WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Roundball999]

Calvin wins 96-62 down at St. Mary's.  Great road win and now on to Wednesday night against Hope.

Seems to me that Calvin has been firing on all cylinders in recent weeks while Hope has been a little less consistent.  If Hope brings their A game (like 1st half at Albion recently) then I expect another game like the nailbiter at DeVos a few weeks back.  Otherwise I think we're looking at a comfortable Calvin win hosting at VNA.

[sac]

Trine women are having a Zebra Appreciation Night tonight.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Trine women are having a Zebra Appreciation Night tonight.

Like zoo animals or the ones with whistles?

[bballfan13]

Regional rankings are out for this week.  Calvin stays at #2 and Hope drops to #5.  The rankings do not include games from this week.

[bballfan13]

Great win by Calvin last night over Hope.  It was a tough night shooting for both teams but Calvin's offense stepped up enough and their defense really locked down on Hope.  Congrats to the Knights on winning the outright MIAA title last night.

[Roundball999]

Regional rankings are out for this week.  Calvin stays at #2 and Hope drops to #5.  The rankings do not include games from this week.

Always scratch my head at the screwy NCAA rankings.  John Carroll jumps ahead of Hope with a worse record including much worse performance against common opponents: 1 pt win over Kzoo (Hope avg margin +11 in 2 games vs Kzoo), 3 point win over Adrian (Hope avg margin +18 in two games vs Adrian); loss by 9 at Capital (Hope won by 9 at Capital).  Hope also quite a few places higher on Massey, I know that's not a factor for NCAA, just another data point.  Go figure.

[sac]

Regional rankings are out for this week.  Calvin stays at #2 and Hope drops to #5.  The rankings do not include games from this week.

Always scratch my head at the screwy NCAA rankings.  John Carroll jumps ahead of Hope with a worse record including much worse performance against common opponents: 1 pt win over Kzoo (Hope avg margin +11 in 2 games vs Kzoo), 3 point win over Adrian (Hope avg margin +18 in two games vs Adrian); loss by 9 at Capital (Hope won by 9 at Capital).  Hope also quite a few places higher on Massey, I know that's not a factor for NCAA, just another data point.  Go figure.

Purely a guess but John Carroll picked up a win over ranked Baldwin Wallace, so their RvRRO's is probably better than Hope, which I think was 0-2 going into this ranking.

[bballfan13]

Regional rankings are out for this week.  Calvin stays at #2 and Hope drops to #5.  The rankings do not include games from this week.

Always scratch my head at the screwy NCAA rankings.  John Carroll jumps ahead of Hope with a worse record including much worse performance against common opponents: 1 pt win over Kzoo (Hope avg margin +11 in 2 games vs Kzoo), 3 point win over Adrian (Hope avg margin +18 in two games vs Adrian); loss by 9 at Capital (Hope won by 9 at Capital).  Hope also quite a few places higher on Massey, I know that's not a factor for NCAA, just another data point.  Go figure.

Purely a guess but John Carroll picked up a win over ranked Baldwin Wallace, so their RvRRO's is probably better than Hope, which I think was 0-2 going into this ranking.

Yes I think the committee valued the record versus regionally ranked opponents.  This wasn't available last week as no team was ranked yet. Hope is 1-2 and John Carroll is 4-1 against ranked opponents.

I think Hope is still very safe for a Pool C bid. I don't see how they would not make the tournament.

[Roundball999]

Regional rankings are out for this week.  Calvin stays at #2 and Hope drops to #5.  The rankings do not include games from this week.

Always scratch my head at the screwy NCAA rankings.  John Carroll jumps ahead of Hope with a worse record including much worse performance against common opponents: 1 pt win over Kzoo (Hope avg margin +11 in 2 games vs Kzoo), 3 point win over Adrian (Hope avg margin +18 in two games vs Adrian); loss by 9 at Capital (Hope won by 9 at Capital).  Hope also quite a few places higher on Massey, I know that's not a factor for NCAA, just another data point.  Go figure.

Purely a guess but John Carroll picked up a win over ranked Baldwin Wallace, so their RvRRO's is probably better than Hope, which I think was 0-2 going into this ranking.

Yes I think the committee valued the record versus regionally ranked opponents.  This wasn't available last week as no team was ranked yet. Hope is 1-2 and John Carroll is 4-1 against ranked opponents.

I think Hope is still very safe for a Pool C bid. I don't see how they would not make the tournament.

Agree.  I understand the NCAA system, I just happen to think it has some very deep flaws and could be much better.

[northb]

Regional rankings are out for this week.  Calvin stays at #2 and Hope drops to #5.  The rankings do not include games from this week.

Always scratch my head at the screwy NCAA rankings.  John Carroll jumps ahead of Hope with a worse record including much worse performance against common opponents: 1 pt win over Kzoo (Hope avg margin +11 in 2 games vs Kzoo), 3 point win over Adrian (Hope avg margin +18 in two games vs Adrian); loss by 9 at Capital (Hope won by 9 at Capital).  Hope also quite a few places higher on Massey, I know that's not a factor for NCAA, just another data point.  Go figure.

Purely a guess but John Carroll picked up a win over ranked Baldwin Wallace, so their RvRRO's is probably better than Hope, which I think was 0-2 going into this ranking.

Yes I think the committee valued the record versus regionally ranked opponents.  This wasn't available last week as no team was ranked yet. Hope is 1-2 and John Carroll is 4-1 against ranked opponents.

I think Hope is still very safe for a Pool C bid. I don't see how they would not make the tournament.

Agree.  I understand the NCAA system, I just happen to think it has some very deep flaws and could be much better.

How would you improve it?

[bballforever]

I think the rankings are right on after being at the Calvin/Hope game this week and watching Hope performance.  They looked far from a tourney team and probably will drop even lower now.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I think the rankings are right on after being at the Calvin/Hope game this week and watching Hope performance.  They looked far from a tourney team and probably will drop even lower now.

Spoken like a true Calvin fan.  No doubt the performance on Saturday was not tournament quality - but that was one game

[Dark Knight]

I think the rankings are right on after being at the Calvin/Hope game this week and watching Hope performance.  They looked far from a tourney team and probably will drop even lower now.

Spoken like a true Calvin fan.  No doubt the performance on Saturday was not tournament quality - but that was one game

Both teams were feeling the stress and intensity of a Hope-Calvin game for all the marbles. The game certainly had the intensity of a tournament game.

Calvin and Hope both started out with very high intensity and way too much adrenaline. Almost all the shots in the first few minutes were long. Six minutes into the game the score was 2-2, and half of those points were from free throws. Calvin missed 14 of their first 15 shots.

Calvin's shooting percentage recovered; after those first 15 shots (and 14 misses) Calvin shot 47%. Hope started out 0-7 and 4-20, but they didn't recover as well, hitting only 5 of 28 (18%) in the second half.

Sometimes in these extremely intense battles shooting percentages are low. I also wonder if it was a factor that Hope used a shorter bench, with starters averaging nearly 30 minutes.

[Roundball999]

I think the rankings are right on after being at the Calvin/Hope game this week and watching Hope performance.  They looked far from a tourney team and probably will drop even lower now.

I guess that means you thought Calvin was not a tourney team after the 1st game?

[northb]

I think the rankings are right on after being at the Calvin/Hope game this week and watching Hope performance.  They looked far from a tourney team and probably will drop even lower now.

I guess that means you thought Calvin was not a tourney team after the 1st game?

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