WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Roundball999]

Trine at Hope today.  With Hope win they will have essentially wrapped up the regular season crown and will host the MIAA playoff rounds.  A Trine win will even the season series and put each team with 1 loss in the league.  I think Hope will win easily today, they are a better rounded and deeper team than Trine right now.  For Trine to keep it close Brandi Dawson will have to put the team on her back offensively, and Haley Martin will need some help guarding the post, and someone else will have to step up and help out offensively, maybe Kayla Freeman who is getting more playing time recently. 

Well, you weren't right on the outcome but otherwise you called it right.  Dawson put the team on her back offensively (12-15 fg!!!) and Martin with some help shut down the post.  Trine's defense held Hope to 14 points and a miserable shooting % in the first half.  While the Dutch put on a spirited rally in the final five minutes behind frosh Kenedy Schoonveld (24 pts) it was just too much to overcome against the Trine defense.  Trine had 10 more rebounds, 10 more assists, and the Hope bench only had 9 points which is very unusual.  With those stats its a bit surprising the score was as close at the end as it was.  Congrats!

[TUAngola]

Good win for Trine's resume'.  Sounds like it was a strong 1st two quarters for Trine and then had to hold off a furious Hope comeback in the last 2 quarters.  As I mentioned, Dawson needed to come up big in this game, and she did.  Martin may have had her best overall game so far this year.  She's been battling thru injuries all year so was good to hear she had a strong game in the post.

So, the question is, if both Hope and Trine win out the rest of the way, what is the tiebreaker for who hosts the tournament?  But maybe home court won't be such a big deal.  For the Hope/Trine mens and womens basketball games against each other this year the road team has won all 4 times. 

[sac]

assuming both Trine and Hope win out, I think we'd get down to "f" on the tie-breaker chart  (this is a copy paste of the mens tie breakers which I was told is the same for women, so turn the 7 into an 8"

"In cases where two or more teams conclude MIAA play with identical league records, the ties would
be broken using the following criteria:

a.Head to Head
b.Combined record vs. the teams ahead of the tied teams in the standings.
c.Record against 1st place team, then 2nd place team, etc....all the way through the standings.
d.Total conference road wins
e.Individual road records against conference schools, starting with the 1st place team, then 2nd place
team, etc...all the way through the standings.
f.Record in second half of conference season (last 7 games).
g.In-Region win total.
h.Coin Flip.
In the case of a tie involving multiple teams, the same tie breaking criteria as above would be used
until one team can be placed in position. The remaining tied teams would then
use the above criteria
to establish the next position until no teams remain tied. In an unbreakable tie, the position will be
determined by a coin flip conducted by the Commissioner. (5/12)
3.Once teams have been put in positions 1-8, seeds will be established"

Trine would be 8-0 the 2nd half of the season, Hope 7-1

[bballforever]

Remember in 2011, there was a coin flip between Hope and Calvin AD's, I believe.  Hope called  it, but lost it.

Calvin hosted and won on the famous last minute shot!!

[sac]

Remember in 2011, there was a coin flip between Hope and Calvin AD's, I believe.  Hope called  it, but lost it.

Calvin hosted and won on the famous last minute shot!!

The tie-breaker was changed after that.  No one really wants a coin flip.  The tie-breaker above makes it nearly impossible to ever get to a coin flip.

[bballforever]

Calvin loved the coin flip!! 

[Jameswys]

Olivet and Trine are tied at halftime. I watched about 14 minutes of this game and I didn't think either team looked especially good (though I'm not sure I know the women's game well enough to make that judgement). I thought both teams seemed well matched in the first and I wouldn't have know there was a top ten team in the building unless I had seen the poll and the standings earlier today.

[sac]

assuming both Trine and Hope win out, I think we'd get down to "f" on the tie-breaker chart  (this is a copy paste of the mens tie breakers which I was told is the same for women, so turn the 7 into an 8"

"In cases where two or more teams conclude MIAA play with identical league records, the ties would
be broken using the following criteria:

a.Head to Head
b.Combined record vs. the teams ahead of the tied teams in the standings.
c.Record against 1st place team, then 2nd place team, etc....all the way through the standings.
d.Total conference road wins
e.Individual road records against conference schools, starting with the 1st place team, then 2nd place
team, etc...all the way through the standings.
f.Record in second half of conference season (last 7 games).
g.In-Region win total.
h.Coin Flip.
In the case of a tie involving multiple teams, the same tie breaking criteria as above would be used
until one team can be placed in position. The remaining tied teams would then
use the above criteria
to establish the next position until no teams remain tied. In an unbreakable tie, the position will be
determined by a coin flip conducted by the Commissioner. (5/12)
3.Once teams have been put in positions 1-8, seeds will be established"

Trine would be 8-0 the 2nd half of the season, Hope 7-1

I've been told the women do not have the same tie-breakers as the men.  Under our current scenario we would need a coin.

[bballforever]

Hope at Calvin tonight.  Maybe Calvin will come up with a win and we won't need a coin flip.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Women's first regional rankings of the season are out: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-first

[pointlem]

Boy, tonight's Hope v. Calvin game was a life after death experience for Hope fans, watching the play-by-play stats and seemingly seeing the game end:
00:08    Hope Steal by GEERS,MADISON    66 - 69    
00:01    Hope 30SEC TIMEOUT by Hope    66 - 69    
00:00    Hope Assist by GEERS,MADISON    66 - 69    
00:00    Hope BUCHANAN,FRANCESCA made layup    68 - 69
So . . . we put our phones away and went back to watching Hope v. Adrian men . . .

But then . . .
00:00    Hope TEAM TIMEOUT by Hope    68 - 69    
00:00    30SEC TIMEOUT by Calvin Calvin
00:00    Hope Foul by GEERS,MADISON    68 - 69    
00:00    RICHARDS,BECCA missed free throw Calvin
00:00    TEAM deadball rebound Calvin
00:00    RICHARDS,BECCA missed free throw Calvin
00:00    Hope VOSKUIL,OLIVIA defensive rebound    68 - 69    
00:00    Hope 30SEC TIMEOUT by Hope    68 - 69    
00:00    Hope BUCHANAN,FRANCESCA made layup    70 - 69    
00:00    Hope Assist by TOLBERT,ARIKA    70 - 69

[sac]

Game winner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45ZaiZuVzM

[Dutchfan]

The end of yesterday's Hope/Calvin game.

http://static.psbin.com/1/1/d98zic83o5e4u2/2-7-2018_Final_Seconds_Hope_VS_Calvin.mp3

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Or better yet... https://youtu.be/-_IBWoLwqTw

[sac]

literally the same video