WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[sac]

I just learned that the same ticket will get you in to the men's and women's double header, with the women's game at 12:45 and the men's game at 3:00.

Do the NCAA rules state that the total number of tickets sold is counted as the attendance for both games? If so, could this game, which may have close to 4500 attendance according to the NCAA, be at or near an all-time D-3 women's game attendance record?

Not that I'd put much stock in that record if only 2000 people actually see the game...

What is the all-time attendance record?

Apparently the NCAA allows a school to count anyone in attendance by halftime as attending the women's games.  Seems like we had a similar discussion a few pages back about a Hope women's/men's double header last year and how attendance was calculated for the women.

sorry don't have a link.

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, that is the rule. If a separate attendance count -- in the building -- is taken by halftime of the women's game it counts.

[Dark Knight]

"Maybe (Calvin) should be No. 1," said Morehouse, who guided the Flying Dutch to the Division III title last year. "They are that good. I was talking with our assistant coaches, and I said, 'Who would they not be able to beat on the way to the Final Four?' We couldn't come up with a team.

--GR Press

[almcguirejr]

Halftime

Calvin 23
Hope   21

Calvin 16 turnovers

[GoKnights68]

Looks like Calvin and Hope women are all tied up at 37 with about 10 minutes to go in the game.  Should be  a great finish.

[NW Hope Fan]

Looks like Calvin and Hope women are all tied up at 37 with about 10 minutes to go in the game.  Should be  a great finish.

Super game... 51-51 w/37 sec

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Wow, what an exciting last 17 seconds to the Hope-Calvin game. OT. Two really evenly matched teams in both games. Hopefully they both make the NCAA tourney and are not matched up to meet each other in the first or second round. Dumb committee, I have no faith.

[NW Hope Fan]

OT

Another Hope/Calvin classic...

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Looks like Calvin and Hope women are all tied up at 37 with about 10 minutes to go in the game.  Should be  a great finish.

Super game... 51-51 w/37 sec

Listening to the Calvin radio in the library right now. All I got was a yell and Calvin stole the ball. Almost sounded like the Calvin player missed a layup. Is that right?

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Unfortunate loss for the Hope Women. They only shot 30% from the floor, including 18% from the 3 and still managed to almost win the game because of a great game on the boards. It should be great to see these two teams meet up again, hopefully that will happen in the MIAA tourney.

That said this has to be the most depressing week for Orange and Blue teams ever. First, the Bears. Then Hope men, now Hope women. If Illinois doesn't pull off a victory at Indiana in the next 7 minutes I may just stay in bed all day tomorrow

[Dark Knight]

It was a very evenly matched, very physical defensive battle with bodies flying every which way. The halftime score was 23-21 for the knights. There were many lead changes and the largest lead by either team was 5 points.

Hope didn't have any dribble penetration to speak of but they did pass the ball in to the post quite a bit, and Wood was their leading scorer.

Calvin had problems getting the ball into the post in the first half -- many passes were tipped or picked off. This will be excellent experience for them for tournaments, because no other teams have been able to apply this kind of defensive pressure. But with all of Hope's emphasis on interior defense Calvin was able to hit 8 three-point shots, nearly half their point total for the non-overtime portion of the game.

After the men's game, the women's team cut down the nets to celebrate the MIAA season championship for the Knights.

Addendum: I wasn't too surprised to see from the box score that Hope had outrebounded Calvin 49-33. Hope had 22 offensive rebounds on 46 missed shots. Calvin made up the deficit with better shooting, 41% on the game to Hope's 30%. The 3-point percentage made a huge difference, 8 of 15 for Calvin to 3 of 17 for Hope.

[Oval]

MIAA scores
Saturday Feb 10

Calvin 63, Hope 58 (OT)
Saint Mary's 62, Kalamazoo 60
Olivet 76, Alma 72
Tri-State 89, Adrian 77

[Fawkes316]

Losing to Wheaton could be the best thing that has happened to Calvin. Wheaton was the last team to beat both Millikin and Hope the last two years, before they went on to win the National Championship.

[knightrider]

to settle this attendance issue, yesterdays game attendance between calvin and hope was listed at 2234, much less than the 2900 for the first meeting this year.  From being at the game, this was definitely because of a count at half time and not from the end of the game.  By the end of the game there was probably more than 3000. 

A more interesting observation was that the guys game was credited with an attendance of 3300, but that had to have counted some of those in attendance at the women's game because the fieldhouse cleared out quite a bit after the women's game.  I bet the guys game had 2000, but not 3000 in attendance. 

Overall I think the way the NCAA counts attendance is flawed and the only way to have gotten an accurate count would have been to empty out the fieldhouse after the women's game and have different tickets for the mens game.  Time to put an end to this discussion.

[knightrider]

Looking at the calvin hope game from yesterday, I think my pregame assessment wasn't too far off.  Calvin tried to stop Hope in the post but still gave up 31 of hope's 58 points by wood, lange, and warsen.  These three combined to shoot 10 of 20 from the field and 11 of 15 from the free throw line.  The rest of the hope team shot 10 of 36 from the floor and 4 of 6 from the free throw line.  The other main post player, emily ohare, was 0-8 from the floor.  I think this shows calvin's defensive focus in the game, and what made a difference in the game.  Focusing on the posts and gambling a bit on the guards paid off and Calvin won the game. 

Looking at what Calvin attacked on the offensive end, I would say that Kristi Brummel was the game breaker.  Her outside shooting early in the game was what kept calvin in the game.  Then the rest of the calvin guards stepping up and hitting big outside shots, helped open up the inside a bit for Harris and Winkle.

One thing I would like to see Calvin do more against Hope the next time is go with the three post lineup of winkle, harris and willett.  The nice thing about this lineup is that harris is fast enough to guard on the perimeter, plus it forces one of hopes guards to guard a post player, usually harris.  This mismatch would be in Calvin's favor.  Calvin used this a couple of times yesterday, but only took full advantage once where Harris posted Boles up and scored. 

Overall it was a great, exciting game, and hopefully we will get at least one more match up between these two before the season is over.