WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[scottiedawg]

The regional rankings from last week "count" as well. So no teams can lose RROs at this point. They can only gain them if a team moves into the regional rankings.

My point is that DePauw's loss hurts their WP, and that Hope gets 2 additional RRO and Trine gets 1. As close as they all are that will mean something

I sure hope you're right! ALLLLLL logic would point to you being right.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

The regional rankings from last week "count" as well. So no teams can lose RROs at this point. They can only gain them if a team moves into the regional rankings.

My point is that DePauw's loss hurts their WP, and that Hope gets 2 additional RRO and Trine gets 1. As close as they all are that will mean something

I sure hope you're right! ALLLLLL logic would point to you being right.

The other thing that I think should help both Hope and Trine is WP. As you have said before, it appears the committee places more importance on that than anything. DePauw going 0-1 while Hope and Trine are either 2-0 or 1-1.

[scottiedawg]

Oh agreed but if Trine loses tomorrow their WP is basically even (DePauw 0.88000 , Trine 0.88461). SOS is gonna be razor close. Both would be 5-2 v RRO.

If DePauw adds 2 wins v RRO if OWU sneaks into the final Reg 7 rankings, i think DePauw sticks at #2.

Even if they don't, I feel like whatever prompted the committee to rank DePauw ahead of Trine last week, would still be in play (I have no idea what it might be??).

Unfortunately for Trine, beating Albion (non RRO) and (if) losing to Hope (RRO loss)--does very little for their resume.

[Erm Schmigget]

The regional rankings from last week "count" as well. So no teams can lose RROs at this point. They can only gain them if a team moves into the regional rankings.

Thanks for clarifying that.  I thought I read in another comment earlier that someone else had lost an RRO due to a team falling off the list.

[scottiedawg]

I might've misled you when I posted "DePauw losing an RRO win seems like the most significant thing to happen to either team this week."

That was referring to last week's game, so before the Second Regional Rankings were published.

[HOPEful]

(we all see how ridiculous RROs are right? teams moving from one above the line down, or one below the line up, have massive consequences, on teams whose results did not change).

THIS! Everyone needs to be shouting this from the mountaintops! RROs are a ridiculously dumb and arbitrary way to assess teams.  Lets draw an arbitrary line in the sand and every team above this line counts extra. Never mind that Hope beat Calvin a combined 240 to 136 in their 3 meetings and DePauw barely got by them. It's just 3 wins over an RRO vs 1. And that 1 RRO counts the same for DePauw as Hope's win against Trine. Makes no sense.

[sac]

I assume everyone saw DePauw lost their NCAC semi-final game to Wittenberg, a team they previously had beaten by 26 but only had to play once this year.

[TUAngola]

For those Hope fans coming down to Angola this evening I would recommend that you purchase your tickets thru the MIAA ticket portal.  Even though there is an extra service fee to purchase tickets this way, the process is so much faster than paying cash at the door in that you still need to give them your phone number to send a link to your phone to scan you in.  I've tried both ways and purchasing online is faster, gets you in the door quickly as there are separate ticket lines for those paying with cash and for those who have the tickets uploaded to their phone.

Also, parking may be tricky as the MIAA indoor track & field championships are being held at the ARC next door to the MTI Center today.  I think the last event is over around 6:30 but it will take time for parking spots to open up.  It might be ok but just want to warn those coming to give yourself some extra time just in case you have to look around for parking.

[pointlem]

For those Hope fans coming down to Angola this evening I would recommend that you purchase your tickets thru the MIAA ticket portal.  Even though there is an extra service fee to purchase tickets this way, the process is so much faster than paying cash at the door in that you still need to give them your phone number to send a link to your phone to scan you in.  I've tried both ways and purchasing online is faster, gets you in the door quickly as there are separate ticket lines for those paying with cash and for those who have the tickets uploaded to their phone.

Also, parking may be tricky as the MIAA indoor track & field championships are being held at the ARC next door to the MTI Center today.  I think the last event is over around 6:30 but it will take time for parking spots to open up.  It might be ok but just want to warn those coming to give yourself some extra time just in case you have to look around for parking.

TUAngola . . . or perhaps save the travel and just trust Massey matchup? (How I wish.)
https://masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=379388&oid0=3329&h=-1&s1=379388&oid1=8020 . . . although Massey hasn't computed the season-ending injury loss of Hope's 2nd leading rebounder and 3rd leading scorer, Samantha Feenstra, which perhaps makes it a toss-up.

Regardless, we'll look forward to one of your excellent post-game reports.

[Roundball999]

There's every indication of another hard fought, close game coming up tonight in Angola.  Hope won by 9 there earlier in the year; Trine won by 8 in Holland.  Seems to me Trine's been a little more consistent in the 2nd half of the season but not sure that means much.  You could parse all the stats from the two games this year but at the risk of oversimplifying, for these evenly matched teams it seems it came down to whoever put the ball in the hole at a better % won the game.  Sometimes its an easy game

[scottiedawg]

Wagner has committed 11 turnovers in 39 minutes against Hope this year.

[scottiedawg]

Muller's been tremendous tonight. Forget the missed FTs, she's kept Hope in this.

[NW Hope Fan]

Go Hope!!!!

[scottiedawg]

I hope:

* Hope and Trine end up 1, 2 in the final Region 7 rankings
* Both host opening weekend and potentially longer
* Opposite sides of the bracket

I sure hope the committee also looks at what the specific RRO losses were, when "seeding" the very top teams. Cause losing to Hope and Trine is less bad than losing to Rochester, Bates, Eau Claire, UCSC, Ithaca, Stevens, Messiah, Piedment (Wittenberg!!), ETBU, Texas-Dallas.

[NW Hope Fan]

* OPPOSITE SIDES!!!!