WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Preto]

All MIAA teams announced - Verkaik is named the MVP.

http://www.miaa.org/wbb/

I'm more than a little surprised to see only two Hope women on the All-MIAA team ... what am I missing here? Seems like all five Dutch starters (as well as a few off the bench) would start on any other MIAA team.  

All-MIAA First Team
Philana Greene, Hope
Anna Kammrath, Saint Mary's
Melissa Shaw, Albion
Carrie Snikkers, Hope
Brook Van Eck, Calvin
Carissa Verkaik, Calvin

All-MIAA Second Team
Sydney Beckwith, Alma
Kelley Murphy, Saint Mary's
Jennifer Perrin, Adrian
Danielle Senf, Trine
Anita Stamps, Adrian
Olivia Yarrell, Olivet

[ChicagoHopeNut]

All MIAA teams announced - Verkaik is named the MVP.

http://www.miaa.org/wbb/

I'm more than a little surprised to see only two Hope women on the All-MIAA team ... what am I missing here? Seems like all five Dutch starters (as well as a few off the bench) would start on any other MIAA team.  

All-MIAA First Team
Philana Greene, Hope
Anna Kammrath, Saint Mary's
Melissa Shaw, Albion
Carrie Snikkers, Hope
Brook Van Eck, Calvin
Carissa Verkaik, Calvin

All-MIAA Second Team
Sydney Beckwith, Alma
Kelley Murphy, Saint Mary's
Jennifer Perrin, Adrian
Danielle Senf, Trine
Anita Stamps, Adrian
Olivia Yarrell, Olivet

Only two from Calvin as well. Looks like every team except Kzoo is represented. Similar to old discussions on the men's board I think there is an unstated (even subconscious) desire to see the best player from each team represented on all-conference teams.

[sac]

All MIAA teams announced - Verkaik is named the MVP.

http://www.miaa.org/wbb/

I'm more than a little surprised to see only two Hope women on the All-MIAA team ... what am I missing here? Seems like all five Dutch starters (as well as a few off the bench) would start on any other MIAA team. 

That may or may not be the case.  I think most likely the Hope women don't have the stats like the other women do because they play fewer minutes per game in Morehouse's system.  Not a single Hope player made the most minutes played list for the conference season.  http://miaa.org/wbb/stats/0910/confonly.htm ........in fact you'll find very few Hope players in many of the individual stat leaders categories.

In MIAA play

Greene 21.4 min
Snikkers 17.4
Bruinsma 19.1
Ellis 18.8
Cowen 19.2

[realist]

A stat comparison of St. Norbert and Calvin. (realist - not sure these would indicate the Green Knights pressure the ball more than Hope)  I predict Calvin will win this game by 5

Thanks FDF.  I did an abbreviated version of your sheet before I came to my conclusion.  This is confirmed by Coach Ross in an interview on Calvin's website that St. Norbert plays a 4 and 1 game.  Actually it sounded just an awful lot like Hope, but not the inside game Hope can play.  
We both know how Calvin did against Hope defense so playing a team with even 80 or 90% of Hope's defensive game could prove to be a problem.  The leading shoot blocker on St. Noprbert is listed as a guard, and they have a sizeable steal margin.
Like you I think Calvin is more than capable of playing a great game, and a key in that is protecting the ball and getting into the half court game.

I think Calvin has a very good. competitive D3 team, but I think Hope is just at another level.  

[Flying Dutch Fan]

A stat comparison of St. Norbert and Calvin.  (realist - not sure these would indicate the Green Knights pressure the ball more than Hope)  I predict Calvin will win this game by 5

Thanks FDF.  I did an abbreviated version of your sheet before I came to my conclusion.  This is confirmed by Coach Ross in an interview on Calvin's website that St. Norbert plays a 4 and 1 game.  Actually it sounded just an awful lot like Hope, but not the inside game Hope can play. 
We both know how Calvin did against Hope defense so playing a team with even 80 or 90% of Hope's defensive game could prove to be a problem.  The leading shoot blocker on St. Noprbert is listed as a guard, and they have a sizeable steal margin.
Like you I think Calvin is more than capable of playing a great game, and a key in that is protecting the ball and getting into the half court game.

I think Calvin has a very good. competitive D3 team, but I think Hope is just at another level.   

Can't disagree with you on any point.  I wonder how much Hope's dominant teams over the last few years have affected the perception of the MIAA as a whole. 

[realist]

I think there are quite a few teams that are very glad they did not have to worry about being bracketed with Hope.  With Calvin making the tournament this year, and everyone reading that 3 of Calvin's 4 losses were against Hope pretty much tells everyone how good Hope must really be.  Yah, like they missed the 27-1 record, and high national ranking.
Just looking at some of the rosters of teams in the tournament it strikes me that few teams can match up with Hope's size, and even fewer with Hope's depth.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Here is a stat comparison for the first game at DeVos on Friday.

