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Flying Dutch Fan

For the Hope pod looking at records versus other NCAA tournament teams:

Marietta 3-3
Wittenberg 2-1
La Roche 1-2
Hope 3-1


One matchup between two of these teams in the regular season (on Nov 11 - 1st game of the season):

Marietta 63 La Roche 54


Common opponents (NCAA tourney teams):

Washigton & Jefferson - both La Roche & Marietta were 1-0
Baldwin-Wallace - Hope was 1-0, La Roche was 0-1, and Marietta was 0-2

2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

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goodknight

Flying Dutch Fan

For the Trine pod looking at records versus other NCAA tournament teams:

John Carroll 3-3
Elizabethtown 0-2
Immaculata 1-0
Trine 2-3


No matchups between two of these teams in the regular season


Common opponents (NCAA tourney teams):

Baldwin-Wallace - Trine was 1-0, John Carroll was 2-1
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

Flying Dutch Fan

Hope Pod - some additional data (cause I'm bored waiting for games).  Some details on the columns

Avg Pos/G - Average possession per game - to help judge the speed of games - pretty even
Off Eff (PPP) - Offensive Efficiency in Points Per Possession
Def Eff (PPP) - same thing on the defensive side
Home Attendance - just throwing that in there since you can bet DeVos will be 1500-2000 people, and that (along with the actual place itself) can be intimidating



Team     Avg Pos/G   Off Eff (PPP)   Def Eff (PPP)      Avg Home Attendance       
Marietta     71.8   0.962   0.812      497     
Wittenberg     72.8   0.892   0.803      380     
La Roche     73.4   0.997   0.795      88     
Hope     74.6   1.159   0.615      1001     
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

Flying Dutch Fan

Trine Pod - some additional data (cause I'm bored waiting for games).  Some details on the columns

Avg Pos/G - Average possession per game - to help judge the speed of games - significant difference there.  Should Trine & JCU meet on Saturday that will be a battle of who controls pace.
Off Eff (PPP) - Offensive Efficiency in Points Per Possession
Def Eff (PPP) - same thing on the defensive side
Home Attendance - just throwing that in there since I expect the MTI Center will have ~1000 people, and that (along with the actual place itself) can be intimidating



Team     Avg Pos/G   Off Eff (PPP)   Def Eff (PPP)      Avg Home Attendance       
John Carroll     73.4   1.001   0.797      235     
Elizabethtown     69.5   1.037   0.881      131     
Immaculata     71.6   0.945   0.787      160     
Trine     66.7   1.116   0.716      521     
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

TUAngola

Oy Vey ::) Trine with a rather putrid 62-37 win over Immaculata University in the NCAA tournament opener in Angola tonight.  I hope this isn't a harbinger of things to come tomorrow night.  3-24 from behind the arc and 21 turnovers isn't going to cut it.  If they play this awful tomorrow night it will be a 1 and done for the gals as John Carroll University was pretty impressive in their thumping of Elizabethtown in the opener 100-56.  JCU looks to be a mirror image of Hope.  Big team, can shoot, plays good defense.  They were easily the best team of the 4 tonight.

sac

Hope 84 LaRoche 52

It was 42-41 at one point with Hope sitting on a 1-10 3 point shooting night and being under 50% from the free-throw line.

Its gonna be a short tournament if that continues.

Erm Schmigget

That there's what you call a very hard-fought 32 point win.   :P
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Dutchfan

#5707
In my observations, three things sparked Hope's victory tonight...

1. Hope did a great job of getting the ball inside for quick, effective shots by Olivia Voskuil.

2. Meg Morehouse really got things going for Hope is the second half with quick hands resulting in timely breakaway baskets.

3. Simply put... Depth. La Roche was running on fumes in the fourth quarter while Hope's players were still fresh and energetic.

Unfortunately, Hope was abysmal from the charity stripe, shooting under 50%. The 3-point shooting was even worse for much of the night. Hope simply couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from more than ten feet for the first two thirds of the game, and that's just not going to cut it going forward.

Flying Dutch Fan

FREE THROWS!!!!!!

