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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


After the craziness of the weekend, the current longest active winning streak in d3 women's basketball now belongs to:  Hope, with 14.
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pointlem

Quote from: pointlem on February 28, 2022, 05:04:41 PM
Knocking on wood . . . it's interesting that this season's 4th Hope v. Trine game ( ;D) is scheduled for Thursday, March 17th (i.e., the tournament semi on Thursday, two days before the Saturday championship) . . . meaning another day for student-athletes to be away from classes, and surely fewer fans willing to commit the extra day of travel with a dead day in between. Not a wise NCAA decision?
So great for Hope and Trine both to deservedly make it to the Final Four, as the Massey #1 and #2 teams. I'm still wondering what the thinking was behind the scheduling, with the time away it adds for DIII student athletes and the impediment to fans coming to Pitt for a Thursday game. Perhaps both school's AD's could plan a possible day-trip charter bus for fans, should their team make it to the Saturday?

ronk

Quote from: pointlem on March 13, 2022, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: pointlem on February 28, 2022, 05:04:41 PM
Knocking on wood . . . it's interesting that this season's 4th Hope v. Trine game ( ;D) is scheduled for Thursday, March 17th (i.e., the tournament semi on Thursday, two days before the Saturday championship) . . . meaning another day for student-athletes to be away from classes, and surely fewer fans willing to commit the extra day of travel with a dead day in between. Not a wise NCAA decision?
So great for Hope and Trine both to deservedly make it to the Final Four, as the Massey #1 and #2 teams. I'm still wondering what the thinking was behind the scheduling, with the time away it adds for DIII student athletes and the impediment to fans coming to Pitt for a Thursday game. Perhaps both school's AD's could plan a possible day-trip charter bus for fans, should their team make it to the Saturday?

The final has been scheduled to be televised @ 2 pm Saturday; working with that, it was felt that it was too soon after Friday nite semis; so, a better choice would be to have the semis on Thursday instead.

Roundball999

Unfortunate decision in my opinion, not very fan-friendly for those core supporters who actually want to travel to see the game in person.   Basing the schedule on when it can be televised is a bit of an anachronism these days with wide spread streaming.  Just one man's opinion, but Friday/Saturday evening schedules like all the tournament games that lead to this point would make more sense, be better for the student athlete and better for the fans that need to travel, take time from work, and so forth.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Roundball999 on March 13, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
Unfortunate decision in my opinion, not very fan-friendly for those core supporters who actually want to travel to see the game in person.   Basing the schedule on when it can be televised is a bit of an anachronism these days with wide spread streaming.  Just one man's opinion, but Friday/Saturday evening schedules like all the tournament games that lead to this point would make more sense, be better for the student athlete and better for the fans that need to travel, take time from work, and so forth.

The NCAA is paying CBS for the airtime, so there's parity with the men's game. Evidently this was the only time available.
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Roundball999

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2022, 11:41:21 AM
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 13, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
Unfortunate decision in my opinion, not very fan-friendly for those core supporters who actually want to travel to see the game in person.   Basing the schedule on when it can be televised is a bit of an anachronism these days with wide spread streaming.  Just one man's opinion, but Friday/Saturday evening schedules like all the tournament games that lead to this point would make more sense, be better for the student athlete and better for the fans that need to travel, take time from work, and so forth.

The NCAA is paying CBS for the airtime, so there's parity with the men's game. Evidently this was the only time available.

Not surprised, I assumed it was at least partially about the NCAA and money.  Again just my opinion, but televising especially when you have to pay for it and it creates a bad schedule is completely out of date.  It's not as if we in D3 are accustomed to seeing our games on broadcast television.

Dutchfan

Thursday's schedule is out.

5:00 PM
Amherst
UW-Whitewater

7:30 PM
Hope
Trine

pointlem

Quote from: ronk on March 13, 2022, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: pointlem on March 13, 2022, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: pointlem on February 28, 2022, 05:04:41 PM
Knocking on wood . . . it's interesting that this season's 4th Hope v. Trine game ( ;D) is scheduled for Thursday, March 17th (i.e., the tournament semi on Thursday, two days before the Saturday championship) . . . meaning another day for student-athletes to be away from classes, and surely fewer fans willing to commit the extra day of travel with a dead day in between. Not a wise NCAA decision?
So great for Hope and Trine both to deservedly make it to the Final Four, as the Massey #1 and #2 teams. I'm still wondering what the thinking was behind the scheduling, with the time away it adds for DIII student athletes and the impediment to fans coming to Pitt for a Thursday game. Perhaps both school's AD's could plan a possible day-trip charter bus for fans, should their team make it to the Saturday?

