WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[sflzman]

leaving Angola today I tuned into the radio coverage of the Trine/Kzoo women's game (excellent coverage btw) and the announcers kept saying Trine needed to win to avoid a play-in game.

Did I have the tie-breakers wrong, because the way I read them there was no possibility for a play-in game and Trine had already clinched a tournament spot?  moot anyway but still that bugged me.

Yeah I also thought Trine had clinched but looking at it you had it eliminating Albion due to the fact that they lost to Alma twice and Trine twice.  BUT in fact Albion actually beat Alma twice...therefore a three way tie between Alma Albion and Trine would have resulted in a play in game between two of the teams (which two I don't know)

[sac]

I believe Britanny Berry is now leading the nation in 3 pt FG %, she's shooting 50-102 for 49% from behind the arc.

She should be the leader, her 50 made 3's puts her at the NCAA minimum for inclusion in the leaders category.

last week 47.3 was the leader.

[jspiii]

I believe Britanny Berry is now leading the nation in 3 pt FG %, she's shooting 50-102 for 49% from behind the arc.

The last 9 games, Berry has been 32 for 50, at a 64% clip.

[pointlem]

I hope she's not reading this, because I don't want to make her self-conscious . . . but I see that there's no DII player who equals Brittany's 49.0 season 3-point percentage, and only one DI player (from U. of Connecticut) who surpasses her (at 49.3% as of today). 

I believe Britanny Berry is now leading the nation in 3 pt FG %, she's shooting 50-102 for 49% from behind the arc.

She should be the leader, her 50 made 3's puts her at the NCAA minimum for inclusion in the leaders category.

last week 47.3 was the leader.

[sac]

Hope set the all-time league record for fewest points allowed in league play.
41.2 points, 660 points in 16 games.

The previous mark was 43.3 in just 6 games by Adrian in 1979.


Hope kind of blew that one away.

[anchor]

On the topic of "the coin toss."  Both teams are deserving of the number 1 seed.  Could the winner of the coin toss chose A.  home court advantage OR B. who they want to play in the first game #3 seed or #4 seed?  The "loser" of the coin toss choses the other option.  Just a thought.  Seems wrong to "punish" the MIAA champion with NO home court AND playing the #3 seed.

[bballforever]

We finally made it to a Hope/Calvin game and all I can say is defense beats offense every time!!!

[Roundball999]

On the topic of "the coin toss."  Both teams are deserving of the number 1 seed.  Could the winner of the coin toss chose A.  home court advantage OR B. who they want to play in the first game #3 seed or #4 seed?  The "loser" of the coin toss choses the other option.  Just a thought.  Seems wrong to "punish" the MIAA champion with NO home court AND playing the #3 seed.

I like that idea.

Better yet, would still prefer some on the court tiebreaker.  Head to head point differential; regional ranking, or something else that the teams have at least some control over.   Maybe I'd feel differently if Calvin hadn't won the last two coin flips

[pointlem]

So . . . how about, in the spirit of equity, going to the school that lost the previous coin toss, and alternating thereafter. 

Or if that doesn't work, maybe having the two coaches meet center court for a rocks/paper/sissors face off? 

On the topic of "the coin toss."  Both teams are deserving of the number 1 seed.  Could the winner of the coin toss chose A.  home court advantage OR B. who they want to play in the first game #3 seed or #4 seed?  The "loser" of the coin toss choses the other option.  Just a thought.  Seems wrong to "punish" the MIAA champion with NO home court AND playing the #3 seed.

I like that idea.

Better yet, would still prefer some on the court tiebreaker.  Head to head point differential; regional ranking, or something else that the teams have at least some control over.   Maybe I'd feel differently if Calvin hadn't won the last two coin flips

[bballforever]

Or how about a free throw shooting contest, Ross verses Morehouse?  Winner gets home court

[bballfan13]

On the topic of "the coin toss."  Both teams are deserving of the number 1 seed.  Could the winner of the coin toss chose A.  home court advantage OR B. who they want to play in the first game #3 seed or #4 seed?  The "loser" of the coin toss choses the other option.  Just a thought.  Seems wrong to "punish" the MIAA champion with NO home court AND playing the #3 seed.

I like that idea.

Better yet, would still prefer some on the court tiebreaker.  Head to head point differential; regional ranking, or something else that the teams have at least some control over.   Maybe I'd feel differently if Calvin hadn't won the last two coin flips

As a Calvin supporter I have been happy with the outcome of the last 2 coin flips   But I would feel the same way as you if I was on the opposite side.  This tiebreaker of a coin flip needs to be changed, it is just not the way to go.  Why not adapt the same tiebreakers as the men's side does?  That would make logical sense I think.  Sac also played out those results in an earlier post I believe.

[bballfan13]

We finally made it to a Hope/Calvin game and all I can say is defense beats offense every time!!!

Hope's defense was impressive and made Calvin's offense struggle.  I just have a hard time with this statement because of the earlier result at Calvin, so I wouldn't say every time.

Saturday's game should be a great one (assuming both Calvin and Hope win on Wednesday).

[Roundball999]

We finally made it to a Hope/Calvin game and all I can say is defense beats offense every time!!!

Hope's defense was impressive and made Calvin's offense struggle.  I just have a hard time with this statement because of the earlier result at Calvin, so I wouldn't say every time.

Saturday's game should be a great one (assuming both Calvin and Hope win on Wednesday).

Calvin's offense is really tough but let's not forget they have a pretty impressive defense too.  One of the top teams in the nation in blocked shots and when they stepped up their defense in the 2nd half they really gave Hope trouble.  Some of that may have been Hope getting passive on offense with the big lead, but it looked to me like Calvin was making it awfully tough for the Flying Dutch to run their sets.

I agree about Saturday's game if both Calvin and Hope make it.  I also agree with someone's earlier post begging the NCAA to put please these two teams on opposite sides of the bracket.

[bballforever]

I agree with the comment that most of the lack of Hope scoring in the second half was more due to them being passive than Calvin great defense.

[sac]

On the topic of "the coin toss."  Both teams are deserving of the number 1 seed.  Could the winner of the coin toss chose A.  home court advantage OR B. who they want to play in the first game #3 seed or #4 seed?  The "loser" of the coin toss choses the other option.  Just a thought.  Seems wrong to "punish" the MIAA champion with NO home court AND playing the #3 seed.

I like that idea.

Better yet, would still prefer some on the court tiebreaker.  Head to head point differential; regional ranking, or something else that the teams have at least some control over.   Maybe I'd feel differently if Calvin hadn't won the last two coin flips

As a Calvin supporter I have been happy with the outcome of the last 2 coin flips   But I would feel the same way as you if I was on the opposite side.  This tiebreaker of a coin flip needs to be changed, it is just not the way to go.  Why not adapt the same tiebreakers as the men's side does?  That would make logical sense I think. Sac also played out those results in an earlier post I believe.

Had they adopted the men's tie-breakers

2. In cases where two or more teams conclude MIAA play with identical league records, the ties would be broken using the following criteria:
   a. Head to Head
   b. Combined record vs. the teams ahead of the tied teams in the standings.
   c. Record against 1st place team, then 2nd place team, etc....all the way through the standings.
   d. Total conference road wins
   e. Individual road records against conference schools, starting with the 1st place team, then 2nd place team, etc...all the way through the standings.
  f. Record in second half of conference season (last 7 games).
   g. In-Region win total.
   h. Coin Flip.

F.  would have have given the tie-break to Hope, (it would read last 8 games)

The men's tie-breakers make it nearly impossible to ever reach the point of tossing a coin.


On another note, the women's tie-breakers though shorter is much more wordy.