MBB: American Southwest Conference

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: gccfan on February 12, 2007, 11:47:43 AM
mcmfan, here is the tie breaker info from the ASC Website

9.1.1 Two-Way Ties: In the event of a two-way tie, the seed positions are determined by:
a. Record against each other.
b. Record against other Division opponents in descending order starting with the highest seeded team
c. Point-Run Differential between tied teams. If the tie remains, Point-Run Differential in descending order starting with the highest seeded team within the Division. There will be a maximum cap in designated sports used for each game in the Point-Run Differential:
Basketball: 10 points per game

So it basically looks like McMurry would need the Crusaders to also lose to HSU on Saturday to earn the #1 seed because MCM went 1-1 against HSU and UMHB won that first meeting with HSU.  After that, it would come down to the point differentials.


Good job gcc!  +1

We can neutralize the point-spread by beating them by 10 points.  The remainder of the tie-breaking criteria then go to inter-region contests.  McMurry has the won over LeTU and UT-D at that point.

Remember, that McMurry can earn ASC-West a co-championship by winning both.

In my book, that hangs a banner.  Practically speaking, we have to win the tourney to make the NCAA's.

mcmfan

So for McM to win the conference, assuming we beat UMHB on Thursday, I have to root for our arch-rivals the Hardened Sinners to win on Saturday?!! What a thought!
Alacumba!

gccfan

Ralph, I think you are right about McMurry needing to win the whole thing.  At this point, I think Mississippi College is in for sure unless they would lose 3 straight games or something unbelievable like that.  I think if UMHB can win at MCM and HSU plus their first round playoff game they are in.  If they lose to either McM or HSU then they need to make the championship and if they lose to both then they will have to win the whole thing. 

I just finished listening to Coach DeWeese on Hoopsville.  I thought he did a good job of promoting the entire conference and pointing out how even a school having a down year (aka Howard Payne) can still make it very difficult to defeat them and how all the school's have great athletes.

Bearkat00

Quote from: lcwildcatfan on February 11, 2007, 02:00:39 AM
Congratulations to LC for making the tournament this year!! They deserve it!! They will win their first game of the tournament.

A bold statement - but I wouldn't be horribly suprised if they did.  A team like that, if they get hot, they could win a couple of games. 

Also, congrats to LETU for a nice win against UT-D and clinching their first playoff apperance.  I don't think I will go as far as to say they are going to win their first tournament game, but I do think it should be a GREAT conference tournament up in MC!

Ralph Turner

Congratulations to UMHB on their appearance in the Top 25!

I also encourage you to listen to the Hoopsville archive for Coach DeWeese's interview at the end of the first hour.

HPU75

Also congrats to UMHB for cracking into the top 25!! I have not listened to Coach Deweese yet but I am pleased to hear that he talked up our entire conference--especially our HPU Yellow Jackets.  What a tough year for HPU.  I have seen 6-8 men's games this year and they have ALL been 5-8-10 POINT LOSSES.  Hardly any blowouts the whole year. We are not that far behind the top teams, although it certainly does not show in the record.  As an HPU grad with a UMHB daughter, I guess I will yell for the UMHB guys and my HPU girls against you Abilene people these next couple of weeks.  I guess I really look  and sound like a frontrunner!!!

golden_dome

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 12, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
Congratulations to UMHB on their appearance in the Top 25!

I also encourage you to listen to the Hoopsville archive for Coach DeWeese's interview at the end of the first hour.
Congratulations to Coach DeWeese for entering the Top 25.  Its good to see two ASC teams ranked. Their new ranking will add a little something to what will be the biggest game in the ASC this year when they visit McMurry. UMHB has won 16 straight and McMurry ten. The Crusaders will have to play like a Top 25 team to get wins at McMurry and HSU, that's a tough road trip.

