WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Flying Dutch Fan]

So much for that  - instead, Calvin get's to go for some revenge (from VB) vs St. Thomas in the first round, while Hope is hosting and faces Wheaton in round 1.

[Erm Schmigget]

The good:  Hope hosting this weekend.

The bad:  Calvin in the same quarter of the bracket, meaning only one MIAA rep getting to the Final Four.

The ugly:  DePauw.  On the bright side, we won't have to (potentially) worry about them until the final.  Come to think of it, that would still be ugly.

[sac]

Hope hosting Wheaton (Ill.)
Calvin heading to Cornell (IA) to face St. Thomas

Potential sweet 16 matchup for Calvin-Hope 4

in Iowa or Wisconsin?

To clarify this, if Simpson advances it would require a flight to Iowa for both Hope and Calvin, or a flight for Simpson to Holland or GR.   If Whitewater advances they would be the logical host to avoid flights.

[sac]

Well as far as hosting sites, they didn't give one to the Calvin/Thomas More/LaRoche threesome which kind of points to what I was saying, there just weren't enough teams in the this part of the country.

Instead of using LaRoche or Thomas More as a bridge to the East they used Rhodes as a bridge to the South.

On the bright side they separated DePauw from Hope/Calvin/Ohio Northern/Thomas More, its not much but its something I guess.

[sac]

I suppose it can be said now but Ohio Northern was the school that didn't submit paper work to host.  ONU is hosting the NCAA wrestling regional this weekend in Ada so their gym is kind of taken.

Otherwise, Hope would have been on the road.

[pointlem]

If I'm reading the bracket correctly, Calvin and Hope would potentially meet in the 3rd round (Friday) game . . . when that bracket could as well, with no travel difference, have been organized to have them meet in the 4th round (quarterfinal) game.  Or am I misreading?

Calvin doesn't get home-court, but also doesn't have to face in the first weekend a team as highly ranked as ONU.

Hope hosting Wheaton (Ill.)
Calvin heading to Cornell (IA) to face St. Thomas

Potential sweet 16 matchup for Calvin-Hope 4

[Hwbb]

Thanks again to Pat Coleman and the folks at d3hoops for a projected bracket that, while sane and hopeful, was again simply wishful thinking in the face of the committee's logic (?). #2, #3, #4, and #7 in the country one quad (using last week's rankings, because the new ones aren't up yet), along with four other ranked teams. #2 vs. #4 in the country in a second-round game. Make perfect non-sense. Are we missing something, pat, or do these folks simply not care?

[Happy Calvin Guy]

So much for that  - instead, Calvin get's to go for some revenge (from VB) vs St. Thomas in the first round,

Even more relevent, in basketball St. Thomas bounced the Lady Knights in the Elite Eight round last year. 

[bballfan13]

So much for that  - instead, Calvin get's to go for some revenge (from VB) vs St. Thomas in the first round,

Even more relevent, in basketball St. Thomas bounced the Lady Knights in the Elite Eight round last year.

And even more relevant.  Calvin beat St. Thomas in the first game of the season this year 78-72 on a neutral court.  Will be a tough first round matchup though, that's for sure!

[Hwbb]

Thanks again to Pat Coleman and the folks at d3hoops for a projected bracket that, while sane and hopeful, was again simply wishful thinking in the face of the committee's logic (?). #2, #3, #4, and #7 in the country one quad (using last week's rankings, because the new ones aren't up yet), along with four other ranked teams. #2 vs. #4 in the country in a second-round game. Make perfect non-sense. Are we missing something, pat, or do these folks simply not care?

And while I'm asking unanswerable questions, this one as well: how is it that a committee who stresses regional rankings and success against regional opponents puts together in one part of the bracket the four Great Lakes teams that actually have wins over regionally ranked opponents (Ohio Northern, Hope, Calvin, and Thomas More) and puts together in another part of the bracket the three Great Lakes teams without any wins against regionally ranked opponents (DePauw, LaRoche, and Otterbein).  And then matches the two teams with the most wins against RRO the soonest (second round). Seems to suggest the committee actually put minimal value in  their own regional rankings. I'm confused, Pat and others. What am I missing?

[sac]

All-miaa team

http://miaa.org/sports/wbkb/2012-13/index

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Hwbb - very valid questions, but I understand that while those criteria are used to determine who is in the field, I don't believe they necessarily are applied for who plays who, and hosts. Those determinations include other factors like who put in a bid to host, distances to be traveled, etc. not that I at all support this, but it is "their reality".

[realist]

All-miaa team

http://miaa.org/sports/wbkb/2012-13/index

Thanks.  Not many posters have been around since the advent of MIAA women's bball, and  I am sure not many people really understand how significant CV's winning the MVP for the 4the straight year really is.  It has happened once in men's bball, and maybe once or twice in another sport, but to be a 4 time All MIAA is special, and to be MVP 4 years in a row marks a player as just about a once in a generation player ( if not once in a life time).  I am very thankful that I got to see Mark Veenstra do it on the men's side, and now Carissa Verkaik has done it on the women's side. 

[hope1]

good luck to  hope and calvin this week

[pointlem]

From d3Hoops: 
"The committee seems insistent on having conference teams meet in in the Sweet 16 whenever possible. Amherst and Tufts are slated to meet in the third round, when a quick and free change could have put them together in the Elite Eight. Similarly, UW-Stevens Point and UW-Whitewater as well as Hope and Calvin could meet in the Sweet 16 rather than swapping positions in the bracket and meeting in the Elite Eight."

Any idea why the committee did this--assuming it was intentional?  Why have teams like these bracketed to meet on the 2nd Friday (3rd round) rather than 2nd Saturday (quarterfinal round)? 

I also wonder if Hope and Calvin coaches and ADs ask the NCAA to delay their meeting up.  Perhaps not.