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[bballfan13]

Call me names if it makes you feel better, I was simply sharing my opinion.  I know the roads were bad based on my drive to Hudsponville and back Saturday morning.  I also am aware of the attendance Calvin has had at home this year (average of 582, which includes the Hope Calvin game of 1124).  That's down from an average of 717 last year - so I will stand by my assertion that the Calvin fans are not attending at the same rate as they were.

Let's be clear, you were not called any names, just your statement.  I'm sorry for coming off strong but criticizing a fan base based on the situation was wrong in my opinion.  I'm sure you would have felt the same way looking at it from the other side.  Hopefully you're not worried this will prevent you from hanging another "attendance" banner.

And the bolded statement above points out the obvious.  That is why they call it average, it includes all games, just as the 717 included the games last year.

The point I was making is that Calvin's average is down 135 per game (nearly 20%).  I was also pointing out that for a home game against Hope in very good weather, there were only 1124 (yes I know that's both Hope and Calvin contributing to that total), but it is down significantly from last season.

Point of reference - there were two Hope Calvin games @ Calvin last year.  Regular season game had 2973, and the MIAA Championship game had 2754.

Just a poor way of going about it.

[Roundball999]

Yikes, Hope is up 62-27 over Kzoo at the half, including hitting 11-12 threes!  Those threes were made by 7 different players.  Everyone has played and 11 have scored in the first half.  Hope is on fire, but not sure what's up with Kzoo.  They gave the Dutch a good game at Devos earlier in the season and have been playing well, but their defense seems a little disinterested tonight.  The Dutch are looking awfully good, but you always do when the shots are going in.

[Roundball999]

Yikes, Hope is up 62-27 over Kzoo at the half, including hitting 11-12 threes!  Those threes were made by 7 different players.  Everyone has played and 11 have scored in the first half.  Hope is on fire, but not sure what's up with Kzoo.  They gave the Dutch a good game at Devos earlier in the season and have been playing well, but their defense seems a little disinterested tonight.  The Dutch are looking awfully good, but you always do when the shots are going in.

Final was 96-54.  Everyone played, everyone scored, bench scored 55.  Hope finished 15-22 (68%) from 3 pt range with eight different players having at least one three.

[sac]

Yikes, Hope is up 62-27 over Kzoo at the half, including hitting 11-12 threes!  Those threes were made by 7 different players.  Everyone has played and 11 have scored in the first half.  Hope is on fire, but not sure what's up with Kzoo.  They gave the Dutch a good game at Devos earlier in the season and have been playing well, but their defense seems a little disinterested tonight.  The Dutch are looking awfully good, but you always do when the shots are going in.

Final was 96-54.  Everyone played, everyone scored, bench scored 55.  Hope finished 15-22 (68%) from 3 pt range with eight different players having at least one three.

For some reason Hope has no record for 3-point shots made by the team in a game.


7 short of the MIAA record of 22

[Roundball999]

Yikes, Hope is up 62-27 over Kzoo at the half, including hitting 11-12 threes!  Those threes were made by 7 different players.  Everyone has played and 11 have scored in the first half.  Hope is on fire, but not sure what's up with Kzoo.  They gave the Dutch a good game at Devos earlier in the season and have been playing well, but their defense seems a little disinterested tonight.  The Dutch are looking awfully good, but you always do when the shots are going in.

Final was 96-54.  Everyone played, everyone scored, bench scored 55.  Hope finished 15-22 (68%) from 3 pt range with eight different players having at least one three.

For some reason Hope has no record for 3-point shots made by the team in a game.


7 short of the MIAA record of 22

Wow, 22 in a game, hard to imagine.  It was raining threes.

Last night's performance significantly exceeded Hope's records at Devos, however the game was at Kzoo.

Hope's Team Records at Devos
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Three Point Field Goals Scored: 12 (12/23) - Hope 81, Tri-State 52, 2-26-08

Three-Point Field Goal Percentage (min. 6 scored): .600 (9/15) - Hope 91, Saint Mary's 66, 2-19-06

[sac]

When I saw Trine's record, and the year (2005) I wondered if Trine wasn't dabbling in 'system' basketball like Grinnell back then.  On the men's side they attempted something similar right around that time.

Trine's 2005 stats.  http://miaa.org/wbb/stats/0405/TSU-W.HTM

They attempted 1020 3-point shots on the season.

[pointlem]

Sorry to read (in the Sentinel) about Angelique Gaddy's injury.  What a delight she is to watch. For her sake--and her team's--I hope it's not a season-ending injury.  Roundball or anyone else: was this an ankle or a knee issue?

[jspiii]

Sorry to read (in the Sentinel) about Angelique Gaddy's injury.  What a delight she is to watch. For her sake--and her team's--I hope it's not a season-ending injury.  Roundball or anyone else: was this an ankle or a knee issue?

