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[KNIGHTRHOPE]

I just returned from Bloomington also and was shocked to see in the GR RAG....Carrie Snikkers did NOT make first team all area girls squad for the small colleges in our area.   I have to credit that to IGNORANCE because other than that- the reporters are being biased or coerced.  REALLY....All-American last year as a sophomore and this year shuffled to second squad even tho her team does better and she has achieved what she has with an injured foot???  What a bunch of baloney.  I have watched her play over the years and all I can say is- If you are not that important to that team or representative of this area as a #1 player -I can guarantee you, Carrie, there are PLENTY of D1 programs that would love to have you even with only 1 Year of eligibility.  YOU DESERVE BETTER.  Like someone said in an earlier post- a very classy young lady.   Knowing you - you are probably fine with it-  but rest assured there are hundreds of people-maybe more that would name you best overall player for women in this area...!

How about putting BC from CU in her spot???or CVK from Calvin or JN from Aquinas? They would have been one and done.  IMO. 

YOU GO GIRL.  Make your family and school proud despite the ignorance portrayed by a select few.  I can see them eating crow now.  -hopefully choking on it...



OK...I feel better......GO HOPE

[AlwaysHope]

I just returned from Bloomington also and was shocked to see in the GR RAG....Carrie Snikkers did NOT make first team all area girls squad for the small colleges in our area.   I have to credit that to IGNORANCE because other than that- the reporters are being biased or coerced.  REALLY....All-American last year as a sophomore and this year shuffled to second squad even tho her team does better and she has achieved what she has with an injured foot???  What a bunch of baloney.  I have watched her play over the years and all I can say is- If you are not that important to that team or representative of this area as a #1 player -I can guarantee you, Carrie, there are PLENTY of D1 programs that would love to have you even with only 1 Year of eligibility.  YOU DESERVE BETTER.  Like someone said in an earlier post- a very classy young lady.   Knowing you - you are probably fine with it-  but rest assured there are hundreds of people-maybe more that would name you best overall player for women in this area...!

How about putting BC from CU in her spot???or CVK from Calvin or JN from Aquinas? They would have been one and done.  IMO.  

YOU GO GIRL.  Make your family and school proud despite the ignorance portrayed by a select few.  I can see them eating crow now.  -hopefully choking on it...



OK...I feel better......GO HOPE

Totally agree.  There are a lot of inconsistencies when selecting post-season teams.  How about this one.  Carrie is one of 40 finalists for All-American, but Carissa, who was the MIAA MVP, was nowhere to be found on this list.  Not to take anything away from Carissa, but why is she the MVP (which she deserved) while only Carrie is on the All-American list (which she definitely deserved).

http://www.wbca.org/releases/2010DIIISFCAATFinalistsPR.html

I guess that Carrie's revenge is that she is still playing!  I'll bet all the other first-teamers on the list cited would glady trade their first team recognition for the right to play next weekend!

[pointlem]

I just returned from Bloomington also and was shocked to see in the GR RAG....Carrie Snikkers did NOT make first team all area girls squad for the small colleges in our area.   I have to credit that to IGNORANCE because other than that- the reporters are being biased or coerced.  REALLY....All-American last year as a sophomore and this year shuffled to second squad even tho her team does better and she has achieved what she has with an injured foot???  What a bunch of baloney.  I have watched her play over the years and all I can say is- If you are not that important to that team or representative of this area as a #1 player -I can guarantee you, Carrie, there are PLENTY of D1 programs that would love to have you even with only 1 Year of eligibility.  YOU DESERVE BETTER.  Like someone said in an earlier post- a very classy young lady.   Knowing you - you are probably fine with it-  but rest assured there are hundreds of people-maybe more that would name you best overall player for women in this area...!

How about putting BC from CU in her spot???or CVK from Calvin or JN from Aquinas? They would have been one and done.  IMO.  

YOU GO GIRL.  Make your family and school proud despite the ignorance portrayed by a select few.  I can see them eating crow now.  -hopefully choking on it...



OK...I feel better......GO HOPE

Totally agree.  There are a lot of inconsistencies when selecting post-season teams.  How about this one.  Carrie is one of 40 finalists for All-American, but Carissa, who was the MIAA MVP, was nowhere to be found on this list.  Not to take anything away from Carissa, but why is she the MVP (which she deserved) while only Carrie is on the All-American list (which she definitely deserved).

http://www.wbca.org/releases/2010DIIISFCAATFinalistsPR.html

I guess that Carrie's revenge is that she is still playing!  I'll bet all the other first-teamers on the list cited would glady trade their first team recognition for the right to play next weekend!

