MBB: American Southwest Conference

[McM Blue Devil]

The final day of the season means a lot to us here at McMurry, as it is the last regular season game for Coach Ron Holmes.

A great coach, friend and man.  Thanks to Coach as he has done so much for McMurry, the young men who have played for him and for the ASC.

[realist]

realist, couldn't find it, could you be more specific as to where the link is?

I would love to see it.

Thanks

Go to the www.calvin.edu site
at the bottom of the home page select the link to sports.
ont eh sports page select "men's teams", and a pop up of various teams comes up.  select men's basketball.
The highlight is mentioned in the list on the left.

Coah Holmes is a class guy.

[Ralph Turner]

The frustrating thing about this season for us McMurry fans was the fact that we could not figure out which team would show up.

The two wins over HSU and the road wins over UMHB and UTDallas were one thing.  The losses to LeTU, TLU and Schreiner were committed by a team that I did not recognize.  This team should be 20-5 overall/18-4 in-region/ 18-3 in conference and regionally ranked somewhere about 4th or 5th on the South Region.

The Tourney should be happening at Kimbrell this weekend.

I hope the players will do some real gut-checking and come out focused on what they need to do.

[JACKET84]

Tournament Preditions 

First Round Winners:  UTD, McM, CU & MHB

Secound Round :  McM & CU

Finals:  CU

[Twright17]

THis is my first time posting posting, so let me start off by saying that it  is very interesting getting different opinions on the teams in the ASC. Second, I'm a recent UT-D grad and player so I'm pulling for UT-D.

The UTT UTD game was not the refs fault. If anybody saw the game Tyler  lost that game. Rodgers was fouled, are refs supposed to stop officiating bc there is a few secs left on the clock? The Tyler player made a bad play, he fouled, they called it. That is not cheating, that's just not being smart. Tyler also took a terrible shot to try and win the game.
The Ozarks game, Ozarks has a right to be upset with how that ended. Once again, it didnt have to come to that, all Oz had to do was inbound the ball and they would have won. I repeat all they had to do was INBOUND the ball and they couldnt even do that. Rodgers once again made a great play and got a jump ball. All these close games have one thing in common, the opposing teams had plenty of opportunities to win but didnt, it is nobodies fault but their own.

Onto to the Tournament, I'm going UT-D to repeat. They got a great group of experienced players who won it last year and want to win it again.

Gotta lookout for ETBU, they could cause some problems with their athleticism and length. Should Be a good tournament down in UMHB.

[pistol pete 22]

THis is my first time posting posting, so let me start off by saying that it  is very interesting getting different opinions on the teams in the ASC. Second, I'm a recent UT-D grad and player so I'm pulling for UT-D.

The UTT UTD game was not the refs fault. If anybody saw the game Tyler  lost that game. Rodgers was fouled, are refs supposed to stop officiating bc there is a few secs left on the clock? The Tyler player made a bad play, he fouled, they called it. That is not cheating, that's just not being smart. Tyler also took a terrible shot to try and win the game.
The Ozarks game, Ozarks has a right to be upset with how that ended. Once again, it didnt have to come to that, all Oz had to do was inbound the ball and they would have won. I repeat all they had to do was INBOUND the ball and they couldnt even do that. Rodgers once again made a great play and got a jump ball. All these close games have one thing in common, the opposing teams had plenty of opportunities to win but didnt, it is nobodies fault but their own.

Onto to the Tournament, I'm going UT-D to repeat. They got a great group of experienced players who won it last year and want to win it again.

Gotta lookout for ETBU, they could cause some problems with their athleticism and length. Should Be a good tournament down in UMHB.

I disagree with you, The UTT game you dont call a foul with .7 seconds left  on the opposite free throw line. If you were watching the game, about the middle of the game the ref made three straight calls against the UTT pg while he was just guarding the ball, not even on drives.... This was right after the a heated discussion between Bizot and the ref. Needless to say, that same ref made the call to end the game.

Refs tend to swallow the whistle at the end of the game, kinda like they did in the UTD UO game. Im not saying UTD cheated or its the refs fault UTT lost, but it should have gone to OT.

And to the UTD UO game? Were you there? First of all the foul that send barnes to the line when they were down 3 was completely bogus. The defender might not of even touched him and they called a hold, he was even wide open coming off the screen. Then yes all they had to do was inbounds the ball, but rodgers got about 3 fingers on the ball reaching over an across the UO players shoulder and they call a jump ball. The call doesnt get made if the game is anywhere else. And then the theres the travel and the scoreskeeper starting the clock late. Those games really didnt effect the standings but still, I dont agree with the stuff the happened. Especially at UTD.

To the tourney, I dont like UTD to repeat unless Greene plays. They just dont look as good without him. UTT is hot right now, only game they lost in last 5 was the one point loss to UTD. And the played UMHB close early this season. Had the lead late and only lost by 4.

I will say UMHB is the favorite because of the support they get at home. But watch out for MC, they always find a way to get to the finals.

[etbualum]

Ralph

You guys are getting luckey

[mcmfan]

...but apparently not lucky enough.  McM 77, ETBU 85   

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph

You guys are getting luckey

Yeah, Steven Luckey had a great game, but the team just seemed to fold somewhere in the second half of the season, maybe after the win in Belton.

I cannot figure this team out.  I know that Coach Garnett will do a great job, but I wish that my old friend, Coach Holmes, had finished with an ASC Championship.

