WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Mr. Ypsi]

WashU beat George Fox, so you'll probably have to compete for home court advantage in terms of fans (they also played at Shirk, though back in November).  I'd suspect that Amherst and Rochester will have fairly limited crowd support.

Beat the drums for fans!  St. Louis is closer (AND we've been playing both men and women every year AT LEAST once, often twice, so locals may favor them.  IF Hope and WashU meet in the final, you've got your work cut out to turn the Shirk into home turf!

OK, livestats said Snikkers finished with 21 and 12.

[pointlem]

Sometimes great teams have a margin of error for cold shooting, and so it seemed both nights this weekend, with 4 of 21 and then 2 of 16 three-point shooting, while tonight facing a player who shot 15 of 17 (so that's what it felt like to play against Carissa Verkaik's 18 of 20, earlier this season).  If you'd told me Hope would end the game with those stats, I would have presumed a loss.  Happily, the rest of their game was terrific, and, yes, OldKnight, they were "Carried" this weekend.  

Now if their long-range shooting (which has been up and down this season) can return, they should have a good shot at playing at 3 p.m. next Saturday.  This team, with its athleticism and evident joy, has been such a pleasure to watch this season.  How fitting that they have the opportunity to play in a Final Four.

[oldknight]

WashU beat George Fox, so you'll probably have to compete for home court advantage in terms of fans (they also played at Shirk, though back in November).  I'd suspect that Amherst and Rochester will have fairly limited crowd support.

Beat the drums for fans!  St. Louis is closer (AND we've been playing both men and women every year AT LEAST once, often twice, so locals may favor them.  IF Hope and WashU meet in the final, you've got your work cut out to turn the Shirk into home turf!

OK, livestats said Snikkers finished with 21 and 12.

Thanks to Ypsi.

I suspect the Hope faithful are feeling better about the hand dealt them by the NCAA. Not only do the Dutch have two games under their belt at the Final Four site, they also got the better of the draw playing unranked Rochester in the semifinal. The two teams have a common opponent--Chicago--a squad I saw lose to Hope by 19 in December. Rochester split with the Maroons beating them in OT at home while losing in the Windy City.

[oldknight]

Statistics can be misleading. Some posters have wondered what Snikkers could do if she played a full game. It's not so much how good your overall stats look in comparison to others--it when you score the points and grab the rebounds that help your team win. In the second half of the two biggest games of the year, playing the best D3 has to offer, Carrie's stat line include the following:

33 points, 18 rebounds, in 30 minutes of PT.

Those offensive stats don't include the dominance she showed on defense. Her counterparts in those games (LaVigna and Averkamp) had a combined two-game total of 2 points and 9 rebounds in 42 minutes.

[AlwaysHope]

In looking at the box scores, did the Pointers just run out of gas toward the end of the game?  Especially since several of them saw extensive minutes in the Friday night game when they  looked exhaused.

Against Hope three different Pointers played 36, 37, and 39 minutes, while only 6 other players saw any action, including two players with only 4 and 8 minutes of action.  By contrast , Brian had 10 players in the game, all who saw action in double digits, while Carrie had the most minutes with 29.  A huge discrepancy in playing time and resting your starters.

(One exception to this was Petersen, who had 30 points in 37 minutes, and still was making her shots at the end.)

Finally, the starting guard for the Pointers (Windt) had only 8 minutes.  Did she get injured?

[mark_reichert]

WashU beat George Fox, so you'll probably have to compete for home court advantage in terms of fans (they also played at Shirk, though back in November).  I'd suspect that Amherst and Rochester will have fairly limited crowd support.

Beat the drums for fans!  St. Louis is closer (AND we've been playing both men and women every year AT LEAST once, often twice, so locals may favor them.  IF Hope and WashU meet in the final, you've got your work cut out to turn the Shirk into home turf!

I suspect the Hope faithful are feeling better about the hand dealt them by the NCAA. Not only do the Dutch have two games under their belt at the Final Four site, they also got the better of the draw playing unranked Rochester in the semifinal. The two teams have a common opponent--Chicago--a squad I saw lose to Hope by 19 in December. Rochester split with the Maroons beating them in OT at home while losing in the Windy City.

I have to point out that the unranked Rochester just beat the #2 Kean.  Obviously the rankings were wrong or Kean had a bad day.

[AlwaysHope]

Statistics can be misleading. Some posters have wondered what Snikkers could do if she played a full game. It's not so much how good your overall stats look in comparison to others--it when you score the points and grab the rebounds that help your team win. In the second half of the two biggest games of the year, playing the best D3 has to offer, Carrie's stat line include the following:

33 points, 18 rebounds, in 30 minutes of PT.