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
DePauw	44.9	36.5	71.3
Lakeland	39.1	30	67.6
Defense	% 2pt	% 3pt
DePauw	37	29.7
Lakeland	40.9	29.9
Rebounding	Team	Opp	Margin
DePauw	45.3	28.2	17.1
Lakeland	38.3	38.2	0.1
Scoring	Team	Opp	Margin
DePauw	72.3	50.5	21.8
Lakeland	63.4	54.3	9.1
3 point shooting	Attempts	Made	Made/game
DePauw	446	163	5.8
Lakeland	337	101	3.6
Blocks	Total	per game
DePauw	60	2.1
Lakeland	60	2.1
Steals	Total	per game
DePauw	278	9.9
Lakeland	394	14.1
Turnovers	Total	per game
DePauw	393	14
Lakeland	470	16.8
Assists	Total	per game
DePauw	401	14.3
Lakeland	333	11.9
Assist/Turnover
DePauw	1.02
Lakeland	0.71

[ziggy]

Looks like a video feed will be available for the Knights/Green Knights matchup:
http://www.calvin.edu/sports/womens/basketball/

[KNIGHTRHOPE]

All MIAA teams announced - Verkaik is named the MVP.

http://www.miaa.org/wbb/

I'm more than a little surprised to see only two Hope women on the All-MIAA team ... what am I missing here? Seems like all five Dutch starters (as well as a few off the bench) would start on any other MIAA team. 

That may or may not be the case.  I think most likely the Hope women don't have the stats like the other women do because they play fewer minutes per game in Morehouse's system.  Not a single Hope player made the most minutes played list for the conference season.  http://miaa.org/wbb/stats/0910/confonly.htm ........in fact you'll find very few Hope players in many of the individual stat leaders categories.

In MIAA play

Greene 21.4 min
Snikkers 17.4
Bruinsma 19.1
Ellis 18.8
Cowen 19.2

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Anyone recall if there is a women's preview like the men's preview posted on the front page? As I recall there usually is. I know there is still time, just curious.

[sumfun]

I'm sure there will be as in other years, but the women don't start until tomorrow so should be up today or tomorrow morning.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

I'm sure there will be as in other years, but the women don't start until tomorrow so should be up today or tomorrow morning.

Thanks. That had been my vague recollection but I wasn't certain.

[dumexrules]

All MIAA teams announced - Verkaik is named the MVP.

http://www.miaa.org/wbb/

I'm more than a little surprised to see only two Hope women on the All-MIAA team ... what am I missing here? Seems like all five Dutch starters (as well as a few off the bench) would start on any other MIAA team. 

That may or may not be the case.  I think most likely the Hope women don't have the stats like the other women do because they play fewer minutes per game in Morehouse's system.  Not a single Hope player made the most minutes played list for the conference season.  http://miaa.org/wbb/stats/0910/confonly.htm ........in fact you'll find very few Hope players in many of the individual stat leaders categories.

In MIAA play

Greene 21.4 min
Snikkers 17.4
Bruinsma 19.1
Ellis 18.8
Cowen 19.2

I think the league coaches are more than able to overlook stats in selecting an all-league team...it is more likely that each team be represented...having watched quite a few games...the players representing each school would more than likely start on every other team in the league...(I do think that Hope has more 2nd teamers that would start on many other teams...Miranda DeKuiper comes to mind.)

[Pat Coleman]

I'm sure there will be as in other years, but the women don't start until tomorrow so should be up today or tomorrow morning.

Thanks. That had been my vague recollection but I wasn't certain.

Yes, in previous years because the women started first I rolled the women's preview out on Wednesday. This year, there's no Wednesday game so the order is flopped.

[Hwbb]

I'm sure there will be as in other years, but the women don't start until tomorrow so should be up today or tomorrow morning.

Thanks. That had been my vague recollection but I wasn't certain.

Yes, in previous years because the women started first I rolled the women's preview out on Wednesday. This year, there's no Wednesday game so the order is flopped.

And so now the preview is out. Pat, as an observer of all things D3 and without the one-team biases of most of us, I'd be very interested in how you'd answer your own big question posed in the "Illinois Wesleyan" bracket: "Is it possible for one team to host all the way through to the national championship game? Hope didn't have the chance to do that either of the past two years, once because the men were hosting and last year because of the dreaded geographic proximity clause. If the Titans escape the first weekend, will they be sent on the road and required to earn their way back home?"

What do you think: Should IWU--or any team, for that matter, men or women--be able to play for a national championship without ever leaving its home court?

Of course, we'd also be happy to hear the views of Mr. Ypsi on this one... :-)