MBB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

fanstand, it was great to see you last night!

Your daughter is doing a wonderful job with the conditioning of the team.

FG % for the game

HSU: 1st half:  10-24 (41.7%); 2nd half:  9-28 (32.1%) 19-52  (36.5%)

McM: 1st half:  10-24 (41.7%); 2nd half: 14-27 (51.9%) 24-51 (47.1%)

Error:  This post applies to the Women!!! Sorry!!!

[hoopshops]

Good Job HSU!  Way to battle back and pull it out.  Way to step up Pickelman and Brackett, thats what Seniors do.  Being a part of that rivalry for so long I know how it feels to pull a close one out.  Thats just the start of things to come for the COWBOYS!!!

[balls a dunkin]

Just got caught up on some of ya'lls posts. Why on earth is everybody critisizing MC's team, coaching staff, and game play.  Particularly McM and HSU fans.  I don't know if ya'll have heard but we beat you both, close games, yes, but wins nonetheless.  The only person giving us any respect ( John_Wesley) beat the breaks off us.  So quit making excuses and predicitions about us and worry about your own teams. 

[hoopstar]

Just got back home after the drive from Abilene.

Thanks to Pat Coleman for the Tour de Tejas.

As for the officiating, I thought that they let them play in the first half and then, voila, it is a different game.

Congratulations to Zack Pickelman...3 straight 3FGs!

I have one other thought about the HSU-MissColl game.  I haven't seen UMHB or HPU yet, but Mardochee Jean for HSU is a very respectable post player.

Consider this...

Miss College is on Game #2 of the very hard Abilene road trip.  Yes, they beat McMurry, but there is considerable emotional preparation for a McM-MC match.

Mardochee Jean is a very good (maybe All-ASC West) post.  He forces MissColl to honor his play inside and thus he opens things up for HSU's outside game.  M Jean had 1-3 FGs, 10-14 FTs, 3 off and 6 def rebs.  Was that enough to influence the Miss Coll game plan?

Let's see the HPU-Miss Coll game in Borwnwood next month, when the Chocs play against last year's all-ASC-West post, Sean Wheeler.

Actually they didnt honor him. When MC honors a post player they double him when he gets the ball, but they didnt verse him. He does do a great job getting to the foul line though.  What gave HSU their outside game was their offense. They have great movement off the ball. Also, they get the ball to Pickleman alot off of double and triple screens(very hard to defend unless you switch which causes matchup problems) As some of yall saw last night, HSU can come back quick in game late. Note: Sean Wheeler scored 7 last year on MC(most on free throws)

[dballa]

in the first meeting Wheeler had 20 pts against MC in a close loss in Miss.

But in that first game they also had a real point guard.  this year HPU doesn't have one that has stepped up to fulfill that roll.  It will be the guards that determine the outcome of the game this year.

[Ralph Turner]

Just got caught up on some of ya'lls posts. Why on earth is everybody critisizing MC's team, coaching staff, and game play.  Particularly McM and HSU fans.  I don't know if ya'll have heard but we beat you both, close games, yes, but wins nonetheless.  The only person giving us any respect ( John_Wesley) beat the breaks off us.  So quit making excuses and predicitions about us and worry about your own teams. 

Balls, you are new to these forums.  There are 2 levels of discussion that occur on this and the football board, but the underlying theme is about all teams getting to a higher level.

When it is in the conference, we can all talk about what it takes to win the conference.  Once the champion is determined, we are all unified about getting the comference champ to the national championship.  Whether McM, MissColl, Sul Ross in 2004 or that UT-D team that pushed a talented Trinity squad in 2005, at that next level we all want the teams to succeed.  If the ASC can get respect, then all ASC teams benefit.

The next level is earning a playoff berth for 11 of the teams.  For UT-D, SRSU and McM, it is getting back there.  For MissColl, it is winning a Sweet 16 game.