The final has been scheduled to be televised @ 2 pm Saturday; working with that, it was felt that it was too soon after Friday nite semis; so, a better choice would be to have the semis on Thursday instead.
Thanks, Ronk. The CBS Sports Network broadcast is nice. But the rationale for a less student- and fan-friendly no-Friday policy seems questionable . . . said with Iowa today playing Big Ten tournament BB for the fourth consecutive day.

TUAngola

Got home this afternoon.  Found the Transylvania stream of last night's game and watched the replay on my laptop to see the game from a broadcaster's perspective. He was a very good play by play guy, probably one of the best I've heard at the D3 level.  He had a couple halftime guests to comment on the first 2 quarters of play, one was a former coach at Transylvania who has the court named after him, and the other a writer from d3hoops.com.  They both thought fatigue was a big reason for Transy's shots not falling after the 1st quarter, as they were physically beat up by UMHB the night before, and just don't have the depth of Trine to get their gals a breather.  Another key was having their center get in foul trouble as she is one of their better 3-point shooters after Kellione and Stacey. 

I also watched the 1st quarter of the Hope-NYU game.  NYU might be a pre-season favorite next year as they are very young, all underclassmen in their rotation.  I think Hope is really peaking at the right time.  They are shooting better, especially from the free throw line.  In looking at the stats from the NYU game that was difference in the game as NYU only got to the line twice and Hope was in the 20's.  The Trine loss has certainly sharpened their resolve and I think they are played their best basketball of the year.

Roundball999

TUAngola, perhaps Transylvania was fatigued but 8 total points in the middle two quarters also has to be a Tribute to the Thunder D.  Really wish Trine and Hope were on the opposite sides of the bracket.  MIAA is assured of a team in the championship game as it stands, but the way both teams are playing I think it would have been good odds that at least one made it anyway.

Coach Mo said after the NYU game that while they don't do formal FT drills in practice, recently the players have had the honor assignment to get up at least 100 per day.  It does appear to be paying off.

Flying Dutch Fan

#5800
Taking a quick look at the teams in the Final Four from a couple of different perspectives

Team Stats & last Regional Ranking:


Team     Avg Pos/G   Off Eff (PPP)   Def Eff (PPP)      SOS      vRRO 
Amherst     63.3   0.971   0.776      0.616      7-2
UWW     71.8   0.996   0.775      0.606      6-4
Trine     66.3   1.089   0.711      0.550      5-3
Hope     74.6   1.159   0.649      0.540      6-1

NCAA Tournament History (through 3/12/22):


Team     Win   Loss   %      Final Fours      Championships 
Amherst     51   12   0.810          3
UWW     31   19   0.620          0
Trine     10   3   0.769          0
Hope     45   18   0.714          2

How Massey sees the semi-finals:


Team     Overall Rank   Off Rank   Def Rank      Predicted Score      Win Probability 
Amherst     13   114       53      23%
UWW     3   7   10      61      77%
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Trine     2   20       60      25%
Hope     1   1       68      75%
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Roundball999

Congrats to Hope's Kenedy Schoonveld for being named a Jostens Trophy finalist from among a record number of nominees.

https://www.odaconline.com/jostens/index

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: Roundball999 on March 14, 2022, 12:03:00 PM
Was trying to figure how Massey would favor UWW over Amherst when Amherst has a lower Massey rank - then realized you've got their rank swapped above!  Thanks as always for the analysis.

Thanks for catching that - I fixed it
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jspiii

Driving up from Florida to Pittsburgh on the way home to Michigan. Got a room 2 miles from the arena for Thursday night. If Hope wins, might be a problem getting a room for Friday night. Just realized Division I Men have a sectional on Friday less than 1/2 mile from the women's arena.