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Flying Dutch Fan

Hope defeated Elmhurst 72-49 at the RDV Sportsplex in Orlando
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"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

sac

Thanks for the score FDF, livestats wasn't working.

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/wbb/stats/0809/1215hoel.htm

With Mount Union being afraid of bugs, this was an important in-region win for the Lady Dutch.  Hope gets all 3 outside the conference they could get beating Defiance twice and now Elmhurst.

Flying Dutch Fan

Should be one more in-region game tomorrow, as they are playing Carthage
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

HopeConvert

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on December 15, 2008, 09:02:50 PM
Should be one more in-region game tomorrow, as they are playing Carthage

Here we go ...  ::)
One Mississippi, Two Mississippi...

sac

Quote from: HopeConvert on December 15, 2008, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on December 15, 2008, 09:02:50 PM
Should be one more in-region game tomorrow, as they are playing Carthage

Here we go ...  ::)

Not to bring up old wounds, but its not listed as in-region on the d3hoops.com schedules and wasn't listed as in-region last season............


this year
http://d3hoops.com/school/HOPE/womens/2009

last year
http://d3hoops.com/school/HOPE/womens/2008

.....it wasn't counted as in-region for the men last year.


Somehow it seems appropriate this game is being played near the Magic Kingdom tonight,  let me know if Tinkerbell was there

Magic Ferry anyone?............<sigh>............die horse die!!!

Flying Dutch Fan

Of course it wasn't an in-region game last year - we beat Carthage.  Don't you know the Magic Ferry only runs in years when Hope loses to Carthage.     ;D
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

sac

Way to post the score of the game you flew across the country to see FDF  ::)

Hope 64 Carthage 46

Close one at the half, Dutch hold the Red ..uh women? to 19 second half points.  Philana Green 18, Cowen 13, Bruinsma 10.   Must have played some D on Snikkers, held to 2 points and no FG's.

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: sac on December 16, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
Way to post the score of the game you flew across the country to see FDF  ::)

Not me - I'm stuck here in frigid Michigan.  Certain other posters (who shall remain nameless) are down in Florida, and have been providing game, as well as margarita updates.   ;D
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

sac

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on December 17, 2008, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: sac on December 16, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
Way to post the score of the game you flew across the country to see FDF  ::)

Not me - I'm stuck here in frigid Michigan.  Certain other posters (who shall remain nameless) are down in Florida, and have been providing game, as well as margarita updates.   ;D

My sincerest apologies, I'm guessing they bounce passed the bill your way though. ;)

Flying Dutch

Quote from: sac on December 16, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
Way to post the score of the game you flew across the country to see FDF  ::)

Hope 64 Carthage 46

Close one at the half, Dutch hold the Red ..uh women? to 19 second half points.  Philana Green 18, Cowen 13, Bruinsma 10.   Must have played some D on Snikkers, held to 2 points and no FG's.

Carthage packed it inside on Snikkers and Knox.  The starting posts faced at least a double team whenever the ball came inside, and sometimes were triple teamed.  The refs let the Red play very physical to say the least - you can read between the lines if you want.  When the starting posts were not in the game the defense was more straight up.  The Dutch did have a 40-29  rebounding advantage with Knox pulling in 9 (+5 steals) and Snikkers 7.

Adjustments were made at half time - more intense defensive pressure and the posts pulled away from the basket opening up the inside for Greene and giving Cowen some good looks.  Bruinsma found the seams and made some really nice moves.

This was the best the second unit has played.  Defense was consistently strong and the offensive ball rotation was very good.  I think the Dutch are moving closer to a full two unit rotation with no drop off when the second group is on the floor.  Although Kutney only scored 2 points I think it was the best (and relatively foul free) defense I have seen her play.

Carthage is a good team and I think this game should be a wake up call to future opponents.  It may be possible to slow the post players (although I think in most games both 30 and 34 would have been sent to the line a lot more often)  but this is not a one dimensional team and over emphasis on one or two players just opens up opportunities for others.


Congrats to Cowen and Greene (MVP) for being named to the all tournament team.

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: sac on December 17, 2008, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on December 17, 2008, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: sac on December 16, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
Way to post the score of the game you flew across the country to see FDF  ::)

Not me - I'm stuck here in frigid Michigan.  Certain other posters (who shall remain nameless) are down in Florida, and have been providing game, as well as margarita updates.   ;D

My sincerest apologies, I'm guessing they bounce passed the bill your way though. ;)
But of course
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

hope1

nice 2 wins hope girls now come home to cold michigan
i love hope  sports all of them are really great to watch

sac

Well Albion is doing the best job at making my gushing statements about Hope's win there seem a bit .........foolish. :-[

Albion drops MIAA game #3 of the season 58-52 to Trine.

Mr. Ypsi

Not sure how often I'll have anything worth posting, but with IWU #2 and Hope #3 (currently), expect me to be at least a regular lurker.

Here's hoping for a meeting at DeVos in March. :)

WWWRHH

Quote from: sac on December 20, 2008, 07:22:06 PM
Well Albion is doing the best job at making my gushing statements about Hope's win there seem a bit .........foolish. :-[

Albion drops MIAA game #3 of the season 58-52 to Trine.

sac don't be too hard on yourself.  Although Albion is not as good as they were the last three years, the Dutch did play well on their court.  Looking at comp scores it seems there is broad parity among seven MIAA teams this year and they are sandwiched between the Dutch and Kalamazoo.  Trine and Adrian are much improved teams.

I haven't had a chance to examine every teams record, but it appears that the conference is doing better against non-conference opponents this year.  Albion is 4-1 against non-conference opponents.

The Dutch have also won against some tough opponents recently and at times have played outstanding stretches of ball.  These stretches of really good ball are occuring more frequently and the team is becoming more consistent.  There are no weak links in the top eight players (the other two members of the second rotation are improving), all can score and as the Carthage game showed, if the opponent puts all their effort into shutting down one aspect of the offense it only opens opportunities for other players to take control of the game.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 22, 2008, 12:12:42 AM
Not sure how often I'll have anything worth posting, but with IWU #2 and Hope #3 (currently), expect me to be at least a regular lurker.

Here's hoping for a meeting at DeVos in March. :)

I am looking forward to the IWU's games against Carthage and Elmhurst so we can get an indication of how IWU and the Dutch match up.