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realist

To get some perspective on CV I took a look back at C. Snikkers.  I could not find a stat sheet for her fr. year.  Checking on the Hope site I did not find her listed in any category as a record setting top contributor her first year.
She (CS) scored 431 points in 30 games last year, and pulled down 242 rebounds.
CV has 445 points in 24 games ytd, and 231 rebounds. 

Yes, it is indeed remarkable the fr. CV has been able to put up numbers equal to what last years mvp did as a so. 
Don't get me wrong I have tremendous respect for CS, and what she has done, and her ability.  I just didn't expect we would see another player of her caliber come along this quickly. 
I know it is dangerous to compare two players from different teams as the dynamics of each team are unique.  I don't doubt for a second that CS would have much better stats should it be necessary for her to play more.   Her individual accomplishments are reduced in favor of team accomplishments.

A quick check of CV's stats as a fr. versus Lisa Winkle's as a fr. show CV has greatly surpassed what it took for a fr. to make All MIAA that year.

"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

sac

Carrie missed 6 games of the MIAA season with a similar foot injury to this year her Freshmen year.

She averaged 7.4 pts and 5.9 rebounds while playing 15 mins per game overall.  Carrie only started 2 games as a Freshmen.

........she also played on a stacked team with 4 very talented Seniors.  There simply wasn't room in the starting 5, even for someone of her talents.

realist

Thanks for the stats, and reminding me of her injury as a fr.  It is really quite a feat for Hope to have so much talent stacked up they can take the time to develop them as players before being thrown into battle.
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Dark Knight

Wow, the last game of the season seems to result in some surprising results quite often.

Calvin defeated Alma 65-62.

The Hope-Adrian score is 54-54 with 53 seconds left. (Though the game is probably done --the live stats seem stuck.)

Snikkers has 20 points on 22 shots -- two more shots than it took Verkaik to reach 46 last game.


realist

Hope won the game 58-56.
Great way to finish a 16-0 season.  Now they have a fresh experience of a close game.
CS had 23 points, 2 blocks, and 12 rebounds in 26 minutes.
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Erm Schmigget

Whew!  That was too close for comfort.  Just a quick look at the stats and it looks like poor shooting--33.3%--from Hope was what kept it so close.  They certainly had their chances (69 shots, only 14 from 3) and limited Adrian (51 shots, 13 from 3), but they just couldn't make 'em count.  Just for fun, I looked at the stats from Calvin's game there and found very similar stats.  Calvin shot 34.4% with 64 shots (13 from 3) and limited Adrian to only 50 shots (8 from 3).  That game wasn't as close, because that time Adrian also shot only 36%, while today they managed to make 45.1%.

But, a win is a win.  Maybe they can chalk this one up to character-building.   ;)
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Dark Knight

Quote from: Erm Schmigget on February 20, 2010, 05:57:46 PM
Whew!  That was too close for comfort.  Just a quick look at the stats and it looks like poor shooting--33.3%--from Hope was what kept it so close.  They certainly had their chances (69 shots, only 14 from 3) and limited Adrian (51 shots, 13 from 3), but they just couldn't make 'em count.  Just for fun, I looked at the stats from Calvin's game there and found very similar stats.  Calvin shot 34.4% with 64 shots (13 from 3) and limited Adrian to only 50 shots (8 from 3).  That game wasn't as close, because that time Adrian also shot only 36%, while today they managed to make 45.1%.

Of course, Verkaik blocked 8 of the 50 shots that Adrian put up. That'll wreak havoc on any team's shooting percentage.  ;)

realist

Congrats to Ms. Verkiak for being pow. 
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

almcguirejr

1st round results

Hope 76 Alma 52
Calvin 76 Olivet 57
St Mary's 61 Albion 59
Adrian 62 Trine 57

Top 4 seeds move on

sac

Hope and Calvin played remarkably similar games.  When I checked livestats near halftime, Hope was up 41-14, Calvin 41-22.   

I don't know what Calvin's biggest lead was but Hope led by 38 with a little over 12 minutes to go.

In the previous meetings for the semi-final matchups.......

@Hope 77 Adrian 53
Hope 58 @Adrian 56

@Calvin 64  St. Mary's 58
Calvin 67  @St. Mary's 57

On Thursday

Adrian @ Hope
St. Mary's @ Calvin

realist

Calvin had a 28 pt. lead 4 times in the 2nd half.
Verkiak 15 pts. 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks in 21 minutes.
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: realist on February 23, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
Calvin had a 28 pt. lead 4 times in the 2nd half.
Verkiak 15 pts. 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks in 21 minutes.

I'll see your Verkaik, and raise you a Snikkers

15 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals in 17 minutes    8-)
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wiz

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 24, 2010, 08:32:38 AM
Quote from: realist on February 23, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
Calvin had a 28 pt. lead 4 times in the 2nd half.
Verkiak 15 pts. 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks in 21 minutes.

I'll see your Verkaik, and raise you a Snikkers

15 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals in 17 minutes    8-)

They are both really, really good players.  No one player, however, has had more individual impact on her team's success than Carissa.  She is a game changer and the most worthy player for league MVP this year.  I wouldn't be disappointed if the title is shared, but excluding Verkaik would be gross negligence.


realist

Quote from: gohope on February 24, 2010, 10:53:32 AM
Nice article from the Holland Sentinel:


http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/sports_hope/x1487806491/MIAA-Tournament-preview-Hopes-Greene-should-get-nod-as-league-MVP

I wonder if tomorrow Mr. Babbitt will write an article on how John Mantel is obviously the men's MIAA mvp becuase he is the mvp on the team that won the men's MIAA? ;) :P :P :P ;)
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.