MBB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Yeah, but doing it ASC-only will make it come out to .500 by definition. What I'm trying to do is get at how good the ASC is outside the conference, for which I need to do D3 only games. I could do it; I'm just not interested enough to do the work right now.

East versus West would be interesting.

[fcnews]

Thanks Walter. Since losing to them in the first round last year, I'm kind a interested in following them this season.

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph, Finnman: missed you two!

I'm with Ralph on the women, they really could be something if it all comes together. Allison Nelson is a joy to watch.

The men sound like they will be better. But well have to wait and see how they gel. Still, can't wait!

Hey jungle!

I think that the men will be all right.

They had runs of quality play against the team picked #3 in the Southland West Division. 

[#1ascfanman]

Josh Johnson is doing it again!
http://www.lcwildcats.net/

I  saw UMHB loses again, I guess that means no more top 25 for the conference.  This does not help us get any respect.  What do you think Ralph, you seem to be on top of things.

[Bearkat00]

Some updated stats from the LETU - Ouchiata game:  JJ Rockmore scored 23 points in the game as opposed to just 12pts.  Apparently they gave all his points to Smith, even though Smith was limited to just 3 minutes in the game.  Hopefully they can get all that information straightened out. 

Happy Thanksgiving all!

[thejungle]

Ralph, I had a blast last night...I was sitting down, watching live scoring on ESPN.com on my iphone.  Watched as McMurry pulled within 10 about 5 or 6 minutes to go.  It was awesome getting those live stats...Though I guess it's the only time this year we'll play a DI.  And to make it even better I ran into Finnman while we were at Abuelo's.

Brilliant!

[golden_dome]

Josh Johnson is doing it again!
http://www.lcwildcats.net/

I  saw UMHB loses again, I guess that means no more top 25 for the conference.  This does not help us get any respect.  What do you think Ralph, you seem to be on top of things.

I wouldn't worry about the Top 25 regarding respect. It's a great honor and Pat goes to great lengths to make sure he has very informed voters, but the bigger issue will be the two regional losses.

It's nice to see ASC teams in the poll but it's more important for the league to get two teams in the NCAA tournament and then win games in the tourney. In this part of the country teams usually can't have more than 4 regional losses and expect to get an at-large bid.  Two early losses leaves very little room for error from here on out.

[Ralph Turner]

I agree with Chris. (Thanks for jumping in Chris!)

Top 25 means we have a team that wins first two games in the playoffs!

I wasn't sure how good the ASC/SCAC was last year, but the UMHB that lost two games during the Abilene Death March lost a heartbreaker at Millsaps, which went on to make the Elite 8.

That being said, I think that the Top 25 from our part of the country at this time is Trinity.

Let's stay below the radar, because I think that is where we need to be, until we can get some teams working together.

Right now, I need to see how good UT-Dallas really is.  The ODAC is the best conference in the South and the Comets just handled Guilford last weekend.

I like what Coach Holmes has done to "right" his program at McMurry!  Miss College is always strong, and we in the ASC have 6-8 strong programs (Top 40- Top 100 Range).

(Sorry that this is late.  T'giving Day travel, and I just filled my gas tank for $20.00!  Yep! $1.499 in Lubbock!     

[CUAfan]

Pace figures so far this season, sorted fastest to slowest:

1. Concordia-Texas, 90.8
2. Hardin-Simmons, 78.2
3. East Texas Baptist, 77.9
4. McMurry, 77.5
5. Howard Payne, 75.4
League Average, 74.9
6. Texas Lutheran, 74.7
7. Schreiner, 74.5
8. Ozarks, 74.2
9. Mary Hardin-Baylor, 74.1
10. Sul Ross State, 73.5
11. Louisiana College, 71.3
12. LeTourneau, 71.3
13. Texas-Tyler, 69.7
14. Mississippi College, 69.7
15. Texas-Dallas, 67.3

[golden_dome]

Well, HSU returned the favor. The MC women upset the Cowgirls in the opener, but the HSU men pulled the upset in the men's game. HSU wins 88-82 over the Choctaws.

[kid nice]

giving up 88 points and 15 3-pointers. Here's an idea:  PLAY SOME DEFENSE!

The only problem I see with getting all of the JUCO kids is they play a much different game in that league than the do in the ASC and D3.  It takes a while for them to adjust but in D3 with so little at large bids you don't really have that much time.  I know Coach Lofton will get them there but I thought we might be in trouble with only a 4 pt win over a winless Sewanee team.  Once again before I go, PLAY SOME DEFENSE!

[etbualum]

ETBU beat HPU last night by 10.  This coming after dropping a close one to Sul Ross.

Tigers will be at home this week against UMHB saturday and CTX on Monday

[Bearkat00]

Nice road trip for LETU to go 2-0 at two tough places to play due to the amount of travel and the timing of the trip.  This is the first time that LETU has won both road games against these two teams:

06/07 - Lost to HPU by 33 and SRSU by 14 (WENT TO PLAYOFFS)
04/05 - Lost to HPU by 18 and SRSU by 13
02/03 - Lost to HPU by 32 and SRSU by 21
00/01 - Lost to HPU by 21 and Won at SRSU by 8

In the win against Sul Ross, the one thing that jumps out to me - 6 for 18 - this stat is SRSU's FT/FTA.  In both wins, free throws played a role in the Jackets win, as the Jackets shot 70% (14/20) versus 33% (6/18) for the Lobos.  In the HPU game, the Jackets shot 68% (13/19) versus HPU's 50% (3/6).  While Vanwright has been an amazing addition, the play of JJ Rockmore can not be overlooked.  Hopefully the stats will be updated this week, but he is avg.  16.8 ppg and has shot the ball very well.   

[SabineBBall]

I expected UTD to get more support in the new poll.  They still have less points in others receiving points than the 2 teams they beat (Guilford and UMHB).  Good thing about polls is you can debate them all day long lol

[golden_dome]

giving up 88 points and 15 3-pointers. Here's an idea:  PLAY SOME DEFENSE!

The only problem I see with getting all of the JUCO kids is they play a much different game in that league than the do in the ASC and D3.  It takes a while for them to adjust but in D3 with so little at large bids you don't really have that much time.  I know Coach Lofton will get them there but I thought we might be in trouble with only a 4 pt win over a winless Sewanee team.  Once again before I go, PLAY SOME DEFENSE!

Don't know if that has much to do with it. In 2006-07, we either led the nation in scoring defense or field goal percentage defense and four of the starters were JUCO, also 7 of the top 10 players. This team will be good  but there are going to be some growing pains with so many new kids.