MBB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

finnman, this has been an interesting game.

HSU 83, McM 81 HSU ball 0:10.

[dsc]

Final:

HSU 85

McM 81

Great win...Cowboys!  You can do it.

Hard fought game...lead changed back and forth.

Good games in the Mabee Complex and on the Forty Acres!

Go Cowboys!

[Ralph Turner]

Radio report...

The biggest excitement in the game was when HSU Coach Dylan Howard came off the bench, ran onto the floor and chested up on McM guard Elijah Bryant after a foul by Bryant on a steal attempt.

That is inexcusable!    Howard is about 6 inches taller and 80 lbs heavier than Bryant.

Coach Holmes came off the bench to protect his player.  Only then did both coaches get technical fouls.

The referees lost control of the game.

[dsc]

Hey Ralph,

Was that a McM radio broadcast?

Just curious...

It was definitely a "Cowboys and Indians" battle tonight!

Could not believe the number of times the lead changed over during the last 10 or so minutes of the game.

Do you know how many fans were in attendance?

On to the playoffs...I hope anyway.  Cowboys are improving.

[Ralph Turner]

Yes, that was the way that the McMurry announcers described it.  Coach Howard seeemd to be on the floor about 5 secs before Coach Holmes' name was mentioned.

The McM announcers were commenting about how far Coach Howard (came from his place on the bench) to confront Bryant.

[mcmfan]

Sounds like you guys on the radio didn't hear how loud it actually was in the gym.  The HSU Cowboy Band was set up with horns and drums at the top of the bleachers for both the men's and women's games, and whenever there was a break they blasted forth.  I couldn't even hear my wife sitting next to me, and they pretty well drowned out all the cheerleading routines on the floor during the timeouts.  I think the band definitely gave HSU an edge; is this a new trand, bands at basketball games as well as football games?  If each side brings its band, in the confined space of a closed auditorium the fans will have to wear earplugs!

[Ralph Turner]

The HSU scoresheet does not list the technicals on the coaches.

http://hsuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2005-2006/hsum19.html#GAME.BOX

If the conference office wants to look at the video, then they can find out what happened.

[dsc]

Ralph,

The official scoresheet shows:

Technical Foul-McMurry-TEAM
Technical Foul-HSU-TEAM

So, I guess they awarded the TEAMS the fouls, not the coaches.  Are there any free throws when that happens?

Was this towards the end of the game...or when?

I'd be interested in hearing what someone (mcmfan?) who was at the game says about the incident.

I was at HSU games "in the last century"...and the Cowboy Band (remnants of it) played at the games then.

I think the 2,211 in attendance is maximum!

[Ralph Turner]

The play-by-play does not record the Technicals which are now recorded on the game sheet.  I think that they were listed in the last minute of play, being given to Russell Raymond instead of Elijah Bryant.

I wasn't scripting the game from the radio, so I don't have notes.

After the foul call on the McM player (Bryant?/Richards), the HSU Coach comes off the bench.  If the refs call that technical then, HSU shoots the foul shots and then McMurry shoots the technicals.  McMurry then gets possession of the ball after getting the chance to neutralize the persopnal foul free throws.  It is a big swing in the game. 

Coach Holmes has to go protect his player.  But the referees fail to control the game and the coach who is chesting up a player from the other team.  The second technical (on McM) gave the advantage back to the (HSU) coach who got the first technical.

I also have had this story corroborated by another fan who was courtside at the game.

[hoopshops]

Huge win for the COWBOYS in the standings and against their crosstown rival.  Good to see HSU win at home in front of the fans too because last time HSU won it was over the break and at McM.  Good job Pickelman and Jean, way to step up.  Keep getting them W's and make some noise in the confernce tourney!

[Ralph Turner]

...
I think the 2,211 in attendance is maximum!

dsc, I have been using the 3200 capacity figure that is listed on the HSU Cowboy and Cowgirl D3Hoops.com webpages.  They list the enrollment at 2,211.

In any case my friend reports it was capacity by the end of the women's game.

[McM Blue Devil]

I am going to keep rather quiet on the events of last night's game for fear of saying something I will regret.  That beings said, hats off the the players of HSU for carrying out a game plan and playing real well.  I believe this McM team any given night can beat anybody in the Conference.  I don't think we have heard the last of them.

And As Forrest Gump would say..

That is all I have to say about that.

[mcmfan]

Afraid I'll have to disappoint you; I couldn't tell what exactly happened, until both coaches were on the court and the refs were going crazy.  It looked to me like Elijah almost tackled the guy with the ball to make sure the refs saw the foul and stopped the clock, or slipped and fell on him when he fouled him so it looked worse than it was intended.  Or maybe the guy with the ball deliberately fell down to make it look worse than it was.  Howard may have thought he was defending his guy from Elijah. I think at that point in the game, everything was personal.  When Brashears fouled out a bit earlier, for example, the HSU announcer on the P.A. system didn't just say he fouled out, he said he fouled out and then added sarcastically, "Let's have a round of applause for Finlay Brashears!"  In that charged atmosphere, it's probably surprising there weren't more technicals.

[d3fan4life]

This may dissapoint you also, but this is exactly what happened:
there was a hard foul (intentional? probably, but aren't they all intentional under a minute).  HSU GUARD got up off the court and started toward MCM GUARD (they were probably going to "chest up" and push each other a little, you know how kids are) when HSU COACH, very quickly, slid in between them (it was less than five feet from the HSU BENCH) to keep them apart.  HSU COACH was facing MCM GUARD, but there was never a "chest up" from HSU COACH to MCM GUARD.  MCM COACH came over to get his two cents in.  BOTH COACHES got into a battle of words.  the refs seperated everyone, sent both COACHES to their BENCHES (with both of them talking the whole way), and finaly got them to sit.  evidently MCM COACH was not done talking to HSU COACH so he came all the way over to the HSU BENCH where HSU COACH was still sitting in his seat.  HSU COACH then stood up.  i dont think they were making dinner plans.  when HSU COACH finally stood up, i'm sure MCM COACH forgot why he even went over there in the first place. (HSU COACH is a big big man).  needless to say BOTH BENCHES got a "T".  that is how it went down.

someone please explain:
MCM COACH came all the way over to the HSU BENCH to try and restart the fire, and they gave BOTH BENCHES a "T".
um, makes sence to me?

[dsc]

d3fan4life,

Thanks for giving us your perspective on the events.  Seems plausible to me.  Of course, everyone believes what they want to believe...and sees what they want to see!

It appears the refs did a fairly good job in handling the matter.  From your report it appears (to me) that both "benches" deserved the technical.  To "punish" only one would not have been fair...at all.

Again, thanks for your report.  Everyone can draw their own conclusion.  I know the HSU coach and I would not go out of my way to pick a disagreement with him...e.g. size, etc.   Coach Howard is a good man and would not harm a flea!  Protect his player, on his home court?  You bet!