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Dutchfan

Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.

pointlem

Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.  :D

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Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.

On the official NCAA mileage site it's 499 each way, so they're driving.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 07, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.

On the official NCAA mileage site it's 499 each way, so they're driving.

Let's Hope they are!!
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Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 07, 2018, 08:09:12 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 07, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.

On the official NCAA mileage site it's 499 each way, so they're driving.

Let's Hope they are!!
Agreed! :)
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sac

I've still never seen evidence the NCAA uses the pathway through Canada as its official mileage distance between New York schools and MIAA schools.

While its technically under 500 miles, its asking a lot for a college to put together all the necessary paper work for essentially 4 border crossings in a weeks time.  Its 580 miles going South along Lake Erie.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: sac on March 07, 2018, 04:23:50 PM
I've still never seen evidence the NCAA uses the pathway through Canada as its official mileage distance between New York schools and MIAA schools.

While its technically under 500 miles, its asking a lot for a college to put together all the necessary paper work for essentially 4 border crossings in a weeks time.  Its 580 miles going South along Lake Erie.

They don't. We saw that last year when initially Geneseo was going to get to host, but then the NCAA realized the mileage was through Canada and changed the decision.

But that isn't part of this discussion, is it? I may have missed something. LOL
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sac

Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.  :D
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 07, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.

On the official NCAA mileage site it's 499 each way, so they're driving.

That is literally exactly what they're talking about  ???

Dutchfan

Quote from: sac on March 07, 2018, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.  :D
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 07, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: pointlem on March 06, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 06, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Looks like the NCAA has lucked out. If Hope does indeed make it to the final four the driving distance, according to map quest, from Hope College to the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, MN is 499 miles.
Dutchfan . . . depends where they start?  Google Maps has it 503 miles from DeVos Fieldhouse.

On the official NCAA mileage site it's 499 each way, so they're driving.

That is literally exactly what they're talking about  ???
I think you are mistaken. The final four is in Rochester MINNESOTA, not New York.

sac

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Well then yes, I am mistaken.

It's 1860 miles along the southern route of Lake Erie to Rochester, MN.   Still have to go through Canada though.


.....carry on.

Dutchfan

Quote from: sac on March 07, 2018, 11:24:51 PM
Well then yes, I am mistaken.

It's 1860 miles along the southern route of Lake Erie to Rochester, MN.   Still have to go through Canada though.


.....carry on.
Umm, Lake Erie is east of Hope College. Rochester, Minnesota is west of Hope College.

From Hope College's Administrative address to the address of the Mayo Civic center is 499 miles.

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Of course, they also have to win two games this weekend for the privilege.
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sac

Quote from: Dutchfan on March 08, 2018, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: sac on March 07, 2018, 11:24:51 PM
Well then yes, I am mistaken.

It's 1860 miles along the southern route of Lake Erie to Rochester, MN.   Still have to go through Canada though.


.....carry on.
Umm, Lake Erie is east of Hope College. Rochester, Minnesota is west of Hope College.

From Hope College's Administrative address to the address of the Mayo Civic center is 499 miles.

It was a joke at my expense, I would never go that way.......unless I wanted to.

sac

Hope Sectional

Offensive efficiency or Points per possession

Thomas More               1.22
Gustavus-Adolphus     1.04     
Hope                           1.02
Christopher Newport   .95

Sizeable advantage in scoring pace for Thomas More


Defensive efficiency
Thomas More                .70
Gustavus-Adolphus       .79     
Hope                             .71
Christopher Newport    .68

On a scale of 1 to 10 these are probably all 9's or 10's on the defensive side of things.


Pace or possessions per game
Thomas More                71.1
Gustavus-Adolphus       69.47   
Hope                             71.98
Christopher Newport    81.11

Christopher Newport is a bit more up tempo here than the other 3.  Unfortunately I have no context to know what constitutes fast or slow in the women's game.


Four Factors

eFG%                   Off             Def
Thomas More                 56.1             37.1
Gustavus-Adolphus        49.1             45.6     
Hope                              47.4             36.5
Christopher Newport     42.1             41.8

Thomas More is the offensive standout here by a lot.

Rebounding         %Off rebounds   Opp%Off rebounds

Thomas More                        45.7                           29.6
Gustavus-Adolphus               39.1                           32.0     
Hope                                     40.2                           23.3
Christopher Newport            46.5                           30.2

All 4 appear to be strong offensive rebounding teams and at least create a wide margin in rebounding by being good at the other end.  Hope seems pretty strong of the defensive boards.  All 3 games might swing with whoever wins these battles.


FT Rate
Thomas More                27.8            24.4
Gustavus-Adolphus       28.4           30.2
Hope                             34.3            23.1
Christopher Newport    33.3            37.6

Hope stands out as both a team that gets to the line a lot and keeps the other team off the line.  Other than that I don't have a lot of context here.


Turnover Rate
                                 TO rate          Opp TO rate             Margin
Thomas More                16.7                 28.2                    11.46
Gustavus-Adolphus       20.8                 31.8                    11.06
Hope                             20.2                 26.5                       6.3
Christopher Newport    22.9                 37.6                     14.67


These numbers suggest a lot of pressure defense and 4 teams that really thrive on creating turnovers.  CNU's number looks a bit insane to me, that's either great full court pressure D or a really bad level of play in their general area of the country.  At this level of the tournament I would doubt you'll see high turnover rates like these.  The team that relies less on turnovers might thrive here, that might be Hope or the team that controls the ball best, Thomas More.


Besides Thomas More looking like a possible team of cyborgs sent to inhabit your planet and win all the trophies this looks like a pretty strong Sectional  with 3 sort of close to even teams and a Gustavus Adolphus team that looks like it will have a difficult time with Thomas More.   I think Thomas More looks like the favorite, but never discount the home court factor (Hope), or the revenge factor for last years defeats (Hope and Thomas More)





sac

This is Hope's 10th Sectional appearance (1 more in what was considered Regionals in 1990).  Third time hosting the Sweet 16 round (1990, 2002), those games were played at the Dow Center.

I am a little bit dumbfounded that this is the Hope women's first time hosting a Sectional round in DeVos Fieldhouse.