Those offensive stats don't include the dominance she showed on defense. Her counterparts in those games (LaVigna and Averkamp) had a combined two-game total of 2 points and 9 rebounds in 42 minutes.

Carrie also got Averkamp in foul trouble, forcing her to sit much of the first half, and also getting her to foul out eventually.  In fact, the Pointers' coach was livid following the second call after Carrie was driving to the hoop.

[sac]

I didn't get to see this game but a couple things caught my eye in the play by play.

It looks like the two biggest baskets for Hope came at 2:06, a 3 by PG Liz Ellis.......noteworthy because it was just the 2nd basket in over 12 minutes not scored by Carrie Snikkers.  Carrie had made 7 of Hope 8 previous FG's.........the other was by Ellis 5 minutes earlier.  It was also the first Hope 3 since Jenny Cowen's 3 minutes into the game, the Dutch had missed 14 in a row until that shot.

.....and at 1:33 a jumper by Jenny Cowen which gave Hope the 8 point cushion and eventual victory.  Cowen hadn't scored a basket in over 36 minutes of game time and had missed 9 shots in a row.

[gordonmann]

I have to point out that the unranked Rochester just beat the #2 Kean.  Obviously the rankings were wrong or Kean had a bad day.]I have to point out that the unranked Rochester just beat the #2 Kean.  Obviously the rankings were wrong or Kean had a bad day.

Could be a little of both.  But it didn't help Kean that its All American, Melissa Beyrutti, could only play 13 minutes in the entire tournament (five tonight) because of an injury.  She's the all-time leader at any level of NCAA for three-pointers made, which gives you a sense how good she is.

[jspiii]

I didn't get to see this game but a couple things caught my eye in the play by play.

It looks like the two biggest baskets for Hope came at 2:06, a 3 by PG Liz Ellis.......noteworthy because it was just the 2nd basket in over 12 minutes not scored by Carrie Snikkers.  Carrie had made 7 of Hope 8 previous FG's.........the other was by Ellis 5 minutes earlier.  It was also the first Hope 3 since Jenny Cowen's 3 minutes into the game, the Dutch had missed 14 in a row until that shot.

.....and at 1:33 a jumper by Jenny Cowen which gave Hope the 8 point cushion and eventual victory.  Cowen hadn't scored a basket in over 36 minutes of game time and had missed 9 shots in a row.

I was there...you are right on the money. That stretch was huge. Along the verbal cheerleading to the players during timeouts in the last 3 minutes by captain Cowen. I sat two rows up from the Hope bench.

[jspiii]

I can hardly believe the line on #4 Andrea Flease for UWSP. 4 assists and 2 steals? She was totally disruptive to Hope's perimeter offense and ran UWSP offense fairly effectively. Britta Petersen 15 for 17...I can believe that. They weren't all easy shots either.

The thing that helped save Hope was all but 3 of 16 UWSP fouls, resulted in foul shots for Hope.

[hope1]

got back a couple of hours from the bus trip  way to go  hope i thought after fridays game that andera flease  was on of the best guards ive seen really fast for a short girl the tickets go on sale monday there is a hoops lunching  and go  hope friday night if you go dont eat the hot dgis a little cold and some nice shopping maws

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Great win last night for the Dutch.  Getting ready to head home from Blommington but the best part is, we'll be back.     

Couple thoughts from last night:

- Carries Snikkers - what can you say but wow!!  Two games in a row with monster second halfs.  Total domination - offense, defense, rebounding.  As I heard someone else say this weekend, if she's not the best player in DIII, I don't know who it could be.

- As others have metioned, two huge buckets by Ellis and Cowen sealed this win.  These shots were even bigger, given that they hadn't been going in for those two for most of the game, yet they shot them with complete confidence (which I credit to them and great coaching).

- I also think (and heard this comment from others as well) that you know your team is really good, when you win the sectional without playing your best ball.

[hope1]

points  per game             hope  74.7             rochester  61.9

field goal                         hope  42  %           rochester  37.6  %

3  point                          hope   32.2             rochester    30.6

free throws                   hope   70.7             rochester     66

rebound margin             hope  5.1               rochester     5.2

turnover margin            hope   7.3             rochester       -1.8

assists per game          hope  15.2            rochester       15.0

steals  per game           hope  16.2           rochester       8

[jspiii]

Great win last night for the Dutch.  Getting ready to head home from Blommington but the best part is, we'll be back.     

I booked a room for the Days Inn on Market St already. Getting the game tickets tomorrow. It will be nice to stay close unlike this weekend 42 miles away from Bloomington.