I watched the video feed of the Miss College-Transylvania game last March.   There probably aren't a dozen active posters who can say that.  I will continue to discuss what teams need to do to get to those respective levels.  As an ASC fan, we need success deeper into the tourney.  For MissCollege, it is breaking thru that Sweet 16 barrier.

Have a good season, and we are probably looking at the conference tourney at the Golden Dome, again.

[Ralph Turner]

dballa and hoopstar, thanks for the comments!

Tough loss at Sully last night, HPU.

http://www.sulross.edu/pages/6182.asp

[Ralph Turner]

McM bounces back against Trinity 75-62.

[mcmfan]

Let's hope the McM guys can also bounce back in their classes.  They are playing a lot of games right before finals... ending with a road trip to Ozarks Saturday when final exams begin on Monday. 

[Ralph Turner]

Let's hope the McM guys can also bounce back in their classes.  They are playing a lot of games right before finals... ending with a road trip to Ozarks Saturday when final exams begin on Monday. 

Perhaps that is a topic that should be addressed by the Presidents at the next conference meeting.

[McM Blue Devil]

McM showed a lot last night by beating Trinity.  While Trinity is not the typical Trinity team, McM pulled one out when they needed too. While Monday night was a heartbreaker, it is one game in a long long year.  In my opinion, McM will get nothing but better. The rematch on the 22nd of January means nothing however if McM does not take care of business between now and then.  Once again I think we are in for a West Division race that is up in the air.  I could be wrong, but HSU does not strike me as a dominating team.

Also I want to address Balls a Dunkins message that hsu and McM fans have been criticizing MC's coaches , players, etc.  Please read my post from last Friday.  I was nothing but complimentary about the team that MC has this year.

[HSUats]

Good Win By McM Tuesday Night After The Hard Fought Loss To HSU The Night Before. Goodluck To Both Abilene Teams As They Travel To The Ozarks(Especially My Cowboys) And Safe Travels To Both.

I could be wrong, but HSU does not strike me as a dominating team.

IF The Cowboys Could Play For The Full 40 Minutes Instead Of Waiting Till The End They Could Be Very Dominating. But It Seems That They Wait To The End To Start Playing Good Ball

[CUAfan]

Let's hope the McM guys can also bounce back in their classes.  They are playing a lot of games right before finals... ending with a road trip to Ozarks Saturday when final exams begin on Monday. 

Perhaps that is a topic that should be addressed by the Presidents at the next conference meeting.

You bet they do. We (CUA) have to travel to ETBU and LETU for games on Thursday the 14th and Saturday the 16th, which means they'll be leaving probably mid-day on the Wednesday of finals week. Our president even got involved and they wouldn't change it.

On another note, UT-Tyler deserves credit for never quitting in that shootout they had with us. Weasby was on fire in the first half (I think he had 21 or so), and late #33 for them was hitting everything he put up. They have enough shooters and rebounders to give a lot of people trouble. I'm looking forward to seeing how we do against UT-Dallas. It could be another shootout, what with Salinas for UTD and Maxwell and McDonald for us.

[kid nice]

Balls, take it as a compliment that everyone criticizes MC.  Everyone wants to beat us. Thats part of being the best, you take everyone's best shot.  That is also one of the most fun parts that I remember about playing for MC.  You could just tell when you had broken the other team's spirit with about 5 min. to go and they knew they couldnt win.  Now for some critisizing of my own.  It sounds and looks like from the scores that MC doesnt play as much strong defense as past Coach Jones teams did and from what I hear the team this year is one of the most athletic ones he has had. 

[hoopstar]

I meant in the ASC tourny S.Wheeler he had 7. Im not sure if they dont play as strong of defense. I think it has alot to do with they are not trying to be such of a halfcourt team and burn the clock. So if MC scores more than they used to, so will the opposing team just because of more shots. This years team is definetly one of the most athletic they have had, but im not sure if it is athletic as last years team(its probably about the same with alot of the same players returning) I would say that this years team though does miss Orlando Lewis, who was a pure three point shooter and one of the best defenders MC has ever had.