WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Roundball999]

On another note, the women's tie-breakers though shorter is much more wordy.

Oh, that's a setup and I'm not going to touch it.  I'm in enough trouble after Valentine's Day.... 

[Calvinhoops]

We finally made it to a Hope/Calvin game and all I can say is defense beats offense every time!!!

....the topic is interesting,  I looked up Calvin's stats last year to this year.  Last year they gave up 48 points and averaged 40 rebounds, 7 blocks and 11 steals and scored 71 points but they did play an easier schedule.  This year they give up 53 and average 41, 6.5, and 11 but score 78.  Calvin won 2 out of 3 last year and have split this year.  Arguably Hope has the better defense but Calvin has won 5 out of the last 8.    Saturday will be very interesting!

[realist]

Hope up to # 2 this week, and Calvin down to # 3.

[Roundball999]

Hope up to # 2 this week, and Calvin down to # 3.

Once again, the voters are showing great respect to these two teams.  One beats the other and, unlike many polls, the team that lost doesn't plummet in the rankings.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Hope up to # 2 this week, and Calvin down to # 3.

Once again, the voters are showing great respect to these two teams.  One beats the other and, unlike many polls, the team that lost doesn't plummet in the rankings.

Yeah, the men's voters (mostly a different group of voters) did the same - Middlebury lost in 3OT to Amherst but only went down one slot.

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah, the men's voters (mostly a different group of voters) did the same - Middlebury lost in 3OT to Amherst but only went down one slot.

Basically entirely a different group of voters. I'm the only person who votes in both anymore. That's part of the reason why the poll almost always comes out before dinnertime now -- when Mark Simon wrote Around the Nation he voted in both polls and there was at least one SID who voted in both, and that is a lot of time for someone to devote to the vote.

[sac]

Attendance at the Hope/Calvin women's game was 3,400+

On that same day Michigan hosted Michigan State and drew 5,800, prior to that Michigan's largest crowd for a women's game had been 2,842 against Penn State.

[Roundball999]

Attendance at the Hope/Calvin women's game was 3,400+

On that same day Michigan hosted Michigan State and drew 5,800, prior to that Michigan's largest crowd for a women's game had been 2,842 against Penn State.

2973 attended Hope at Calvin earlier this season.  2815 attended Calvin at Hope last year.  Maybe we can pack Van Noord on Saturday?  Might be tough to get the fans to come out for two championship games the same day (women at 3:00 pm, men at 7:30 pm)

[northb]

On the topic of "the coin toss."  Both teams are deserving of the number 1 seed.  Could the winner of the coin toss chose A.  home court advantage OR B. who they want to play in the first game #3 seed or #4 seed?  The "loser" of the coin toss choses the other option.  Just a thought.  Seems wrong to "punish" the MIAA champion with NO home court AND playing the #3 seed.

I like that idea.

Better yet, would still prefer some on the court tiebreaker.  Head to head point differential; regional ranking, or something else that the teams have at least some control over.   Maybe I'd feel differently if Calvin hadn't won the last two coin flips

As a Calvin supporter I have been happy with the outcome of the last 2 coin flips   But I would feel the same way as you if I was on the opposite side.  This tiebreaker of a coin flip needs to be changed, it is just not the way to go.  Why not adapt the same tiebreakers as the men's side does?  That would make logical sense I think.  Sac also played out those results in an earlier post I believe.

Calvin's coin toss defensive strategy is impressive

[bballforever]

Is that what happened, Hope got to call toss again? 

[bballfan13]

Congratulations to Carissa Verkaik on being named Capital One Academic All-American of the Year:

http://www.calvin.edu/sports/news/comments/carissa-verkaik-named-division-iii-capital-one-academic-all-american-of-the/

[Roundball999]

Congratulations to Carissa Verkaik on being named Capital One Academic All-American of the Year:

http://www.calvin.edu/sports/news/comments/carissa-verkaik-named-division-iii-capital-one-academic-all-american-of-the/

Fabulous accomplishment, well-deserved congratulations to Ms. Verkaik.

[realist]

Congratulations to Carissa Verkaik on being named Capital One Academic All-American of the Year:

http://www.calvin.edu/sports/news/comments/carissa-verkaik-named-division-iii-capital-one-academic-all-american-of-the/

Fabulous accomplishment, well-deserved congratulations to Ms. Verkaik.

Yes indeeed.  Very nice way to cap off her career.  I am sure a few more awards etc. will come her way before it is all finished.

[bballfan13]

Newest regional rankings are out:

1   Ohio Northern   23-0   24-1
2   DePauw   19-0   25-0
3   Hope 21-1   24-1
4   Calvin   18-1   22-2
5   Thomas More   24-1   24-1
6   La Roche   21-2   22-2
7   Otterbein   19-5   20-5
8   Franklin   19-4   21-4

I couldn't disagree more with how they put Hope above Calvin.  Yes Hope did just win last weekend but the numbers do not add up.  Calvin's SOS is .511 and Hope's is .494.  Calvin is 2-1 vs regionally ranked opponents while Hope is 1-1.  I think the committee got it wrong here.

But the good thing is all of this will be taken care of if Calvin and Hope meet on Saturday.  I see the winner getting the #3 spot in the final rankings, unless Ohion Northern or DePauw lose (which is not likely).  This will be big as I don't see the NCAA giving anyone below a #3 in the regional rankings the chance to host.  It seems to be rare that they even give a #3 the chance to host, but they did 2 years ago with Hope.

[Calvinhoops]

I think head to head means more than SOS and Hope deserves it right now.   But as you said, after Saturday it will be very clear.