MBB: American Southwest Conference

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ASCfan237

Must have been a great win by UT-Tyler.....Mr. Turner I think your comment is wrong though. I thought UT-Tyler beat McM already. Is that not correct?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: ASCfan237 on January 03, 2009, 01:14:16 AM
Must have been a great win by UT-Tyler.....Mr. Turner I think your comment is wrong though. I thought UT-Tyler beat McM already. Is that not correct?
Ouch!  The McM men did lose to UT-Tyler and beat HSU!  (The women edged UT-Tyler and lost to HSU!)

Thanks!  Corrections are always appreciated! :)

pistol pete 22

Great win for UT Tyler, its hard to figure them out but I guess I should stop picking against them.
Looking at the box score I see that Tilmon Gaddy had 15 and 6 were from the free throw line. Cru probably feels pretty stupid about his post right now. Looks like that MC education did Bizot well or someone forgot to tell gaddy that they had a game yesterday. Im curious to know how they guarded him since I thought UTT was a fairly small team. Box score shows they only played 8 people.

Big game for my Comets today!!!!!

ASCfan237

great game for Ozarks....way to get in them on the road.

#1wildcatfan

Congrats to the LC men's team tonight they beat Pensacola Christian 80-61. Josh Johnson posted a double-double with 16 points and 11 boards.

Congrats to Josh for winning player of the week for the second time this season!

LC has a big game this Thursday against UMHB at home.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: ASCfan237 on January 03, 2009, 07:11:04 PM
great game for Ozarks....way to get in them on the road.
UOz-HSU boxscore
The game is much closer than the score indicates.

The turning point that I notice is that HSU guard Terrance Willis commits his 4th and 5th fouls at 4:15 and 2:02 left in the game.  The scores at that time are HSU 76-75 and 78-77 HSU.  UOz hits 8 FT's and gets a layup in the final 2:02, and HSU fails to score after a Wooten layup at 3:49.

Ralph Turner

The East hosts the tourney this year, and it looks like UTD will be the venue.

That is a very solid UTD team.  They do not beat themselves.

The pressure is on Mississippi College this week to beat CTX and UMHB.

Those are critical series.

Curiously, as a McMurry fan, I need LaCollege and MissCollege to beat both teams to extend McMurry's lead in the West.

If CTX beats UMHB tomorrow night, and UMHB only splits the road trip, McMurry coudl have a 4 game lead on UMHB (if McM takes care of business against UOz, LeTU and ETBU.  Those teams have always given us trouble!)

JMHO, interdivision games should not count towards the division title!  Yes, I would love to have a 4-game lead on UMHB with 13 to play!

The key to beating UTD is getting the Comets deep bench!  The Comets first 7 players are smart solid players.  Therefore, if I think that I have more depth than UTD, I want to catch them as late in the conference tourney as possible.

As for Pool C bids, I think that UTD is the only one that has a chance at Pool C (at-large) bid.  Everyone else needs to win the tourney to earn a playoff bid.

ASCfan237

Interesting assesment. You think UTD has the East division locked up already? LeT is playing great and still undefeated. I think it is too early to decide between those two teams, Mississippi College will come back strong, and UT-Tyler is hanging around there. I'm just hoping that MC falls apart and Ozarks gets in that tourny.

pistol pete 22

waaaaaaaaay too early to be declaring MY Comets the division winner. Like ASCfan said, LeT is still undefeated and they have McM at home. UTT dominated us both games last year. Hopefully it was because of the players an not the coaching. An you should never count MC out this early.

Ralph Turner

#3264
My thoughts on the ASC-East...

I saw UTD totally dominate Guilford, a quality team from the best conference in the South Region.  I have seen UTD whip SRSU.  I heard the McM-UTD game. 

I have not seen or heard LeTU, but have followed them on this site.  I know that they lost to a quality UWW team. (In fact, I wonder if LeTU was the team that "softened" them up for a rested UMHB to pick off the next night!)  UWW doesn't beat themselves.  I believe that same thing about UTD.  They are as smart and disciplined a team as we see in the ASC.  I don't think that UTD loses to LeTU.  LeTU might beat UTD in one game, but I don't think that UTD is beaten more than three times this season.

I know it's early, but what the hey!  Here are my picks even before the crossover games finish.   ;)

UTD goes 17-3.  LeTU goes 16-4.  Mississippi College goes 15-5.  I am not sure who the 4th team in the ASC-East will be.

Comments please.


My bad...

UTT goes 15-5.  There are the 4 playoff teams from the East.

Bearkat00

I've never been one to get excited about picking who will win the conference and host, records, etc. for the simple fact that in the last nine years of ASC basketball, there have always been suprises. 

To follow up on Ralph's comments about the East - I do believe that LETU has the opportunity to beat any team they play.  The problem they've faced is that they haven't been able to get their "big three" on the same page. 

In the UWW loss - and once again, not taking anything away from UWW - Vanwright doesn't really establish himself like he has in conference play.  34 minutes, 10 points, 2 assist, 5 turnovers.  If you think he has anything close to resembling his consistent play in conference, this might be a tighter game.  With that being said, to be down 21 and to fight back, I took that as a positivie away from this game. 

All in all - it'll be good for LETU to play against McM on Saturday.  I think this will give us a true gauge of how well we handle some of the spotlight. 

BTW - it would be pretty cool if LETU hosted the tournament.  Talk about finally bringing some excitement to the University from an athletic standpoint.   

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Bearkat00 on January 05, 2009, 10:00:42 AM
I've never been one to get excited about picking who will win the conference and host, records, etc. for the simple fact that in the last nine years of ASC basketball, there have always been suprises. 

To follow up on Ralph's comments about the East - I do believe that LETU has the opportunity to beat any team they play.  The problem they've faced is that they haven't been able to get their "big three" on the same page. 

In the UWW loss - and once again, not taking anything away from UWW - Vanwright doesn't really establish himself like he has in conference play.  34 minutes, 10 points, 2 assist, 5 turnovers.  If you think he has anything close to resembling his consistent play in conference, this might be a tighter game.  With that being said, to be down 21 and to fight back, I took that as a positivie away from this game. 

All in all - it'll be good for LETU to play against McM on Saturday.  I think this will give us a true gauge of how well we handle some of the spotlight. 

BTW - it would be pretty cool if LETU hosted the tournament.  Talk about finally bringing some excitement to the University from an athletic standpoint.   
Yeah, but Bearcat, this year is LeTU's best year to date.  You have the best chance that I can remember to go deep into the playoffs.   ;)

pistol pete 22

Going by Ralphs predictions an looking at the results, its very clear that the East is the better division. McM seems like they are the only threat in the West and how good are they away from home? They lost to UTT on the road and they have LeT on the road this weekend. Looking at the West records its possible that there will only be 1 team with less than 4 losses after this weekend. While there could be 3 from the East with 1 loss or less.

Hopefully my Comets will bounce back tonight against the Cowboys.
Also interested to see how UMHB does tonight, they won by 55 then beat #6 in the nation then lost to Tyler at home. No one would have guessed they might start 2-4

Ralph Turner

Fans, I like the respect that the ASC got in this week's poll.

UTD lost on the road at McMurry.  The voters recognized that the Abilene road trip is a tough one, so a 2-point loss did not hurt them.   They dropped 25 votes and one place (from 23 to 24).

#1ascfanman

UMHB over Tyler-Incorrect
HSU over UO-Incorrect
McMurry over Dallas-Correct

Dallas over HSU...bounce back from losing to McMurry
McM over UO
Concordia over UMHB...they are at home and they shoot it well too.

Brings me to 14-11 with tonights games, I need to win a few to get the total up.