WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[hope1]

nice job hope girls and to coach mo for getting his 300  win saturday it was nice to watch keep it going

[sac]

As hope1 said Brian Morehouse reached win #300 Saturday, I'm sure this picture is hanging somewhere in the Morehouse office or household.



Those girls were really excited.

[oldknight]

Today's Sentinel summarizes tonight's matchup between Hope and Adrian. Among other things it lists "Key Players."

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x497799554/TIPOFF-Flying-Dutch-play-at-Adrian

Apparently being the leading scorer, rebounder and shot blocker on your team isn't enough to be listed as a Key Player.

[sac]

Today's Sentinel summarizes tonight's matchup between Hope and Adrian. Among other things it lists "Key Players."

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x497799554/TIPOFF-Flying-Dutch-play-at-Adrian

Apparently being the leading scorer, rebounder and shot blocker on your team isn't enough to be listed as a Key Player.

She's been slumping?

[oldknight]

Today's Sentinel summarizes tonight's matchup between Hope and Adrian. Among other things it lists "Key Players."

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x497799554/TIPOFF-Flying-Dutch-play-at-Adrian

Apparently being the leading scorer, rebounder and shot blocker on your team isn't enough to be listed as a Key Player.

She's been slumping?

In part because of her outrageous talent, Carrie does have a tendency to coast when the opponent isn't challenging her or her team. But I have seen her play a lot and can tell you that she has often bailed out her team when the game was close and the hour was late.

[WWWRHH]

A busy work schedule has kept me away from the board for a while, but I am going to make time to put my 2 cents in on this topic.

oldknight, I do not know the Sentinel's process for selecting the "key players" for each game.  However, it is always four players so one starter is left out each game and this time it is Carrie.  However, I wouldn't get too excited about the oversight, and intentional or not there is a certain logic to emphasizing the importance of performances from the rest of the team.

Carrie had two monster games against Cornerstone and St. Mary's.  The Cornerstone game almost slipped away and the St. Mary's game did.  But when she scored 2 against Carthage, 6 vs. Calvin, and 0 in the last game (Olivet) the Dutch managed to win each game with ease due to strong performances from several team mates.

Everyone knows what Snikkers is capable of doing on a given night, but to be successful in the Hope system the team needs balance.  Carrie is not super woman and can be slowed if the oppositon devotes enough effort to doing so.  The rest of the players need to step up and take advantage of the attention she draws from opposing teams, and Snikkers must recognize how to take advantage of the situation.

The Calvin game was a good example.  Calvin packed the zone in tight and Cowen lit it up from the outside.  Greene and Kopke also bettered their scoring averages.  As soon as Calvin tried to switch to "man", Carrie posted up and reminded them why that wasn't a good idea. At the other end, Knox and Bruinsma's ability to guard Van Eck on the perimeter took away the Knights best scoring option.  (Just a side note....Knox's success in guarding smaller forwards has been a pleasant surprise.)

Rather, than Carrie slumping or coasting I think she is beginning to learn how to play within the system, take what comes her way and be content when the team succeeds.  Her unselfishness in the last few games shows she understands how to make her team stronger and I am sure she is a lot less concerned with what the newspapers say than any of the posters on this board.

Moving on to an old topic....

I could point to a number of "reasons" for the St. Mary's loss - ticky tack reffing, long lay off, "lucky" shots and Geers injury causing disruption to the rotation.  However, there also seemed to be a lack of intensity, the killer instinct needed to put away a dangerous opponent early was missing, and there may have been an over reliance on Snikkers to carry the team.  Although going undefeated is always a goal, I think that defeat refocused the team.   The Dutch are playing thier best basketball of the season and I look forward to the rematch on the 31st.

[fannie]

Can some one help me understand the "substitution time-outs" that Coach Morehouse uses.....are these charged as "time-outs", when can he use them, is this a new rule? 

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Can some one help me understand the "substitution time-outs" that Coach Morehouse uses.....are these charged as "time-outs", when can he use them, is this a new rule? 

