WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Hwbb]

I have just gone over the DIII Hoops projection for the women's tournament about five times and can't find Calvin in the mix.  Are my weary eyes playing tricks on me, or is this an "oops" on DIII Hoops part?  I can't believe that Calvin didn't make DIII Hoop's projected field!!!!!

http://www.d3boards.com/playoffs/proj-wbbbracket2010.pdf

One presumes an oversight from weary DIIIers (Calvin didn't even make their list of teams left on the table).

Note that their bracket would also have Hope and IWU meeting before the Final Four (not at the Final Four location, if the NCAA were true to form).

And before that possible meeting with IWU, the D3 bracket has Hope potentially playing WashU--in other words, three of the top six D3 Hoops teams in the same quarter of the bracket.  Pat, help us out with the reasoning here, both for the projected stacked region and with the Calvin omission.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Calvin is now listed as a Pool C team on the list of projections. Didn't check the bracket but I think it was just an error.

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, someone pointed it out on the Hoopsville show and it was definitely an error. They should have been considered ahead of W&J. We took our Great Lakes teams out of order.

[Pat Coleman]

On the other question -- I went about it like the NCAA does in women's basketball. In the past few years they have picked top seeds that they want to protect, so to speak, and give the opportunity to meet in the Final Four. In my mind this year that was Amherst, Kean, Illinois Wesleyan and George Fox. (Could have been Hope, no doubt, instead of George Fox. I gave the defending champ a little weight there, all else being fairly equal.)

From there, I had to make some concessions for travel. I had determined that I wanted to keep GFOX from playing IWU in the Elite 8 so I had to move GFOX some distance. That ended up being to face the CNU portion of the bracket. KEAN and WPU matched up well, as did AMH and MRVN, which might well be the best No. 1 seed against the worst. Your mileage may vary. That left IWU and HOPE to match up with each other.

[Hwbb]

On the other question -- I went about it like the NCAA does in women's basketball. In the past few years they have picked top seeds that they want to protect, so to speak, and give the opportunity to meet in the Final Four. In my mind this year that was Amherst, Kean, Illinois Wesleyan and George Fox. (Could have been Hope, no doubt, instead of George Fox. I gave the defending champ a little weight there, all else being fairly equal.)

From there, I had to make some concessions for travel. I had determined that I wanted to keep GFOX from playing IWU in the Elite 8 so I had to move GFOX some distance. That ended up being to face the CNU portion of the bracket. KEAN and WPU matched up well, as did AMH and MRVN, which might well be the best No. 1 seed against the worst. Your mileage may vary. That left IWU and HOPE to match up with each other.

Thanks, Pat.

[sac]

On the other question -- I went about it like the NCAA does in women's basketball. In the past few years they have picked top seeds that they want to protect, so to speak, and give the opportunity to meet in the Final Four. In my mind this year that was Amherst, Kean, Illinois Wesleyan and George Fox. (Could have been Hope, no doubt, instead of George Fox. I gave the defending champ a little weight there, all else being fairly equal.)

From there, I had to make some concessions for travel. I had determined that I wanted to keep GFOX from playing IWU in the Elite 8 so I had to move GFOX some distance. That ended up being to face the CNU portion of the bracket. KEAN and WPU matched up well, as did AMH and MRVN, which might well be the best No. 1 seed against the worst. Your mileage may vary. That left IWU and HOPE to match up with each other.

Top seeds they wanted to 'protect'

So thats how undefeated Hope and undefeated Howard Payne met in the quarterfinals in 2008.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I'm also hoping that projected bracket is wrong.  I've got my heart set on watching IWU best Hope in the title game!

[NW Hope Fan]

On the other question -- I went about it like the NCAA does in women's basketball. In the past few years they have picked top seeds that they want to protect, so to speak, and give the opportunity to meet in the Final Four. In my mind this year that was Amherst, Kean, Illinois Wesleyan and George Fox. (Could have been Hope, no doubt, instead of George Fox. I gave the defending champ a little weight there, all else being fairly equal.)

From there, I had to make some concessions for travel. I had determined that I wanted to keep GFOX from playing IWU in the Elite 8 so I had to move GFOX some distance. That ended up being to face the CNU portion of the bracket. KEAN and WPU matched up well, as did AMH and MRVN, which might well be the best No. 1 seed against the worst. Your mileage may vary. That left IWU and HOPE to match up with each other.

Top seeds they wanted to 'protect'

So thats how undefeated Hope and undefeated Howard Payne met in the quarterfinals in 2008.

Come on SAC, what he meant to say was "protect, and not give home court advantage all the way to the final 4."

[Pat Coleman]

On the other question -- I went about it like the NCAA does in women's basketball. In the past few years they have picked top seeds that they want to protect, so to speak, and give the opportunity to meet in the Final Four. In my mind this year that was Amherst, Kean, Illinois Wesleyan and George Fox. (Could have been Hope, no doubt, instead of George Fox. I gave the defending champ a little weight there, all else being fairly equal.)

From there, I had to make some concessions for travel. I had determined that I wanted to keep GFOX from playing IWU in the Elite 8 so I had to move GFOX some distance. That ended up being to face the CNU portion of the bracket. KEAN and WPU matched up well, as did AMH and MRVN, which might well be the best No. 1 seed against the worst. Your mileage may vary. That left IWU and HOPE to match up with each other.

Top seeds they wanted to 'protect'

So thats how undefeated Hope and undefeated Howard Payne met in the quarterfinals in 2008.

Their seeds don't have to be the same as yours, Sac.

[ziggy]

On the other question -- I went about it like the NCAA does in women's basketball. In the past few years they have picked top seeds that they want to protect, so to speak, and give the opportunity to meet in the Final Four. In my mind this year that was Amherst, Kean, Illinois Wesleyan and George Fox. (Could have been Hope, no doubt, instead of George Fox. I gave the defending champ a little weight there, all else being fairly equal.)

From there, I had to make some concessions for travel. I had determined that I wanted to keep GFOX from playing IWU in the Elite 8 so I had to move GFOX some distance. That ended up being to face the CNU portion of the bracket. KEAN and WPU matched up well, as did AMH and MRVN, which might well be the best No. 1 seed against the worst. Your mileage may vary. That left IWU and HOPE to match up with each other.

Top seeds they wanted to 'protect'

So thats how undefeated Hope and undefeated Howard Payne met in the quarterfinals in 2008.

Their seeds don't have to be the same as yours, Sac.

Pat, I can't imagine trying to put together projections for the men's AND women's tournaments. When all this is over with you deserve a break!

[Pat Coleman]

Women's bracket posted: http://www.d3boards.com/playoffs/wbkb-bracket2010.pdf

[almcguirejr]

Calvin at St. Norbert would play the winner of Stevens Pt/Minnesota Morris

Hope hosting plays Denison would play the winner of DePauw/Lakeland

[sac]

Hope hosting DePauw..............chuckle

[sac]

good to see IWU hosting too   

[ChicagoHopeNut]

I can't get the women's bracket to open. Am I correct in my interpretation of the front-page that Hope and IWU would meet before the Final Four?