WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

Mr. Ypsi · December 20, 2010, 05:05:41 PM

Regardless of 'd3 philosophy' or 'sportsmanship', as a practical matter if the bench can't see the floor even in blow-outs (either way), how long will there BE a bench?

At IWU my junior year, I was 7th man on a tennis team where none of the first 6 ever missed a match (and I was not allowed to challenge for a spot during the season, after the guy who beat me out for 6th man needed something well over 100 games to beat me in three sets and was too sore to play the first match

), so I NEVER saw the court.

My senior year, three new freshmen (based on fall pickup games) were clearly going to be among the top 4 slots (and only 1 or 2 seniors had graduated) so I did not return that year. (Though that turned out to be a mistake as several other players also did not - including the three freshmen - and I probably would have played 3rd or 4th! Ah, well, to be honest if I was 3rd or 4th, the team was destined for a VERY poor season!

)

realist · December 21, 2010, 11:16:15 AM

Congrats to Ms. Verkaik for getting POW. Watching that game, but not tracking the stats I was surprised by the final numbers. The MIAA is really blessed to have so many high quality players.

gohope · December 29, 2010, 07:47:28 PM

It's a Final!!

Hope 49
Wash U 47

I checked in on the live stats a number of times during the game, but from the quick look at things, the game was a see-saw battle. Congrats to the Flying Dutch on a pretty sweet victory!

If anyone has updates, please share!!!

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A quick glance at some stats:

HOPE WashU
FG 31.5 32.3
3pt 22.2 9.1
FT 61.1 50.0
Reb 50 36
TO's 23 14

Flying Dutch Fan · December 30, 2010, 08:40:17 AM

Followed the game last night via live stats while watching the RDV tournament in Holland. It was kind of funny that about 2 minutes into the Hope/Marygrove game, Marygrove was bringing the ball up court when a huge cheer went out from the crowd as the womens final was posted.

Kudos to Carrie Snikkers on an outstanding game. 13 points, 14 rebounds, 2 blocks, 3 steals, and ZERO fouls in 30 minutes.

WWWRHH · December 30, 2010, 11:04:40 AM

We seriously considered making the road trip to Ohio for last nights game, but in the end work obligations got in the way. However, we were able to watch the live computer feed of the game. Those that were there may be able to provide better insight, but I will start the conversation with a few observations.

It was a see-saw game and more of a defensive battle with both teams shooting percentages well below expectations. The Dutch were painfully bad from three point range and Snikkkers had a difficult time getting even inside shots to fall. I attribute the low scoring to tough defense on the part of both teams and the long layoff since the last game. Hope has seemed to struggle in the first game after break so it was a break through to perform well against another tough team.

This was an important match against a tough opponent that will help prepare the Dutch both physically and psychologically for the post-season.

It also appeared that the standard rotation was abandoned late in the game in favor or a strong defensive / rebounding lineup. Snikkers and Geers played big minutes (30 /28) and Kussmal was in the lineup with Snikkers in the closing minutes. So it looked like Morehouse managed this game more like a national tournament game and went with those players that provided the skill set needed to win this particular game.

realist · December 30, 2010, 04:09:17 PM

It was a good win for Hope against a very, very good team.

hope1 · December 30, 2010, 04:26:09 PM

yes what a really nice win

Flying Dutch Fan · December 30, 2010, 04:46:54 PM

Hope over OWU 85-58 - and it wasn't that close.

Geers, Bruinsma, and Snikkers on the all-tournament team

realist · December 30, 2010, 05:18:40 PM

Calvin wins their first game in CA. 59 to 36. Lots of players, lots of minutes. Looks like tomorrows game will be a bit tougher.

wwjjdd · December 30, 2010, 05:43:40 PM

Quote from: WWWRHH on December 30, 2010, 11:04:40 AM
We seriously considered making the road trip to Ohio for last nights game, but in the end work obligations got in the way. However, we were able to watch the live computer feed of the game. Those that were there may be able to provide better insight, but I will start the conversation with a few observations.

It was a see-saw game and more of a defensive battle with both teams shooting percentages well below expectations. The Dutch were painfully bad from three point range and Snikkkers had a difficult time getting even inside shots to fall. I attribute the low scoring to tough defense on the part of both teams and the long layoff since the last game. Hope has seemed to struggle in the first game after break so it was a break through to perform well against another tough team.

This was an important match against a tough opponent that will help prepare the Dutch both physically and psychologically for the post-season.

It also appeared that the standard rotation was abandoned late in the game in favor or a strong defensive / rebounding lineup. Snikkers and Geers played big minutes (30 /28) and Kussmal was in the lineup with Snikkers in the closing minutes. So it looked like Morehouse managed this game more like a national tournament game and went with those players that provided the skill set needed to win this particular game.

That's why "Mo's da man!!!!!!!"

wwjjdd · December 30, 2010, 10:59:37 PM

Nice story about the former coach at George Fox and one of the players who thwarted the Flying Dutch's hopes of playing for the national championship before the home crowd two years ago.

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/sports/25700326-41/osu-rueck-basketball-coach-indendi.csp

AlwaysHope · January 10, 2011, 12:12:19 AM

Here's a unique stat re. the Hope vs. Adrian boxscore on Sat. Hope wins, 73-47, but the five starters score a grand total of 23 points, leaving 50 points for the bench. Top three scorers all came off the bench, with only one in double figures with 13.

jspiii · January 10, 2011, 02:19:27 PM

Tidbits from the Hope College Hoops luncheon:
In attendance: Coach Morehouse; Players: Kust & Ellis
1. GPA's: Kust - 4.0 Ellis - 3.8
2. Team has been tested for 1 1/2 games so far.
3. Referred to week of 1/16 - 1/22 as Championship week, 1/18@Calvin, 1/20@Albion and 1/22 against someone, oh yeah Alma@Hope. Morehouse wasn't too concerned about this game.
4.Injuries: Kust: Recovering from a hip flexor injury which she has playing through.
Snikkers: Knee, limited in practice but shouldn't affect game minutes. Getting better.
5.Recruiting: Looking at more out-of-state recruits than in-state. Competition tough for players against Davenport, Aquinas, Cornerstone & Grand Valley.

realist · January 10, 2011, 05:32:51 PM

Thanks jspiii.

gohope · January 10, 2011, 06:55:12 PM

Quote from: jspiii on January 10, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
Tidbits from the Hope College Hoops luncheon:
In attendance: Coach Morehouse; Players: Kust & Ellis
1. GPA's: Kust - 4.0 Ellis - 3.8
2. Team has been tested for 1 1/2 games so far.
3. Referred to week of 1/16 - 1/22 as Championship week, 1/18@Calvin, 1/20@Albion and 1/22 against someone, oh yeah Alma@Hope. Morehouse wasn't too concerned about this game.
4.Injuries: Kust: Recovering from a hip flexor injury which she has playing through.
Snikkers: Knee, limited in practice but shouldn't affect game minutes. Getting better.
5.Recruiting: Looking at more out-of-state recruits than in-state. Competition tough for players against Davenport, Aquinas, Cornerstone & Grand Valley.

I echo the Kudos - Thanks jspiii