This is really nothing new.  Coaches can use a timeout (one of their alloted timeouts) to simply put in substitutes.  It's a method of stopping the clock so the substitutions can be made.   It's typically only used at toward the end of a game which is a blowout, and the coach is trying to get as much playing time as possible for his players.

[WWWRHH]

The St. Mary's - Hope game is the biggest MIAA game of the season, and the Dutch's most important conference game since the tourney championship against Calvin in '06.

The Belles beat the Dutch in the first meeting, but subsquently lost to Albion leaving the teams tied with a conference record of 8-1.  The winner is likely to have home court advantage throughout the conference tournament.

Although comp scores since the loss indicate that Hope should be able to win comfortably own their on floor I expect it to be another tough game.  St. Mary's comes closest to having the (skilled) size to match up with Snikkers, Knox, Bruinsma,et. al, and their big players have a nice outside touch which can stretch Hope's defense.

And defense will be the key.  In the first game St. Mary's scored 91 - 35 more than the average opponent. 

The Hope starters played much of the game in foul (19 total) trouble  and played an ineffective zone for much of the second half in order to keep their scorers on the floor.  They were not able to generate ball pressure and St. Mary's found the gaps and hit some jumpers.

I expect Hope to be better prepared if they have to go to a zone, get called for far fewer fouls, and win by double digits.  However, the Belles will come prepared and the game will be hard fought.

A big crowd like last Saturday wouldn't hurt.  Hopefully a lot of fans will attend both games and help cheer the women to victory.

[oldknight]

I only saw the last part of St. Mary's overtime win over Calvin last night (the Lady Knights' third OT game at VanNoord this month), and I will be very surprised if the Belles come away from DeVos with a victory Saturday. Admittedly I didn't see a lot on which to base an opinion, but the Hope women clearly are have a more talented group than does St. Mary's.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

A big crowd like last Saturday wouldn't hurt.  Hopefully a lot of fans will attend both games and help cheer the women to victory.

I suspect the crowd will be a good size - lots of people looking forward to this rematch.  Heck the JV game will even help, as they will be playing against a Hope alum team that includes at least 4 of the starters for the 06 National Cahampionship team (Bria Ebels, Linda Ebels Phillips, Julie Henderson, Jordyn Boles)

[Erm Schmigget]

A big crowd like last Saturday wouldn't hurt.  Hopefully a lot of fans will attend both games and help cheer the women to victory.

I suspect the crowd will be a good size - lots of people looking forward to this rematch.  Heck the JV game will even help, as they will be playing against a Hope alum team that includes at least 4 of the starters for the 06 National Cahampionship team (Bria Ebels, Linda Ebels Phillips, Julie Henderson, Jordyn Boles)

Here's a little incentive for coming to the games tomorrow:

Someone very dear to me is sponsoring (via her business) the women's game.  This means in part that you could be one of several lucky winners of an item produced by her business.  The only question for you is, what does her business produce?  Come to the game and find out.  (No, she is not a jeweler.)

[hope1]

yes i   hope that is a lot of people for the girls game to watch the old players play the jv at  1.00  and stay after to watch the men play at  7.30  please fill the devoss

[oldknight]

I took in Hope's easy 84-59 win this afternoon over St. Mary's.  Snikkers immediately set the pace for this game by scoring 9 points in the first four and half minutes of play and grabbing several rebounds. She and Knox established themeselves on the interior all game and pretty much swept the boards. Cowen played her usual hard nosed, high octane style of ball, hitting a pair of threes about midway through the half to open up a comfortable lead, and the Belles never challenged. The second half saw more of the same and St. Mary's was never in this one. At one point, Hope led 68-32, before Morehouse called off the hounds. Snikkers led with 21 and 10, and Cowen added 15, going 3-6 from behind the arc.

[sac]

It should be pointed out St. Mary's was missing a couple girls in this one, most noteably Nichole Beier who put 25 up the first time, and also starter Erin Newsome who scored 14 the first time.  Both go 6-2, 6-0.

They were alot more shorthanded than I thought even at the game.

With that said, Hope was pretty sharp for most of the game.   Philana Green had 0 points and Hope won by 25.  That says something.


A rematch in the MIAA tournament with both at full strength would be nice to see.