WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Flea]

January 07, 2006

Albion 78 defeats Tri-State 56

Alma 75 defeats Kalamazoo 55

Calvin 67 defeats Saint Mary's 62

Olivet 74 defeats Adrian 50

[Flea]

Looks like Marcia Harris and Erin Newsom stand out as inside players and Megan Seely as a guard.

head-to-head . . .

## Player                   FG FGA FG FGA FT FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP    A TO BLK S MIN
34 Marcia Harris....... *  8   10   0  0     7  10   0   2   2    0   23    3   4   1   4   32
42 Erin Newsom....... *  1    5    0  0     2   2    1   5   6    5    4    0   4   0   1   20

BTW. excellent post Dark Knight

[Flea]

Quote from: MeMyself on January 15, 2005, 05:19:26 pm

Stephanie Smith broke, not only Olivet's school three point record, but the MIAA all time record, for most three's in a game. Stephanie sank 9 of 16 from behind the arc and was 11-18 in game. She helped Olivet beat Alma by scoring a career high 35 points

With this kind of play Calvin will be in trouble this week.  My picks for Wednesday's games:

January 18

Olivet over Calvin
Hope over Alma
Tri-State over Kalamazoo
Albion over Saint Mary's

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[MIdoubleA]

Good article today in the Holland Sentinel about the lack of attendance at Hope Womens games. I can't link it because it requires a registered user, but go to www.thehollandsentinel.net and make a free account if you really want.

Is this the same for all of womens basketball?

[sac]

Tommorrows Sentinel article will be about the regular season record crowd of 1527 at DeVos to watch the ladies

[tniem]

Good article today in the Holland Sentinel about the lack of attendance at Hope Womens games. I can't link it because it requires a registered user, but go to www.thehollandsentinel.net and make a free account if you really want.

Is this the same for all of womens basketball?

I reallly didn't find it that interesting of an article.  It is like they finally discovered that more people go to the men's game than the women's.  It is silly.  Compare to last year:

2005-06	2004-05
3154 opening night	800  v. Calvin
1451 w/ men	400
825	425
605	425
505	350
1355 w/ men	250
1525 alone v. Albion	650
	400
	700
	75
	1100 season finale for champ.
	350
	900  MIAA semis

Note: this isn't the best table.  Rows do not relate.  It is kind of just two lists side by side to compare.

As you can see, the numbers are up this year, even if you do not include the men's games.  I believe those double headers have built some extra interest (as have the new stadium).  Obviously, with a larger gym the crowds do not look as big.  But if you ignored the few seats in the Dow, you would have to admit there were not large crowds for a team that is always nationally ranked.

Actually, if you wanted to draw larger crowds in Holland you would charge for the games or at least sell season tickets.  Imagine if people had to buy season tickets for the women to be able to buy tickets for the men's games.  I guarantee you that if those older Dutch people had to own the tickets, they would be at the games.  Guaranteed.


And how it is at other schools, well, how quiet is this board v. the men's.  You have your answer.  And if you need more proof, here is the attendance averages men's v. women's for the league:

Team	Women Avg	Men Avg
Adrian	157	475
Albion	176	401
Alma	147	238
Calvin	306	1308
Hope	1346	2895
Kalamazoo	141	418
Olivet	240	551
Saint Mary's	106
Tri State	71	114

As you can see, every school has more at the men's games, nearly double.  And all schools men's teams would do better with the Hope women's average attendance (of course that does not include the boost that Calvin will get for the Hope game or the bonus Hope gets on the women's side from double headers).  But I think the point is simple - Hope/Holland does a fairly good job of supporting the women.  People in general just are not as interested in their games. 

[albinomascot19]

Olivet fell behind by 12 at halftime, before rallying to win by 4 in overtime.

Key performer of the night:  Olivet's Audrey Graham scored a career high 31 points in a Comet win.

[albinomascot19]

The discussion board for men's basketball is a lot more interactive than this one.  I have checked now for the past few days, and still no one has to decided to have some worthwhile discussion.  All I know is Hope seems like it is going to run away with the conference this year.  Calvin is doing well, dont get me wrong, but Hope has been simply dominant.  However, I feel that both Calvin and Hope should both be headed to the NCAA Tournament.   

[Flea]

What has happened to Albion?  I saw them as a hard-nose team that would play physical against the Knights and Dutch. 

[tniem]

Hope's 103-67 victory over Adrian last night was the first 100 point game in the MIAA this season.  The last time 100 points scored was last February when Tri-State beat Olivet 100-89. 

Meanwhile on the Men's side there has only been two 100 point games, Hope beating Andrews (103-46) and Alma beating Marygrove (103-79).  Something in the water with all of the 103 point games?

[albinomascot19]

Hope has the conference basically wrapped up.  I can see the Hope women's team hoisting the hardware come March.  Calvin has also been doing really well this season, but don't seem to be able to compete with the Flying Dutchmen.  I know there is a small portion of the season still remaining, but I say just give the MIAA Championship banner to Hope.  This year there hasnt been a single team that has been able to compete with them.  Though Calvin will probably end up getting a bid to the NCAA Tournament, but the favorite is Hope.  They are on a long winning streak, I dont see them getting another Loss.  This has to be one of the best Hope teams ever!  If only more of the Dutchies would go support their women's team.

[albinomascot19]

Albion, just basically fell apart this year.  The women's team looked to be heading to a 3rd NCAA Tournament, but that doesnt look to be the case. Coach Belkowski is basically building towards the future.  After losing several key players from last year, the team started out well and has just folded since the close losses against Hope, a come from behind victory for Hope in which they were down 20, and a one point loss against Calvin.  Since then they have been reeling down hill.  I was thinking a 20 win season was very much a possibility, now that basically has faded.  The only way the women can make a 3rd NCAA Tourney would be to win the MIAA Tournament.  I think the remaining games on their schedule look to be winnable games, and they should end the regular season on a 4 game winning streak heading into the MIAA Tourney, however, nothing has gone the way they would have hoped for. 

[Dark Knight]

It was quite an exciting game between Albion and Calvin last Wednesday. With tough defense, Albion held Calvin scoreless for the first several minutes and went up 10-0. The Britons packed the paint and the knights had difficulty getting the ball inside. Add to that a dry spell from behind the arc for the knights and you see the difficulty.

In the first game between Calvin and Albion, Calvin won 51-50, surviving a 2-of-20 trey shooting night. That game must have looked like the first half of this game. At times the knights seemed so entirely open on the three-point line that they didn't dare take the shot.

In the second half, the knights were more successful getting the ball inside to Harris or Winkle, who could then score, draw a foul, or generally get the offense flowing better.

That #3 Briton (Fornetti) is speedy. Only Peuler could reliably stop her from dribble penetration. Peuler had a nice game all around.

The knights' 8 blocks and other alters made a big difference in the game. The Britons shot 50% from behind the arc but only 34% of 2-point attempts.

The knights ended up shooting 6/21 treys -- not as good as the last four games, but enough to win. In those four games they'd hit 40% of their attempts, almost double rate of earlier in the season.

[Flea]

Calvin has also been doing really well this season, but don't seem to be able to compete with the Flying Dutchmen.

I agree.  Hope's post players pound and pound, and Calvin does not have the depth to stay with them.  If Harris or the battle-hardened Winkle get in foul trouble there is not much muscle coming off Calvin's bench.

Back on the 14th the Wood was tough, tough, tough off the bench . . . and that was at Knollcrest.  Seems as though if either team can shoot 40-45% from the field they'll win the rematch at DeVos on the 11th.

[albinomascot19]

Do any of you know who and when was the last MIAA Team crowned National Champions in Women's Basketball?