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Bearkat00

Quote from: ASCfan237 on November 06, 2008, 09:48:08 AM
I heard that LeT beat up on Jacksonville Junior College pretty good last week even without Deowes Smith. Can anyone confirm that?

Yea - LETU crushed Jacksonville.  Their right in that Jacksonville wasn't very good.  It was a typical scrimmage in that they played 3 halves with a running clock.  Zac Majors and Dusty Evers looked very good in the game.  Smith didn't play b/c of a sore ankle.  Should play in season opener. 

HBU has been a D1 school for only one year.  They were drilled in all their legitimate D1 games last year.  They've been planning to make that transition for a few years for two reasons - 1)NAIA is a very week division.  A good D3 team can handle most, if not all, NAIA teams.  2)They were in a very poor conference that they beat up on year in and year out. 

etbualum

Quote from: ASCfan237 on November 06, 2008, 09:48:08 AM
MC back on top again huh..... ETBUalum, any word on why they didnt play or which players they were. I heard that LeT beat up on Jacksonville Junior College pretty good last week even without Deowes Smith. Can anyone confirm that?


Minor injuries to the ETBU players.  I am pretty sure they will be in uniform tomorrow.  HBU while not being a very good d1 will still throw 5 full scholarship players on the floor at all times.  It should be a good test for ETBU

ASCfan237

How did ETBU fair against those scholarship athletes? Is LeT playing any D1s before conference?

etbualum

etbu lost 104 to 88

I didnt go to the game but we shot the ball well. Looks like we didnt defend very well.

http://hbuhuskies.athleticsite.com/stats/BKB0809/exh.htm

#1ascfanman

I don't know much about HBU, I only remember the NAIA days, so I can't say much about the score or game, but I do see lots of guys getting good minutes and being somewhat productive looks like.  ETBWHOalum, have you seen them much? Do you think they are deep? I saw the kid from Anoco scored 16 who transfered from Nichols.  There is some basketball royalty from that area.

etbualum

I have watched them practice a bit and watched them play pick up games. They will be pretty deep, especially at guard.  Last year we had maybe 5 guys that should not have been playing college basketball.  We dont have anyone on our team like that this year.  Our biggest weakness will be down low.  Chambers is the closest thing to a traditional post player we have.  He had 4 blocks in 20 minutes, but only 3 rebounds.  While he is long and gained weight over the off season, he is still under 200lbs.  I think our guards will rebound well but we may have to try to force teams to go small against us.  We can put a pretty tall team on the floor, but we do not have any Habeeb Kareem body types. 


Turnipseed is a kid they tried to get last year, but he went to Nichols and played a little bit.  He is a pretty solid kid, so we are happy to have him at ETBU. 

Ill catch the first game action this weekend against Jarvis Christian.  They are 2-0 but have played a very bad team and beat them by 40 the first game and then 50 the second. 

etbualum

For those interested

Checked in on Cedric Isom today. He is playing his second season for Thor AK of the Icelandic Exp League.  He was Guard of the year last year although his team lost in the first round of the playoffs.
Thru 6 games he is averaging 30.8ppg 8.3rpb 7.8apg.
His last game was a triple double 32pts 11rbs 13 assists.  Had a 47pt 9rb 8assist game earlier in the year.  His team is 3-3. 


Tried to check on the UMHB guy but they have yet to start their season. Fjolnir was relegated to a lower division this season.


noscholy

Bearkat - I do not agree with your assesment of NAIA.  A good D3 team cannot beat most NAIA schools.  For instance, LSUS would be a very tough game for anyone in our conference and they have can hardly get past the sweet 16.

Also, HBU did not BEAT UP ON the Red River Conference.  Undoubtedly they were a perenniel contender, but Texas Wesleyan just recently won the National Championship and several other teams give them fits every time they play.   

noscholy

Let me amend that.  A good D3 can certainly not beat ALL NAIA's.  The best D3 teams in the country may well beat every NAIA but I'm not so sure. 

Ralph Turner

Here are the results for D3 vs the world, including NAIA-1 (such as LSU-S) and NAIA-2, of which we have none in this part of the country.

2007-08; Post # 1003

2006-07; Post # 706

2005-06;  Post # 386

hoopstar

85-81, MC win at division one Alcorn State( who beat lousiana by 21 earlier this week). I would expect the choctaws to be very good again this year.  ;D

Walter17

Wow, I'm sure this has been discussed, and since I am a SCAC supporter, but how is MC so good every year.  Is it really because they get a bunch of solid junior college players every year?

etbualum

Quote from: hoopstar on November 10, 2008, 10:41:15 PM
85-81, MC win at division one Alcorn State( who beat lousiana by 21 earlier this week). I would expect the choctaws to be very good again this year.  ;D

Thats not a good sign for everyone else.

Quote from: Walter17 on November 11, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
Wow, I'm sure this has been discussed, and since I am a SCAC supporter, but how is MC so good every year.  Is it really because they get a bunch of solid junior college players every year?


They have a great coach, a school that really gets behind basketball, and they win a lot.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: etbualum on November 11, 2008, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: hoopstar on November 10, 2008, 10:41:15 PM
85-81, MC win at division one Alcorn State( who beat lousiana by 21 earlier this week). I would expect the choctaws to be very good again this year.  ;D

Thats not a good sign for everyone else.

Quote from: Walter17 on November 11, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
Wow, I'm sure this has been discussed, and since I am a SCAC supporter, but how is MC so good every year.  Is it really because they get a bunch of solid junior college players every year?


They have a great coach, a school that really gets behind basketball, and they win a lot.
And they know how to use the Mississippi JUCO system.  There is a strong tradition among the JUCOs and the Choctaws.  The JUCO coaches can trust Coaches Jones and Loftin to treat their players right!

Walter17

A solid "in" with the JUCO's is definitely a nice luxury to have year in and year out.  Do Mississippi JUCO's not place that many kids in DI or DII programs?  If it is so easy to accept junior college transfers, I wouldn't imagine MC's academic standards aren't the most difficult to recruit with.  I think that would be a clear advantage on today's recruiting scene.  Private schools such as Trinity and Southwestern (again, I'm more familiar with SCAC) have taken large hits due to increases in tuition, decreases in financial aid, and the obvious economic decline, while maintaining their academic standards.