I watched the video about 3 times and couldn't tell but she couldn't put any weight (left leg) on it. It didn't look good.

[Roundball999]

Sorry to read (in the Sentinel) about Angelique Gaddy's injury.  What a delight she is to watch. For her sake--and her team's--I hope it's not a season-ending injury.  Roundball or anyone else: was this an ankle or a knee issue?

I watched the video about 3 times and couldn't tell but she couldn't put any weight (left leg) on it. It didn't look good.

Wasn't at the game but heard afterward it was a knee.  Obviously no evaluation yet, but does not sound good.  This team keeps taking body blows and moving forward.  Best wishes to Ms. Gaddy, Llorens, and the rest of the team.

[pointlem]

Ugh.  This reminds me of what happened to a great Calvin women's team several years ago, when two star players had ACL tears in a game against Hope, as I recall.  They were still a good team after that, but it's difficult to lose players of that quality and remain the great team that you were.

[Roundball999]

Ugh.  This reminds me of what happened to a great Calvin women's team several years ago, when two star players had ACL tears in a game against Hope, as I recall.  They were still a good team after that, but it's difficult to lose players of that quality and remain the great team that you were.

Agreed, though still hoping feverishly that Gaddy's injury is not season-ending.  If it is, this is where Hope's depth and Coach Morehouse's usual 10 player rotation will help greatly.  Without Llorens and Gaddy, the starting five may still arguably be just as good but with a different style.  Kaufmann has been playing really well this year and has better shooting stats than Gaddy especially the 3.  Her ball control stats are about the same, but she's not quite as effective penetrating the lane.  They are both excellent defenders.  Doell is not the low post player and offensive threat that Llorens is but she's faster, more versatile, and one of the best defenders in the league.  After all, she did start all last season on a 29-2 elite eight team.  So I think depth is where these injuries will play the greatest role.  But, superior depth has always been one of Hope's key strengths.....

[bballfan13]

Ugh.  This reminds me of what happened to a great Calvin women's team several years ago, when two star players had ACL tears in a game against Hope, as I recall.  They were still a good team after that, but it's difficult to lose players of that quality and remain the great team that you were.

Yes, this happened in the 2007 conference championship between Calvin and Hope.  Calvin's 1st and 3rd leading scorers (Harris and Brummel) both tore their ACL's in the last few minutes of the game.  Hope won by 3 but Calvin still got an at large bid into the tournament.  Calvin rallied together as a team and made it all the way to the Elite 8 that year. 

Injuries are never good to see.  Hopefully Gaddy's isn't season ending for her and Hope's sake.

[pointlem]

Thanks, bballfan.  I see there's an excellent Calvin Chimes article on these two players, and on women athletes' ACL tears and rehab and recovery at
http://clubs.calvin.edu/chimes/article.php?id=3387

Ugh.  This reminds me of what happened to a great Calvin women's team several years ago, when two star players had ACL tears in a game against Hope, as I recall.  They were still a good team after that, but it's difficult to lose players of that quality and remain the great team that you were.

Yes, this happened in the 2007 conference championship between Calvin and Hope.  Calvin's 1st and 3rd leading scorers (Harris and Brummel) both tore their ACL's in the last few minutes of the game.  Hope won by 3 but Calvin still got an at large bid into the tournament.  Calvin rallied together as a team and made it all the way to the Elite 8 that year. 

Injuries are never good to see.  Hopefully Gaddy's isn't season ending for her and Hope's sake.

[sac]

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d3/division-iii-regional-rankings

GREAT LAKES               
1   DePauw                    22-0   22-0      
2   Hope                    21-0   21-0      
3   Thomas More            21-0   21-0      
4   John Carroll            16-2   17-2      
5   Ohio Northern            17-4   17-4      
6   Baldwin Wallace     16-5   16-5      
7   Transylvania            18-2   19-2      
8   Olivet                    16-2   18-3

[bballfan13]

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d3/division-iii-regional-rankings

GREAT LAKES               
1   DePauw                    22-0   22-0      
2   Hope                    21-0   21-0      
3   Thomas More            21-0   21-0      
4   John Carroll            16-2   17-2      
5   Ohio Northern            17-4   17-4      
6   Baldwin Wallace     16-5   16-5      
7   Transylvania            18-2   19-2      
8   Olivet                    16-2   18-3

Anyone know who is on the regional committee this year in the Great Lakes?  On the NCAA.com website it says that the MIAA did not vote this week.  That seems odd.

Update:
Nevermind, I found it. It's Doreen Carden from Albion this year.

http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2014/womens-basketball-championships-handbook-2014.pdf