D3 vs. NAIA

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Quote from: Hawks88 on September 13, 2006, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 12, 2006, 12:27:40 AM
Week #3

D3   Greenville   vs   NAIA   Taylor IN

NAIA   Shorter   vs   D3   LaGrange
NAIA   Azusa Pacific   vs   D3   UW-Whitewater

I like the chances of LaGrange vs. first year program Shorter.  We can see what difference scholarships make, if any.  (I also believe that any margin under 17 points is rough parity at this point as well.)


This is actually Shorter's second season. They were 3-7 last year and 1-1 so far this season.

Boink!  My bad!  Thanks Hawks!  Brevard is the first-year team that is D-2 Provisional. :-\

Foss

Ralph, thanks for keeping track of these games again this season.

Unless it has been discussed on another thread, I'm surprised there has not been more talk about this Saturday's UW-Whitewater vs. NAIA #9 Azusa Pacific contest (although it is mentioned in this week's ATN). We all know what UWW did last year and is expected to do this season, and Azusa has consistently been regarded as a pretty tough team. They (Azusa) have given 4-time NAIA champ Carroll College a couple of really good scares during their reign atop of that division.

By the way, how about UWW's schedule this year? Even with Mary Hardin-Baylor's early season loss, the Warhawks have to be playing one of the most difficult schedules in DIII. In addition to playing everyone in the tough WIAC, they collide with a top ten NAIA school (Azusa) and then travel down to Texas to play UMHB late in the year. Wow!
A packed student section behind an end zone cheering on guys they will actually see in class on Monday is almost as cool as The Streak.

Ralph Turner

Foss, I think that UMHB finishes at least 7-3 in-region, and UW-W is in (administative)region #4 with UMHB.  That can become a 15 point win.

I think that Azusa is a perfect game for UWW.  You play 9 in-region games.  A hard a time as you have filling a schedule, I will concede an Azusa Pacific (NAIA) game.  Azusa is willing to play anyone as well!

Good luck!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 12, 2006, 12:27:40 AM
Week #3

D3   Greenville 0   vs   NAIA   Taylor IN 13

NAIA   Shorter   54            vs            D3   LaGrange 0
NAIA   Azusa Pacific 7   vs   D3   UW-Whitewater 27


D3 1, NAIA 2 in Week #3;  D3 11, NAIA 6 on the season.

Ralph Turner

Week #4


D3   UW-La Crosse   at   NAIA   Azusa Pacific
D3   Howard Payne   at   NAIA   Paul Quinn
D3   UW-River Falls   at   NAIA   St Francis IN
D3   Austin College   at   NAIA   SW Assemblies of God

NAIA   Southern Virginia*   vs   D3   Greensboro

Southern Virginia is not competing in the NAIA playoffs in 2006.

K-Mack

Or 2007 or 2008, etc.

Are they or are they not an NAIA-classified team?

According to VSN, they are, and I think they are listed on their own website that way, but I realize that doesn't eliminate all doubts.
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Ralph Turner

#111
D3   UW-La Crosse   at   NAIA   Azusa Pacific --  wins 27-10
D3   Howard Payne   at   NAIA   Paul Quinn  wins 16-9
D3   UW-River Falls   at   NAIA   St Francis IN  loses 8-63
D3   Austin College   at   NAIA   SW Assemblies of God -- wins 7-0

NAIA   Southern Virginia*   vs   D3   Greensboro  -- G'boro wins 17-16

Also, one game that I overlooked...

D3 UW-Stevens Point  at  NAIA Waldorf IA --  wins 45-7.

D3 goes 5-1 on the week, and is now 16-7 on the season.


Ralph Turner

Week #5...

D3 UW-Stevens Point             at         NAIA  Trinity International


NAIA Azusa Pacific                   at          D3 Whitworth

K-Mack

Starting to run away with it. Drop the So. Va. and it's still 14-7 with significant wins over Geneva, Azusa x 2, etc. and a hardcore beatdown from St. Francis (Ind.)
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repete

Perhap this is why Jason D's NAIA site doesn't track this anymore. In fact, the No. 1 d3 basher (of many) on his boards was from the Dakota Conference, which is 0-3 vs. d3 this season.

And two of those wins were vs. the DAC's top teams ...


K-Mack

Quote from: repete on September 25, 2006, 02:53:34 AM
Perhap this is why Jason D's NAIA site doesn't track this anymore.

That and it doesn't prove anything ... Either side can argue its way out of a lot of results, like "just because this team beat this team doesn't mean this divison is better than that one." Or "you have more teams." Or "those teams aren't representative of the whole division." Or "Yeah, but Carroll would beat Mount Union."

I think it's good for our readers to know who isn't playing D3 teams and if they have some sort of standing in NAIA when we do play them.

There are some people who don't deal with facts and/or have their minds made up before the discussion begins (Dude, we'd totally smoke Grand Valley!) ... but for the most part I track it because it's a small education on who these other teams are.
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 24, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
Week #5...

D3 UW-Stevens Point       35       at         NAIA  Trinity International  0


NAIA Azusa Pacific        14           at          D3 Whitworth   17

D3 goes 2-0 this week and is now 18-7 on the season.

There are no "D3 vs. NAIA" games next week.

Ralph Turner

Week #7:

NAIA Southern Oregon at Linfield

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 09, 2006, 01:40:31 AM
Week #7:

NAIA Southern Oregon  29  at Linfield  37

D3 19 games, NAIA 7 games.

Week #8

D3   Frostburg St   at   NAIA   Union KY

K-Mack

Cool. We have the same thing.

Course it's easy to keep up with one game every two weeks :)
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