MBB: American Southwest Conference

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kid nice

I can't understand this. How can MC not be hosting. Are they not the top seed in the region? It has nothing to do with geography and everything to do with economics. I think the NCAA exploits the athletes enough (especially D-1) to be able to afford a few plane tickets and hotel rooms. I would think that a team that is 28-1 would be rewarded for that no matter who they are or where they reside and if Hope is the top seed then the sectional should be there. I would love for someone to give me a logical explanation other than monetary because i can not believe that this is a major concern for a multi million dollar organization. Go Chocs and stuff our southern and asc pride down every teams throat that you meet up there!

hopefan

shot in the dark,

If Hope and Mississippi College win on Friday night, is there anyone else out there in the St. Louis Mo area who would be interested in driving over to Witt to see Saturday's game?
Private message me and maybe we can hook up  -  I'm willing to drive  - drive back after game getting home late.
Best to private message me.
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Ralph Turner

Congratulations Hopefan on your 1000th post! :)

hopefan

and it may be my first ever post in the ASC room!!!!????
I've never even been to Texas!!!!!
The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!

dsc

hopefan,

Your karma grew for visiting the ASC! :D


Welcome to Texas!

(Even though I am in D.C.!) ;D
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leroy

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 05, 2006, 11:10:05 PM
The Midwest/Great Lakes hates the up-tempo style of play.  Look at the ridicule that is foisted upon teams that play up-tempo (Nolan Richardson style) or Grinnell's systems.

Well, a strong inside neutralizing presence will permit the up-tempo to succeed.  However, if MissColl needs to handle a slower pace, then that falls on Winford's shoulders to neutralize the inside-out game..

Not sure about this comment?  Saying an entire region (especially a region that has dominted the D3 championships) hates up tempo basketball would be a bit extreme.  Actually, having seen a fair amount of ASC and Midwest D3 basketball I would say MC is one of the most "Midwest" type teams.  That is because they have great fundamentals, rebound well, play hard, and attempt to shoot a good percentage. 

I feel the Midwest gets the unfair rap of playing "slow" basketball, when in fact they play "smart" and "good" basketball...as does MC.  While the style is slower up North, many teams in the Midwest play up-tempo and many teams down South slow it down.  To say the entore region HATES up tempo is too extreme.  Grinnell would get the same criticism anywhere.  I do feel the Midwest emphasizes team play and hustle more than other regions.

That being said, I think MC will win that regional and I hope they win the National Championship.  I have seen Lawrence, Wooster, and NC Wesleyan and a MC National title is possible this year.   

Pat Coleman

Quote from: kid nice on March 06, 2006, 10:34:09 AM
I can't understand this. How can MC not be hosting. Are they not the top seed in the region? It has nothing to do with geography and everything to do with economics.

Uhhh ... same thing.
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Ralph Turner

Leroy, good evening. :)

I don't recall MC having 2 big men as good as Winford and Broomfield in this decade.

MC had no one to contest Kim Maina for McMurry in 2000 and 2001.  Lewis and Clark just destroyed Miss Coll in 2003.  SRSU's Justin Steward and company dominated in 2004.

I think that they will be the key to the game.  Winford needs to play 28 minutes per game and play well to win the Sectional.  ;)

;)

NCChoctaw

As a relative newcomer to the board, let me first introduce myself.  I am a transplanted choctaw alum in Raleigh, NC, and I've watched these boards for several years without ever registering or posting.  Ralph Turner, you are a classy guy that knows his game, even if you are an Indian.  I was at several of the McMurry/MC heated matchups in the late 90's, early 00's.  I certainly appreciate your defense of MC come tourney time.

Tell me, why does it seem like the Hope/Witt fans have absolutely no respect for MC.  I can certainly appreciate their confidence in their home squad, but they speak of their upcoming game as if it is THE championship.  Are they foolish to overlook a 28-1 Choctaw team that is, from all indication, 12 deep?  Or, are they just that good?

NCChoctaw

Pardon me, 29-1.  Also, I don't want to convey the attitude of looking past Transy...

Ralph Turner

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NCChoctaw, welcome aboard.

We ASC fans are extremely delighted to have another Choctaw to contribute and post pertinently.

I think that the Great Lakes posters have some degree of provincialism about their basketball.  After all, the only ASC teams they have seen directly are the 2005 MC team that lost to Calvin in Albion, the 2000 McM team that lost to Calvin in Calvin and the 1999 Choctaws who lost at John Carroll.

To make a broad generalization (and you know how fallacious that can be), they also behave with respect to their basketball the way that Southerners behave about our football, (Indiana Football? :P :-\ And Notre Dame football is national football.)

I really mean what I post about Winford and Broomfield.  I  don't think that we ASC fans have had the big men necessary to win at this level ( the Sweet 16, or Elite 8), where winning gets you to the Final Four.  They have too many skillful short 6-footers who could run with us, maybe not as quickly but with more savvy.

We will need to beat them inside.

Have a good day! :)

NCChoctaw

I can appreciate the football analogy.  Speaking of football, I had an old high school coach that, when the opposing team would start "whooping and hollering" before games, would remind us that the wounded dog always yells first... :)

Ralph Turner

NCChoctaw, I have one other thought about what MC needs to do.

(The fun thing about being a fan is we get to sit on the sidelines  and yell all sorts of things whether they are right or not! :D ;)  Anyway here goes!)

Coach Lofton has the Chocs back in the 16 again.  He knows what got him here and he knows what he needs to do to get where the entire Choctaw team coaching staff, fans, etc want to go.

Use whatever analogy that you want, Poker, Bridge, Golf, you see your hand with the cards you were dealt, your lie and the clubs in your bag, etc.

If you take a vote, every serious Chcotaw player says to himself, this is for the team!  I believe that Coach Lofton and my teammates have gotten us here to the Sweet 16 again this year, and I really just want to be on the plane going to Salem!  So, I want Coach Lofton to figure out how we get to Salem.  If that means he needs to shift minutes, then I understand.   I just want to be on the plane to Salem! 

I really believe that the Chocs have to prepare for a style of play that we don't often see in the ASC or the South.

I believe that Timothy Broomfiled needs to play "twenty pounds" heavier.

Above all, I really do wish the Choctaws all the best!

Bring home a banner to an ASC gym! :)

scottiedoug

I don't care about the ASC gym stuff, Ralph, but it is time for a team from Southern Basketball to bring home the banner (and it is so much easier for me since Mississippi College is not in Texas!).

NCChoctaw

Scottie, we'll take the support however we can get it.  These days, I see the Golden Dome as much as you guys do....none. :)