WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[sac]

Hope maintains #2 ranking.  A loss this weekend might make that dicey next week.  Calvin, unfortunately looks like they must win the MIAA Tournament to get bid.  But my knowledge here goes no deeper than these 9 teams, so I don't know were they stand exactly.


1 Thomas More 24-0 25-0
2 Hope 23-1 24-1
3 Ohio Northern 22-3 22-3
4 Denison 22-3 22-3
5 Carnegie Mellon 18-6 18-6
6 Bluffton 21-2 23-2
7 Capital 19-6 19-6
8 Rose-Hulman 20-3 22-3
9 La Roche 22-3 22-3

I think you're right here Sac.  Calvin needs to win the MIAA tournament to make the NCAAs.  After those 9 I have the next 4 at:

Wash and Jefferson  .840/.516/1-4
Calvin                     .783/.524/1-3
DePauw                   .760/.513/0-3
Mount Union            .720/.534/3-3

As Dave mentions we do typically see the women's committee put more weight into WL than SOS but they haven't done that with Carnegie Mellon this year. CM has a line of .750/.577/3-4. Their SOS definitely is by far highest in the region and they have played a lot of RRO - mostly just by being in the UAA. Probably fair as to where they are ranked.

I thought we might see Capital fall a bit more than they did this week with their loss.  I thought they would be behind Rose-Hulman, but we're just splitting hairs here.

If the conference #1 seeds win their tournaments we will be looking at this come selection Monday:

Carnegie Mellon (no conference tournament - Pool C as they didn't win their conference)
Capital
Rose-Hulman (tied for conference with Bluffton - Bluffton wins coin flip to host tournament)


So what happens after that?  I believe I know how the process works in the selection of the 19 teams (round by round looking at the top team in each region Pool C eligible, if one gets selected from that region then it's the next one up for the next round).  Will those 4 teams I mention make the list to be put into there (Wash & Jeff, Calvin, DePauw, Mount Union)?  Of course being this far down in the regional rankings will make it hard to get in as their are some other great teams out there that will not win their tournament, but just asking the question on the process for teams just outside the rankings.

They rank beyond the 9 that are shown publicly.  For instance Calvin might be #10 or #11,  its just hard to know in exactly what order those teams are.  So its possibly to be ranked say #10 and get to the Pool C table.  But in reality it really isn't all that likely.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Yes, they have to ranked beyond the public ones... but the public ones are used only for vRRO and to have an official number. But they have to ranked deeper because there have been times in the past where teams not on the final official regional rankings who have gotten at-large bids.

[Roundball999]

A loss by Hope this weekend would seem to make hosting a question mark if they have the opportunity.  The women and men don't interpret things the same at all, but another loss closes the gap for ONU and raises the possibility that ONU could move ahead of them.  That would make ONU one of the favorites to host.

current slash lines  win%/SOS/RvRRO's

Hope      .958/.456/1-0
ONU       .880/.530/1-3

A loss on Friday makes Hope's win%  .920, a loss on Saturday .923.  IF ONU were to win the OAC Tournament they would obviously close that gap in Win% some.  I don't know what it would take for the women to interpret these numbers as ONU being ranked higher.

Maybe this resolves itself.  Lots of game left, but B-W is currently up by 9 over ONU at the half.

[sac]

Baldwin-Wallace did beat ONU 65-58

I guess now the comparison really comes down to Hope and Denison

[sac]

Hope and Denison slash lines


Hope         .958/.456/1-0
Denison    .880/.541/1-3

Same thing applies to ONU comparison.  The gap in win% would narrow if Hope lost on either day this weekend.   I'm not quite sure why ONU was ranked ahead of Denison.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Halftime - Trine 27 Calvin 20 after Calvin closed the half on a 7-0 run (prior to that Calvin was shooting 19% from the field). Great tournament intense basketball thus far.

[realist]

They just don't look like the Knight team that played Hope on Sat.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Trine wins 57-45 despite 30 turnovers. Of course Calvin shooting under 20% for the game had a lot to do with that outcome.

[Roundball999]

Trine wins 57-45 despite 30 turnovers. Of course Calvin shooting under 20% for the game had a lot to do with that outcome.

And 3-26 from behind the arc.  I can only imagine how frustrated they must feel.  That's a tough way to end it but hopefully the Knights will reflect back on a solid season of achievement regardless of whether they get an NCAA nod or not.  They lost a lot last year yet have put together a fine season.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Hope will be without guard Elizabeth Perkins for the rest of the year (possibly she could be back for a national championship game). She sustained multiple fractures to her left hand during the game last Saturday at Calvin. Looks like Madison Geers will be starting in her place.

[Roundball999]

Hope will be without guard Elizabeth Perkins for the rest of the year (possibly she could be back for a national championship game). She sustained multiple fractures to her left hand during the game last Saturday at Calvin. Looks like Madison Geers will be starting in her place.

Wow that's a big blow.  3rd major injury for the Dutch.  Perkins is one of those energizer players and very strong defensively, she will be missed.

[Roundball999]

Wow, as tough a shooting night as Calvin had, the Dutch are topping them.  Shooting a whopping 4% (1-23) midway through the 2bd, down 25-6.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

29-18 Olivet at the half. Hope made its first 2pt field goal with 1:10 left in the first half. 3-15 from 3 and 2-20 from 2. Can't get much worse than that. Expect a significantly different second half.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Amazing 2nd half by Hope - especially the 4th quarter in which Hope out scored the Comets 29-11. McAfee showed why she's the MVP with 28 & 13reb , including 22 in the 2nd half. Several monster 3s by Traversa put the win away.

[sac]

I'm not quite sure how you collectively shoot 27.6% as a team and overcome a 19 point deficit but Hope managed to do that.    Can only think of one comeback better and that one was in 1990 when Hope won their first National Championship down 16 late in the 2nd half.

That was one astounding turnaround.