MBB: American Southwest Conference

[whitebutterflies]

What new additions do they have? Just curious.

[321inandout]

I think it is funny for someone to boast LC.  They claim to have these great recruits every year and end up being a marginal team. So, good luck LC!
I have not seen the #2 ranking nationally for MC.  I think that is a little much.  I think they will have hard games with ut-tyler, umhb, and srsu.  MC will win the east but it wont be easy!

[LC-DBO]

You know I never seen so many people down LC in my life on here.  We usually do have good recruitments that add to our game but somewhere towards the end of the season we can't pull it together and win on the road.  We lost 5 straight games last year to end the season and only needed 1 win to secure us a spot in the playoffs.  We have added different things to our schema (offense/defense) hopefully the players will come through this year and more games against the West since SRUS, HPU, MCM, and HSU are all coming to the Cat House.

[whitebutterflies]

Maybe the reason everyone talks down on LC is bc any game at the "Litter Box" turns into the officials determining the game instead of the players.  There is no debate, look at the numbers.

I was just asking, who are these new recruits?

[dballa]

= Three ASC players garnered Street & Smith's Preseason All-America notice, led by First Team selection Tyler Winford (Madison, Miss.), s sophomore forward from Mississippi College. Winford was last season's ASC East Freshman of the Year, All-East Division and NABC All-South Region pick. Guard Cedric Isom of East Texas Baptist is listed on the magazine's Preseason All-America Second-Team. Sophomore post player Travis Tennison (San Antonio, Texas/Converse-Judson HS) of McMurry is among the Honorable Mention Preseason All-American honorees.

Ralph, Is Tennison even coming back this year?  This was in with the listing of the men's preseason selections.

[Ralph Turner]

dballa, actually, this is a secret!  Don't tell the rest of the ASC.

Travis is not enrolled at McMurry.  His wife got a job (in San Antonio, I think).

I have not heard from Travis, so I don't know how he is doing.  If he reads this, I hope he will email me offline.

[dballa]

Definitely a shame not to see him play again...although not too disappointed to not see him play against HPU   He is a great player, and what seems to be a great person as well.  The best to him and his family. 

[LC-DBO]

Ok, for your information on the officials at the "Litter Box" , which we call the "Cat House" they sucked it up last year.  In my years of watching LC play on the road at home all their home games last year seemed like they were playing away for all the bad calls we got especially against ETBU.  We should have beat them last year at home.  We have a transfer this year that is going to help us out alot. 

[whitebutterflies]

I noticed pre season rankings came out, had LC 6th. Thats about right.

I also saw Hooper as Pre-season POY in the West. He's a pretty decent player, but I would have to go with Gatlin from UMHB.

[btlost21]

Now that the season is coming closer in to veiw, does anybody have any opinions about maybe a dark horse team or player?

[Ralph Turner]

whitebuterflies,

Can you post the hyperlink to the Pre-season poll?

[dballa]

Ralph not the hyper link but maybe it will do


ASC 2005-06 MEN'S BASKETBALL PRESEASON POLL, AWARDS
Selected by Conference Coaches, Sports Information Directors and Media

ASC EAST DIVISION
Rank Team (first place votes) Points
1. Mississippi College (19) 173
2. East Texas Baptist (3) 138
3. Texas-Tyler 125
4. Texas-Dallas 113
5. Univ. of the Ozarks 85
6. Louisiana College 79
7. Austin College 45
8. LeTourneau 34
ASC East Preseason Player of the Year:
Cedric Isom, G, Sr., East Texas Baptist

ASC WEST DIVISION
Rank Team (first place votes) Points
1. Mary Hardin-Baylor (8 ) 127
2. Sul Ross State (4) 121
3. McMurry (5) 120
4. Hardin-Simmons (3) 119
5. Howard Payne 73
6. Texas Lutheran 58
7. Concordia-Austin 48
8. Schreiner 36
ASC West Preseason Player of the Year:
Sidney Hooper, G, Sr., Sul Ross State

[etbualum]

LC always has a decent team they just dont seem to put it together in the end.  Last years collapse had alot to do with not taking care of the ball down the stretch especially against ETBU.  I heard that they do have a post player in that transferred but we will see how he pans out.

I believe ETBU has a scrimmage against someone so I will let you guys know how they do.

[hoopshops]

I think the west predictions were pretty close with the top 4 all within a few votes of each other.  I would have HSU up higher since they have alot of players returning, but UMHB, HSU, SRU, and McM should all be there in the end.

[Ralph Turner]

The Top 4 are so close, that I could imagine flipping the teams on one hypothetical ballot.

Imagine someone put UMHB as #1 (8 pts), HPU #2 (7 pts), SRSU as #3 (6 pts), McMurry #4 (5 pts) and HSU #5 (4pts).

Then on this hypothetical ballot,

Flip UMHB to #5, subtract 4 pts to give them 123 total.
Make HSU #1 to add 4 points to give them 123 total.
Make SRSU #2 to add 1 point to give them 122 total.
Make McM #3 to add 1 point to give them 121 total.
Drop HPU to #4 to subtract 2 pts to give them 71 total.

That is how close it is.  IMHO it is a virtual 4-way tie.