Perhaps we should keep in mind that Carissa's well-deserved league MVP award was for the league season, a good part of which Carrie missed . . . and that whatever recognition Carrie will receive (also well-deserved) is for her entire season, from November to mid March.

[hope1]

hope plays at   8.00   friday michigan time

[AlwaysHope]

I just returned from Bloomington also and was shocked to see in the GR RAG....Carrie Snikkers did NOT make first team all area girls squad for the small colleges in our area.   I have to credit that to IGNORANCE because other than that- the reporters are being biased or coerced.  REALLY....All-American last year as a sophomore and this year shuffled to second squad even tho her team does better and she has achieved what she has with an injured foot???  What a bunch of baloney.  I have watched her play over the years and all I can say is- If you are not that important to that team or representative of this area as a #1 player -I can guarantee you, Carrie, there are PLENTY of D1 programs that would love to have you even with only 1 Year of eligibility.  YOU DESERVE BETTER.  Like someone said in an earlier post- a very classy young lady.   Knowing you - you are probably fine with it-  but rest assured there are hundreds of people-maybe more that would name you best overall player for women in this area...!

How about putting BC from CU in her spot???or CVK from Calvin or JN from Aquinas? They would have been one and done.  IMO.  

YOU GO GIRL.  Make your family and school proud despite the ignorance portrayed by a select few.  I can see them eating crow now.  -hopefully choking on it...



OK...I feel better......GO HOPE

Totally agree.  There are a lot of inconsistencies when selecting post-season teams.  How about this one.  Carrie is one of 40 finalists for All-American, but Carissa, who was the MIAA MVP, was nowhere to be found on this list.  Not to take anything away from Carissa, but why is she the MVP (which she deserved) while only Carrie is on the All-American list (which she definitely deserved).

http://www.wbca.org/releases/2010DIIISFCAATFinalistsPR.html

I guess that Carrie's revenge is that she is still playing!  I'll bet all the other first-teamers on the list cited would glady trade their first team recognition for the right to play next weekend!

Perhaps we should keep in mind that Carissa's well-deserved league MVP award was for the league season, a good part of which Carrie missed . . . and that whatever recognition Carrie will receive (also well-deserved) is for her entire season, from November to mid March.

Yes, I considered that, but I think the point is still valid.

Having said that, does post-season play help determine who is All-American?  Or is the voting done by only considering regular season accomplishments?

[gohope]

I just returned from Bloomington also and was shocked to see in the GR RAG....Carrie Snikkers did NOT make first team all area girls squad for the small colleges in our area.   I have to credit that to IGNORANCE because other than that- the reporters are being biased or coerced.  REALLY....All-American last year as a sophomore and this year shuffled to second squad even tho her team does better and she has achieved what she has with an injured foot???  What a bunch of baloney.  I have watched her play over the years and all I can say is- If you are not that important to that team or representative of this area as a #1 player -I can guarantee you, Carrie, there are PLENTY of D1 programs that would love to have you even with only 1 Year of eligibility.  YOU DESERVE BETTER.  Like someone said in an earlier post- a very classy young lady.   Knowing you - you are probably fine with it-  but rest assured there are hundreds of people-maybe more that would name you best overall player for women in this area...!

How about putting BC from CU in her spot???or CVK from Calvin or JN from Aquinas? They would have been one and done.  IMO. 

YOU GO GIRL.  Make your family and school proud despite the ignorance portrayed by a select few.  I can see them eating crow now.  -hopefully choking on it...



OK...I feel better......GO HOPE

Do you have a link to that story, I couldn't find it?  Thanks!

[Pat Coleman]

I can't speak for the WBCA team but the D3hoops.com All-American team does consider the postseason, yes.

All-Region does not, just because of the timing required.

[almcguirejr]

I just returned from Bloomington also and was shocked to see in the GR RAG....Carrie Snikkers did NOT make first team all area girls squad for the small colleges in our area.   I have to credit that to IGNORANCE because other than that- the reporters are being biased or coerced.  REALLY....All-American last year as a sophomore and this year shuffled to second squad even tho her team does better and she has achieved what she has with an injured foot???  What a bunch of baloney.  I have watched her play over the years and all I can say is- If you are not that important to that team or representative of this area as a #1 player -I can guarantee you, Carrie, there are PLENTY of D1 programs that would love to have you even with only 1 Year of eligibility.  YOU DESERVE BETTER.  Like someone said in an earlier post- a very classy young lady.   Knowing you - you are probably fine with it-  but rest assured there are hundreds of people-maybe more that would name you best overall player for women in this area...!

