WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Mr. Ypsi]

Brian's first two teams went 31-23 making his win% in the last 20 years .898

His teams have not lost to Alma since 2000, Olivet since 1999, Adrian since 1999 and never to Kalamazoo.  I think they have 1 loss to St. Mary's and 1 to Trine as well.

But he's still not even halfway to Pat Summit's win total (!,098).   Alas, Geno will probably pass her in another three/maybe four years.

[Roundball999]

Brian's first two teams went 31-23 making his win% in the last 20 years .898

His teams have not lost to Alma since 2000, Olivet since 1999, Adrian since 1999 and never to Kalamazoo.  I think they have 1 loss to St. Mary's and 1 to Trine as well.

But he's still not even halfway to Pat Summit's win total (!,098).   Alas, Geno will probably pass her in another three/maybe four years.

He's still young, he could get there if he keeps coaching and keeps winning at the same % that he has for the past 20 years.  It's a little tougher since top D3 teams play 6-8 fewer games/year than top D1 teams.

[Pat Coleman]

Alright, folks -- the NCAA's first women's basketball regional rankings are posted. Check out the full list from D3hoops.com:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/

[sac]

Hope comes in at #2 behind Thomas More. 

The women's and mens' committee appear to be treating SOS differently  (Hope women, PSU-Behrend men)?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

They are treating it slightly differently. As they have both said on Hoopsville, the men really subscribed to the .03 SO = 2 games theory... the women look at it but don't buy in that hard. Not sure how much might adjust in the coming weeks, though. I also don't usually take in the first week's rankings as meaning much or setting any pattern for either side.

I would also say, the men and women have always viewed and read into the criteria completely differently. There has never been a year where they are in agreement or even close to lock step with one another.

[bballfan13]

Maybe Dave can weigh in here or someone else who may know. Calvin is only credited for a 14-5 in division record even though they played and beat Illinois Tech. They are D3 provisional so does this not count then? Not sure if it would help or hurt as they are 0-17 but just curious. Illinois Tech is listed in the Central region data sheet though.

[sac]

Illinois Tech had to do year 2 provisional over, so they don't count this year.  I imagine Calvin scheduled them last spring with the idea they would count this year.


It would help Calvin's win% but would hurt their SOS.  Its probably best it doesn't count.  Calvin's probably not getting a bid unless they win the MIAA tournament anyway.

[bballfan13]

Illinois Tech had to do year 2 provisional over, so they don't count this year.  I imagine Calvin scheduled them last spring with the idea they would count this year.


It would help Calvin's win% but would hurt their SOS.  Its probably best it doesn't count.  Calvin's probably not getting a bid unless they win the MIAA tournament anyway.

Gotcha.  So does it count in year 3 and 4 of provisional?

Yes, it was very doubtful before the loss to Trine, now with that loss there really isn't any way to get in unless they win the MIAA tournament.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Illinois Tech had to do year 2 provisional over, so they don't count this year.  I imagine Calvin scheduled them last spring with the idea they would count this year.


It would help Calvin's win% but would hurt their SOS.  Its probably best it doesn't count.  Calvin's probably not getting a bid unless they win the MIAA tournament anyway.

Gotcha.  So does it count in year 3 and 4 of provisional?

Yes, it was very doubtful before the loss to Trine, now with that loss there really isn't any way to get in unless they win the MIAA tournament.

For the opponent, yes, though the provisional is still ineligible to participate postseason.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Sorry to be late to the party, everyone covered this already.

Illinois Tech repeated their year, thus still a P2 in terms of their provisional status and thus don't count towards criteria. Yes, P3 and P4 teams count for criteria, but are still not eligible for the NCAA Tournament (SCAC men had this happen a few years ago when a team won the conference tournament, but since they were ineligible, Trinity (TX) already knew they were going to the NCAA tournament with the AQ).

[Roundball999]

Congrats to the Hope Flying Dutch for clinching the outright regular season league title and running their record to 24-0.  The final regular season game has the makings of a trap game - there's not much at stake, it's at rival Calvin, who would no doubt love to put a blemish on that unbeaten record.  Not to mention that Calvin has a really nice team.

[bballfan13]

Congrats to the Hope Flying Dutch for clinching the outright regular season league title and running their record to 24-0.  The final regular season game has the makings of a trap game - there's not much at stake, it's at rival Calvin, who would no doubt love to put a blemish on that unbeaten record.  Not to mention that Calvin has a really nice team.

I agree with what you say in that it's a potential trap game if it was a normal game. But as we all know Calvin vs Hope is not normal. You never want to lose that game. I don't think there's anyway that Hope overlooks it.

[Roundball999]

Congrats to the Hope Flying Dutch for clinching the outright regular season league title and running their record to 24-0.  The final regular season game has the makings of a trap game - there's not much at stake, it's at rival Calvin, who would no doubt love to put a blemish on that unbeaten record.  Not to mention that Calvin has a really nice team.

I agree with what you say in that it's a potential trap game if it was a normal game. But as we all know Calvin vs Hope is not normal. You never want to lose that game. I don't think there's anyway that Hope overlooks it.

Good point.  I guess if you can't get motivated for that game, there's no Hope

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

There isn't that much time left in the regular season as teams continue to fight to get into conference tournaments and position themselves for hopefully NCAA tournament bids. Second round of Regional Rankings are also out with plenty of answers... and questions. Plus, some teams are putting on some shows recently including a lot of buzzer beaters!

On Thursday night's Hoopsville, Dave McHugh rolls up his sleeves and takes a look at what is happening as we head into the last ten days of the regular season. McHugh will also get some insight on Wednesday's insane men's basketball game between Lynchburg and No. 21 Roanoke. Plus, get a preview of the NESCAC men's and women's tournaments along with talking to ranked teams on both the men's and women's side.

Hoopsville hits the air at 7:00 pm ET and promises to go at least 2 1/2 hours. You can watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb18

Guests scheduled (in order of appearance):
- Alex Graves, Lynchburg senior forward
- Howard Herman, Berkshire Eagle, NESCAC tournaments preview
- Brian Morehouse, No. 3 Hope women's coach
- Bill Broderick, No. 16 Christopher Newport women's coach
- Tom Curle, No. 23 Plattsburgh State men's coach
- Eric Bridgeland, No. 9 Whitman men's coach

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[bballfan13]

For anyone that can't make the Calvin vs Hope game today it is being televised locally on WGVU.