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[Flying Dutch Fan]

Quick stat comparison for Hope v St Thomas

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
Hope	43.5	34.9	73.9
St Thomas	50.2	30.6	73.4
Defense	% 2pt	% 3pt
Hope	33.5	30.0
St Thomas	40.4	29.5
Rebounding	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	41.2	31.7	9.5
St Thomas	32.8	32.5	0.3
Scoring	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	71.3	43.6	27.7
St Thomas	66.3	52.8	13.5
3 point shooting	Attempts	Made	Made/game
Hope	525	183	6.3
St Thomas	441	135	4.7
Blocks	Total	per game
Hope	126	4.3
St Thomas	111	3.8
Steals	Total	per game
Hope	434	15.0
St Thomas	364	12.6
Turnovers	Total	per game
Hope	450	15.5
St Thomas	450	15.5
Assists	Total	per game
Hope	418	14.4
St Thomas	398	13.7
Assist/Turnover
Hope	0.93
St Thomas	0.88
Efficiency	Offense	Defense	Difference
Hope	101.6	62.2	39.4
St Thomas	103.9	83.2	20.7

[Roundball999]

Excellent article on Hope's Rebekah Llorens.  Gotta love D3 student athletes!

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2013/03/hopes_music_maker_sophomore_pl.html

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Simpson v UWW stats

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
Simpson	45.7	33.6	77.3
UWW	43.9	32.7	74.7
Defense	% 2pt	% 3pt
Simpson	39.7	29.8
UWW	40.3	31.2
Rebounding	Team	Opp	Margin
Simpson	37.4	37.6	-0.2
UWW	39	36.2	2.8
Scoring	Team	Opp	Margin
Simpson	72.1	59	13.1
UWW	70.3	58.5	11.8
3 point shooting	Attempts	Made	Made/game
Simpson	613	206	7.4
UWW	394	129	4.4
Blocks	Total	per game
Simpson	87	3
UWW	89	3.1
Steals	Total	per game
Simpson	391	13.5
UWW	290	10
Turnovers	Total	per game
Simpson	489	16.9
UWW	492	17
Assists	Total	per game
Simpson	426	14.7
UWW	336	11.6
Assist/Turnover
Simpson	0.87
UWW	0.68
Efficiency	Offense	Defense	Difference
Simpson	103.4	83.6	19.8
UWW	100.8	83.9	16.9

[neilrocks]

Quick stat comparison for Hope v St Thomas

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
Hope	43.5	34.9	73.9
St Thomas	50.2	30.6	73.4

Simpson v UWW stats

Offense      % 2pt  % 3pt    % FT 
Simpson      45.7    33.6       77.3 
UWW           43.9   32.7        74.7 

Quite impressive FT shooting based on our previous discussions.  Well above the NEILROCKS line (72.5%).  Not surprised to see these 4 teams in the Sweet 16 with FT shooting like that.

[bballforever]

Any preductions on St. Thomas vs. Hope??

I do not think Hope non-Ellis guards can handle St. Thomas press, so my prediction is Tommies 58 - Hope 41

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Any preductions on St. Thomas vs. Hope??

I do not think Hope non-Ellis guards can handle St. Thomas press, so my prediction is Tommies 58 - Hope 41

Interesting...

I would predict things a bit differently.  Given how well Calvin and Hope know one another, and can be compared to one another easily, I'd put my money on Hope's guards over Calvin's by a pretty hefty margin.  Now factor in the games between those two teams, and the games between the Knights and Tommies, and I think you have a solid Hope victory. 

FWIW - Massey gives Hope an 84% chance of victory and predicts a final score of 61-50.

[Roundball999]

Any preductions on St. Thomas vs. Hope??

I do not think Hope non-Ellis guards can handle St. Thomas press, so my prediction is Tommies 58 - Hope 41

I can't see any reason to think that Hope, with Ellis, would have a tougher time with the St. Thomas press than Calvin had.  Plus Hope has had a week to prepare for the press.  St. Thomas is playing really well and I expect a very tight game, but I'll go with Hope by 3.

[bballforever]

Great input.  I think I will change my prediction based upon this input to close the gap a bit,  Tommies 50- Hope 40.

[sac]

Maybe my eyes were deceiving me but I'm pretty sure I just watched a Hope team consistently beat a press by what was supposed to be the #3 team in D3.

Also, its a good thing Hope has an Ellis then.

[oldknight]

Great input.  I think I will change my prediction based upon this input to close the gap a bit,  Tommies 50- Hope 40.

Don't see that happening. At all. Calvin has played St. Thomas three times the last twelve months, winning once and losing twice, once in OT and most recently by two on a late basket. The Tommies bedeviled Calvin each time by successfully leveraging their strength--ball pressure--against Calvin's weakness--ball handling. Hope's backcourt is clearly superior to Calvin's, on both ends of the floor, and St. Thomas won't be able to utilize their greatest asset to the extent they did against the Lady Knights. I think the Massey prediction has it about right, 61-50 Hope.

[Calvinhoops]

Calvin's starting guards didn't score and struggled with the press so much that the backup guards played more minutes and scored 20 points between them.   That will not be the case with Hope.  The starting guards will play most of the game and only need small breaks and that will be the difference.  Hope by 10!

[bballfan13]

Calvin's starting guards didn't score and struggled with the press so much that the backup guards played more minutes and scored 20 points between them.   That will not be the case with Hope.  The starting guards will play most of the game and only need small breaks and that will be the difference.  Hope by 10!

Injuries were part of the reason.

[hope1]

good luck    hope girls  tonight 

[Roundball999]

Anyone have a video link that works?

[dothedew]

The link with miaa.org and hope isn't working for video. you have to go to d3hoops.com click on the link part way down the page with scores for the women. Find the Hope game and use that link for video. It will take you to the same page, but for some reason this way has the links on the right for the games....although they are called men's basketball.
Odd....5 minutes later it now says women's basketball.
http://d3hoops.com/notables/2013/03/womens-tournament-scores