How about putting BC from CU in her spot???or CVK from Calvin or JN from Aquinas? They would have been one and done.  IMO.  

YOU GO GIRL.  Make your family and school proud despite the ignorance portrayed by a select few.  I can see them eating crow now.  -hopefully choking on it...



OK...I feel better......GO HOPE

Do you have a link to that story, I couldn't find it?  Thanks!

Here's the link:

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2010/03/ferris_states_justin_keenan_le.html

[Flying Dutch Fan]

FWIW - stat comparison for Hope & Rochester.  Wish we would have gotten the early game on Friday, given the short turn around for the game on Saturday.  Fortunately Hope is pretty deep.

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
Hope	46.1	31.2	70.3
Rochester	41.3	30.8	66.2
Defense	% 2pt	% 3pt
Hope	35	23.7
Rochester	34.2	31.1
Rebounding	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	43.4	38.2	5.2
Rochester	43.2	38.1	5.1
Scoring	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	73.9	51.6	22.3
Rochester	62.5	57.1	5.4
3 point shooting	Attempts	Made	Made/game
Hope	593	185	5.8
Rochester	504	155	5.3
Blocks	Total	per game
Hope	198	6.2
Rochester	150	5.2
Steals	Total	per game
Hope	499	15.6
Rochester	223	7.7
Turnovers	Total	per game
Hope	594	18.6
Rochester	550	19
Assists	Total	per game
Hope	479	15
Rochester	440	15.2
Assist/Turnover
Hope	0.81
Rochester	0.8

[ChicagoHopeNut]

When is Saturday's final set for? 3PM? I couldn't find any info on IWU's website.

[dothedew]

HOPE PLAYS FRI NIGHT AT 8PM ET (first game at 6PM ET)
On Sat, the third place game is at 12 ET and the championship game is at 3pm ET
(per the Hope.edu/athletics website)
Tickets which cover the whole weekend are 20 for adults and 15 for seniors/students.
According to the Hope ticket office, hope has 500 tickets and will be available at 1pm TUESDAY.
Remember, there are always other ways to get tickets...go to ILL WESLY this week and get them if you live down there....or try calling ILL WESLY to buy G.A. tickets.
4 years ago I went to the game and it was all general admission, does anyone have any news if it will be the same for this weekend?
Either way...it's gonna be fun...I plan/HOPE to be there....
GO HOPE!

[dothedew]

To be fair...I read on a different d3 message board that Hope is the first game...so who the heck knows....Below is the Hope link that has them playing at 8pm ET on Friday night.
http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/

[gordonmann]

Hope plays the second game, which tips at 7 pm central time/8 pm eastern time.

I believe the final is at 2 pm central time/3 pm eastern time on Saturday.

[NW Hope Fan]

HOPE PLAYS FRI NIGHT AT 8PM ET (first game at 6PM ET)
On Sat, the third place game is at 12 ET and the championship game is at 3pm ET
(per the Hope.edu/athletics website)
Tickets which cover the whole weekend are 20 for adults and 15 for seniors/students.
According to the Hope ticket office, hope has 500 tickets and will be available at 1pm TUESDAY.
Remember, there are always other ways to get tickets...go to ILL WESLY this week and get them if you live down there....or try calling ILL WESLY to buy G.A. tickets.
4 years ago I went to the game and it was all general admission, does anyone have any news if it will be the same for this weekend?
Either way...it's gonna be fun...I plan/HOPE to be there....
GO HOPE!

With Shirk having 2680 seats for basketball, I'm sure there will be plenty.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

HOPE PLAYS FRI NIGHT AT 8PM ET (first game at 6PM ET)
On Sat, the third place game is at 12 ET and the championship game is at 3pm ET
(per the Hope.edu/athletics website)
Tickets which cover the whole weekend are 20 for adults and 15 for seniors/students.
According to the Hope ticket office, hope has 500 tickets and will be available at 1pm TUESDAY.
Remember, there are always other ways to get tickets...go to ILL WESLY this week and get them if you live down there....or try calling ILL WESLY to buy G.A. tickets.
4 years ago I went to the game and it was all general admission, does anyone have any news if it will be the same for this weekend?
Either way...it's gonna be fun...I plan/HOPE to be there....
GO HOPE!

With Shirk having 2680 seats for basketball, I'm sure there will be plenty.

Probably correct, but keep in mind that WashU travels well, and is only 108 miles away.  From what I have heard, seats are sudo-general admission.   Your ticket will get you a seat in a specific section(s), but which seat is up to you (and when you get there).  Hope will have several of these sections.