Hope has not been great from the line all year, hovering around 70% but the last few games have been really awful. Maybe it's just me but it seems like many of them are a bit too quick at the line and just need to slow down a bit. Last night Muller (5-6) and Gardner (4-4) looked comfortable and at ease at the line. The rest of the team (including several players with solid career FT% averages) went 2-14 - that's a whopping 14%.  The FT line - especially in the tournament - can win or lose you some games and they have got to turn this around.
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

pointlem

#5709
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 05, 2022, 07:03:29 AM
FREE THROWS!!!!!!

Hope has not been great from the line all year, hovering around 70% but the last few games have been really awful. Maybe it's just me but it seems like many of them are a bit too quick at the line and just need to slow down a bit. Last night Muller (5-6) and Gardner (4-4) looked comfortable and at ease at the line. The rest of the team (including several players with solid career FT% averages) went 2-14 - that's a whopping 14%.  The FT line - especially in the tournament - can win or lose you some games and they have got to turn this around.
Agree DutchFan and FDF . . . though if Hope was to have an off night shooting--the sort of night that happens and that will cause a favored tournament team to lose--the first game was the time for such. Samantha Feenstra's presence on that second squad is missed, but hopefully, and likely, the shooting will return.

Player of the game was Olivia Voskuil, with 8 of 11 shooting (layups over shorter defense), 9 rebounds, and 5 blocks. Her defensive presence makes Hope a better team when she's in. With Feenstra injured, it will be interesting to see if her minutes increase as the competition rises in games to come.

Someone seeing the 32 point win margin would have no clue how close that game was. Kudos to La Roche for playing tough and not being intimidated, until finally seeming to run out of gas facing the unremitting Hope intensity.

TUAngola

Final:  Trine 63  John Carroll 42

Note to self: stop fretting! I was really worried about JCU as they looked so good yesterday.  But then again they don't play against defenses like Trine in their league.  After scoring 100 pts last night we hold the Blue Streaks to 42.  Trine got back to playing Trine basketball, which is play stifling defense, take care of the ball and make enough shots to get some breathing room on the other team.  We got off to a fantastic start as we raced out to a 15-0 lead and forced JCU to take an early timeout to right the ship.  Then JCU started getting the ball into their star player Olivia Nagy.  When she posts up and gets good position she is pretty much unstoppable 1 on 1.  In the second half we did double down on her more and she wasn't nearly as effective.

We still didn't shoot the ball well from 3, Tara was in a major slump this weekend, and so was Kayla.  We need Tara to hit 40% from 3 to be really good.  You watch her in warmups and she never misses from 3, but I think she gets winded easily and it affects her shot in the game.  Makayla Ardis played one of her best games I've seen, she and Rachel Stewart led us with 11 points, but we got contributions from everyone who played.  Nagy, who is the 2-time OAC most valuable player, finished with 21 pts and 14 rebounds and played 38 minutes.  She kind of reminds me of Gabby Timmer but is more athletic than Gabby.  JCU's other all-conference player, Nicole Heffington, finished with 8 points, but you could tell she wasn't 100% physically from getting injured last weekend. The injury affected her mobility and shooting, but being her senior year it wasn't going to stop her from playing.

Congrats Trine, on to the Sweet 16, more than likely traveling to Transylvania next weekend.

Now time to watch the Hope game...Lets Go Hope!!

scottiedawg

Trine ROLLED BW.

Headed to Lexington probably?

I hope Trine comes out of that pod!

scottiedawg

Hosts are probably Amherst, Baldwin Wallace, Hope, Transylvania.

Gracious, with the 600 miles, midwest teams are set up great to host the round of 16, because both Wisconsin and New England can drive to them.

Case in point: 577 miles from Smith to Baldwin Wallace. If the limit is 500 miles, that pod would have been at Whitewater.

TUAngola

Quote from: scottiedawg on March 05, 2022, 10:05:34 PM
Trine ROLLED BW.

Headed to Lexington probably?

I hope Trine comes out of that pod!
No official announcement until tomorrow, but pretty certain Trine will be heading to Transylvania next weekend.

Trine vs Springfield   *Springfield knocks off 2 ranked teams in Messiah and Ithaca to reach the Sweet 16*
Mary Hardin-Baylor vs Transylvania

scottiedawg

From Dave McHugh:

"Womens hosts are known for next weekend:

Amherst
Hope
Transylvania
UW-Whitewater

We have learned that BW did not have put into host. IMO from what we've learned, BW not hosting likely cost CNU a host. I think there could have been 6 flights with CNU hosting ... not 7. #d3hoops"