[McM Blue Devil]

I think all ASC fans should thank Coach Holmes for his years not only at McMurry but what he has done for the ASC. 

Congrats Coach and good luck Coach Garnett.

[bcal]

Coach Holmes is a man with a high core set of values and is worthy of respect.  His record at McMurry over a span of 20 years sets a high standard for those who come after, just as coach Kimbrell did before him.  Coach Matt Garnett now is entrusted to carry our banner on to the field of contest.  IMHO, Matt Garnett is deserving of the title, "Coach."  A coach can be defined as one who trains young men for the coming contests and is a trusted friend and adviser for their life after college. 

This season started with such promise and with a high degree of sucess!  Then the troubles started.  Four of the athletes who the coaches relied on to provide a high level of solid minutes, for whatever the reason, were not with the team after the end of the first semester.  McMurry found itself seriously restricted at the 4 and 5 position.  New offense and defenses had to be installed.  Most importantly, the depth needed to crash the boards at both ends was not present.  The team suffered a crises of confidence.  When that happens, a half step of speed is lost, hesitation on the outlet pass, failure to take the shot during that brief flash when the shooter is open. 

Effort continued.  They played with heart.  Robert Moreno, Steven Lucky, J. Hart, and others picked up their game.  In the final game with ETBU, McMurry may not have won but I am most proud of the effort of the players and coaches Holmes and Garnett.  ETBU was bigger, stronger, deeper, and better.  McMurry led most of the game with passing,  screens, and accurate 3pt. shooting.  in the last 10 minutes of the contest, ETBU strength and depth in the paint made the difference.  McMurry continued to play hard, on offense and defense.  They did not quit.  McMurry team and coaches were playing as hard as they could to the final seconds. 

McMurry did not win on the scoreboard, but my respect for these coaches and players is now deeper. 

[Twright17]

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I disagree with you, The UTT game you dont call a foul with .7 seconds left  on the opposite free throw line. If you were watching the game, about the middle of the game the ref made three straight calls against the UTT pg while he was just guarding the ball, not even on drives.... This was right after the a heated discussion between Bizot and the ref. Needless to say, that same ref made the call to end the game.

Refs tend to swallow the whistle at the end of the game, kinda like they did in the UTD UO game. Im not saying UTD cheated or its the refs fault UTT lost, but it should have gone to OT.

And to the UTD UO game? Were you there? First of all the foul that send barnes to the line when they were down 3 was completely bogus. The defender might not of even touched him and they called a hold, he was even wide open coming off the screen. Then yes all they had to do was inbounds the ball, but rodgers got about 3 fingers on the ball reaching over an across the UO players shoulder and they call a jump ball. The call doesnt get made if the game is anywhere else. And then the theres the travel and the scoreskeeper starting the clock late. Those games really didnt effect the standings but still, I dont agree with the stuff the happened. Especially at UTD.

To the tourney, I dont like UTD to repeat unless Greene plays. They just dont look as good without him. UTT is hot right now, only game they lost in last 5 was the one point loss to UTD. And the played UMHB close early this season. Had the lead late and only lost by 4.

I will say UMHB is the favorite because of the support they get at home. But watch out for MC, they always find a way to get to the finals.

Utt-UTD, yes the ref called a foul with .7 secs, could he have swallowed the whistle, yes but he didn't. The basic facts are this, Rodgers got fouled, it wasn't a phantom call, it was blatant.
As far as Oz goes, i had a great seat for that game, although i do not remember it as detailed as you what say seems correct. All I know is this and i learned this from playing in the ASC, if your an underdog you can not keep a game close at someone elses house bc of situations like what happened. I don't believe Rodgers fouled the kid on the jump ball. The guy who the pass was intended for made no aggressive move toward the ball. He stood there and let the ball come to him which allowed Rodgers to get the jump ball. You can always look back on games and find calls that are questionable, that is the nature of the beast. I'm not justifying the calls that were made, I'm just stating that blame cannot solely be placed on the refs when the players in both games had chances to keep the refs out of the conclusion. UT-T lost that game and so did Oz, very hard lessons to learn but it will only make them better in future. I know how both teams feel, it sucks but you gotta capitalize on ever possession especially on the road. They aren't the first teams to have questionable calls go against them and wont be the last.

Greene is definitely missed this year, his experience and offensive and defensive presence is missed but they had guys step up in place of him and bring diff things to the table. They may not look as good without Greene but it hasn't stopped them winning. UT-d has beat everyone is conference except MCM, so my question is why do people not consider them the favorites to win? Out of all the teams in conference they have been the most consistent

Congrats to ETBU, congrats to Robert on a great career. Had the opportunity to play against him for two years, absolutely hated his quick hands. I'm sure if he was healthy things would have ended differently. ETBU length can cause any teams problem especially their 2-3. IT seemed to slow MCM down some imo.

MHB  and Mc should be a good game, good tournament so far

[mcmfan]

bcal,
Thank you for your sympathetic insight about the McM men's team.  It should help us take something positive out of a disappointing season.

[Pat Coleman]

Bracket: http://www.d3boards.com/playoffs/mbb-bracket2010.pdf

[Ralph Turner]

That is a pretty good bracket for us.  The Wheaton IL vs UMHB game should be a high profile game on Thursday night.

And you gotta go into the Midwest Bracket sometime.  Both UMHB and UTD should do well in that style of play.