on "leadership" scholarships.  In fact, b/c LETU has no affiliation with any specifc church or organization to have leadership scholarships.  Visit the website to see what scholarships they have - pretty cut and dry.  Academic Scholarships, an alumni scholarship and then any federal or state grants that a student might be eligible for.  The average discount rate for a LETU is WAY below the conference average.   

Finally - yes, it's the same PG that was out last year, who's been out this year.  You make it sound like we went 20-7 this year, when we went 16-9 and lost a few close games b/c of some key TO.  My point about having this young man is that he is our true PG and would've helped us when a couple of those games down the stretch.  He would've made us a better team.  Yes, we had four players that are above avg. players in our conference, but none that can handle the rock. 

And I am curious on why we don't think Josh Davis deserved any credit for being in the same conversations as Defensive POY.  Did you have the opportunity to watch him play?

[Bearkat00]

It's always fun to speculate on awards, so I figure I'd give out some early awards:

POY
Bryan Johnson - MC Correct

Newcomer
Dale Vanwright - LETU Correct

Defensive POY
Josh Chambers - ETBU Correct

Coach
Terry Butterfield - UTD Correct

1st Team
Dale Vanwright - LETU Correct
Bryan Johnson - MC Correct
Josh Johnson - LC Correct
Anthony Reese - UTT Correct
JJ Rockmore - LETU Honorable Mention

2nd Team
Dusty Evers - LETU Correct
Hakeem Kareem - UTT Honorable Mention
Chris Williams - UO Correct
Jeremy Clark - UO Honorable Mention
Temaine Wright - UTD Correct

Honorable Mention
Tony Brock - UO No mention
Jacob Turnipseed - ETBU 2nd Teamer
Jeremiah Pojah - ETBU Correct
Clarence Jeffery - MC No mention
Ernie Lowry - UTD 1st Teamer - whoops

I didn't do that bad in my guesses for 1st team, 2nd team, and honorable mention.  Not that these guesses were rocket science or anything, but fun to see. 

[NJBalla35]

Any idea why Coach O is out at UO?

http://www.hoopdirt.com/job/452254c3/u-of-the-ozarks-head-coach/