Also, very good interview on Hoopsville.

dsc

Quote from: mcmfan on February 12, 2007, 01:01:23 PM
So for McM to win the conference, assuming we beat UMHB on Thursday, I have to root for our arch-rivals the Hardened Sinners to win on Saturday?!! What a thought!

Hey!

We need all the help we can get.  Thank you... ;D

HSU'er!
HARDIN-SIMMONS UNIVERSITY: AN EDUCATION ENLIGHTENED BY FAITH.

gccfan

CUAFan, I was wondering if there was any news on Valentino Maxwell being available to play in the tournament?

gccfan

#2199
I was looking over the results for each team this year and narrowed down the results to just games decided by 5 points or less and this is what I found.

LeTourneau (7-1)
Mary Hardin-Baylor (3-1)

Sul Ross State (3-1)
Louisiana College (2-2)
Mississippi College (2-2)

Schreiner (2-2)
East Texas Baptist (4-5)
Hardin-Simmons (3-4)
Ozarks (3-4)
Concordia (2-3)
McMurry (2-3)

UT-Tyler (2-4)
UT-Dallas (1-2)
Texas Lutheran (1-4)
Howard Payne (1-4)

Playoff teams are in bold.  Not sure what this proves other than a team like LeTourneau might be able to surprise the conference powers in the playoffs because they are used to playing and winning close games.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: gccfan on February 13, 2007, 02:24:50 PM
I was looking over the results for each team this year and narrowed down the results to just games decided by 5 points or less and this is what I found.

LeTourneau (7-1)
Mary Hardin-Baylor (3-1)

Sul Ross State (3-1)
Louisiana College (2-2)
Mississippi College (2-2)

Schreiner (2-2)
East Texas Baptist (4-5)
Hardin-Simmons (3-4)
Ozarks (3-4)
Concordia (2-3)
McMurry (2-3)

UT-Tyler (2-4)
UT-Dallas (1-2)
Texas Lutheran (1-4)
Howard Payne (1-4)

Playoff teams are in bold.  Not sure what this proves other than a team like LeTourneau might be able to surprise the conference powers in the playoffs because they are used to playing and winning close games.


I don't know if there is a correlation to college basketball, but the research from the Society of American Baseball Research says that the outcomes in one-run games are due to luck.  That seems to be a reasonable explanation to me.  LeTU has been on a roll! 

imad3fanatic

Quote from: gccfan on February 13, 2007, 12:05:07 PM
CUAFan, I was wondering if there was any news on Valentino Maxwell being available to play in the tournament?
Maxwell is finished for the year. He said he would start rehab in a couple of weeks.

gccfan

Quote from: imad3fanatic on February 13, 2007, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: gccfan on February 13, 2007, 12:05:07 PM
CUAFan, I was wondering if there was any news on Valentino Maxwell being available to play in the tournament?
Maxwell is finished for the year. He said he would start rehab in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for the update

Bearkat00

Quote from: gccfan on February 13, 2007, 02:24:50 PM
I was looking over the results for each team this year and narrowed down the results to just games decided by 5 points or less and this is what I found.

LeTourneau (7-1)
Mary Hardin-Baylor (3-1)

Sul Ross State (3-1)
Louisiana College (2-2)
Mississippi College (2-2)

Schreiner (2-2)
East Texas Baptist (4-5)
Hardin-Simmons (3-4)
Ozarks (3-4)
Concordia (2-3)
McMurry (2-3)

UT-Tyler (2-4)
UT-Dallas (1-2)
Texas Lutheran (1-4)
Howard Payne (1-4)

Playoff teams are in bold.  Not sure what this proves other than a team like LeTourneau might be able to surprise the conference powers in the playoffs because they are used to playing and winning close games.


The frustrating part of this thing is that there have been about three or four times LETU has had a double digit lead and then had to hold on down the wire.  Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good!

Does someone have the link to a blank bracket for this year's tournament?

Bearkat00

LeTourneau University down 1 to #21 Jarvis Christian at the Half.