MBB: American Southwest Conference

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Ralph Turner


ex-jacket

As an ex-player and personal friend to the Pattillo family I am very upset of what has happened over the past month with this situation.  I won't go into details but there is more to this story than what will be put out into the open.  All I want to say is that it was a witch hunt not a retirement.

Coach Pattillo is a great Christian man and has more class than everybody in that athletic department combined!

Since that new AD has taken over there has only been two programs that have been successful at HPU and one of them is the men's basketball program.  Just read the release.

How come there are no quotes in that release from the AD?

I am sorry Pat if this goes a little far, I won't get into much more details.

etbualum

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2008, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: pistol pete 22 on December 03, 2008, 07:00:26 PM
Thats a horrible arguement. I like the way it is. There arent enough games to play everyone twice. You just gotta be able to win some games on the road.  If LC was 2-0 im sure you wouldnt be saying that. My Comets are 2-0 though so i cant complain!

I posted that this year because we are playing better, and therefore it doesn't help us.

I contend that a single round-robin in this conference is not equitable for determining the divisional champ.  This year, it looks like that avoiding the Abilene road may be the key in the final ASC-East standings.

My preference is to split the conference in half, East and West.  Once split, then sign a contract between the conferences that assures sufficient games to fill the schedules for 10 years.  I know that the function of the 20/21-game conference basketball schedule is to provide games now.  (Trust me, the numbers show that it hurts us when trying to get seeding in the NCAA's.)

I want to split the conference so we can get more Pool A bids.  Imagine this.  If the ASC-East had 7 members in Volleyball and M/W Tennis and became its own league, after two years as a provisional conference, the ASC-East would get its own Pool A bids in M/W Soccer, M/W Hoops, M/W Tennis, Baseball, Softball and Volleyball.

FACT:  No ASC-East women's basketball team has played an NCAA playoff game since the Pool system was begun in 1999!  If the ASC-East were its own conference, then the winner would have had a Pool A bid.

If the coaches feel the games should count  I would rather see a couple neutral site crossover tourneys.  Softball and Volleyball have done it in the past.  It takes out the advantage of home court and could be a nice showcase for the conference in the metroplex or somewhere around there.  I just dont like the idea of home court advantage without the return game.

ASCfan237

12/4
UTT over HSU...I doubt their ability to make 15 3pointers again in a game.
SU over LC..... Toss up
UTD over SRSU...Easy win for UTD
UO over HPU....hard to beat UO when they are at home.

12/6
MC over SU...easy win puts them back on track
ETBU over UMHB...upset pick, UMHB still cant get it all together
UO over SRSU...UO at home
UTD over HPU...Easy win to push UTD to 4-0
MCM over UTT...MCM size is too much for UTT
LeT over CUA...LeT depth is enough to outlast Concordia's style of play
LC over TLU...LC wins because they are at home

12/8
LeT over UMHB...Will UMHB start 1-3???
CUA over ETBU...tough pick but I have Concordia
MC over TLU...Easy win, MC back to 2-2


East-  UTD will still be undefeated along with LeT
West- McMurry remains on top


gccfan

Would love to watch the LETU-CTX game this week.  Those two teams have played three straight overtime games with the Jackets winning twice, but the Tornados winning last year. 

JACKET84

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2008, 12:07:35 PM
Farewell to Coach Pattillo

Coach Patillo is a class act.  There's not a finer person to be coaching young men.  It just seems strange for this to take place during the season.  There has to be more to it than just retirement.

Bearkat00

Quote from: JACKET84 on December 05, 2008, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2008, 12:07:35 PM
Farewell to Coach Pattillo

Coach Patillo is a class act.  There's not a finer person to be coaching young men.  It just seems strange for this to take place during the season.  There has to be more to it than just retirement.

So this takes place immediatley or will he finish the season.  The article was very confusing.  I assumed it was b/c of the 0'fer start, but I figured there was a lot of talent on that team that it just was going to take some time to gel together. 

ASCfan237

3-1 on last nights picks..not too bad. All the East teams won last night.

Which side East or West does everyone think is better currently?
I'd say it is hard to argue that the East isn't better right now. Even with MC playing bad they have three undefeated teams left....If Tyler beats McMurry on Saturday this thing could get interesting, UTD and LeT are both going to win.

Ralph Turner

Going into this weekend...

UT-Dallas
UT-Tyler
HSU
McM
MissCollege
UMHB
LaCollege
LeTU

I think that 5 of the top 8 are ASC-East

pedh34

3-1 on my picks so far I should have gone with UTT to win that game. I thought UTT would win that game just wanted them to lose. I think if Anthony Reese has another bad game Monday they will lose to MCM. Does anyone know any information on the Howard Payne coach retiring is this effective immediately?

Bearkat00

Looks like UT-Dallas is the real deal this year.  Similiar to what they did a few years ago when they started the season off very strong.  Has anyone seen them play?  Are they the real deal?  It's weird to look at the standings and see MC down at the bottom. 

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Bearkat00 on December 05, 2008, 05:38:03 PM
Looks like UT-Dallas is the real deal this year.  Similiar to what they did a few years ago when they started the season off very strong.  Has anyone seen them play?  Are they the real deal?  It's weird to look at the standings and see MC down at the bottom. 
They are good.  They handled a good Guilford team before T'day and then ran away from SRSU after a sluggish first half last night.

ex-jacket

Quote from: JACKET84 on December 05, 2008, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2008, 12:07:35 PM
Farewell to Coach Pattillo

Coach Patillo is a class act.  There's not a finer person to be coaching young men.  It just seems strange for this to take place during the season.  There has to be more to it than just retirement.

Read my post from above.  It was a force out led by a man that has no business around kids and especially athletics.  I don't want to be banned from this site so I won't go too far.  The AD has ruined that athletic department.

Notice there were no comments by the AD in the release ???  How can news like this not be released by the AD. 

Pattillo is a great man with great values.  HPU made a huge mistake by this!!!

dballa

The retirement takes effect immediately.  He hasn't coached a game this year.  The 0'fer has nothing to do with the retirement.  Other factors do unfortunately.  

I've known Coach P and his family for almost 20 yrs, he's a great guy, a great Christian, and someone I've learned a lot from on and off the court.  I know I'll miss shaking his hand before the games wishing him and the team good luck.

dballa

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