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Flying Dutch Fan

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Quote from: RogK on March 25, 2022, 03:37:59 PM
A few days ago, the current Thomas More team won the NAIA :
https://www.thomasmoresaints.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/boxscores/20220322_to00.xml?view=boxscore
Several Dutch names on the Dordt team, which scored more than half of its points in the 4th quarter.
Doordt is a sister school of Calvin.  Northwestern (IA) is a sister school of Hope and is their rival (it's like Hope/Calvin on a slightly different level).  Both are NAIA with the schools 12 miles apart in NW Iowa - a place with a lot of Dutch heritage

As a NW Alum I would be remiss to not end with this....

Friends don't let friends go to Doordt  ;D
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Someone needs to direct me to a summary of the political and theological history behind this Hope/Calvin thing. I feel like I'm embarrassingly uninformed about the details.
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Flying Dutch Fan

2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 28, 2022, 08:47:54 AM
Try this:

https://www.d3hoops.com/columns/features/2018-19/what-makes-the-rivalry

I mean, like, a history of the denominational squabble. I'm looking to go very deep. I figure there's got to be some place where this is covered, so I don't have to do my own research.
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HOPEful

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 28, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 28, 2022, 08:47:54 AM
Try this:

https://www.d3hoops.com/columns/features/2018-19/what-makes-the-rivalry

I mean, like, a history of the denominational squabble. I'm looking to go very deep. I figure there's got to be some place where this is covered, so I don't have to do my own research.

https://schismof1857.wordpress.com/ is a good place to start if you have access to github (most libraries will)

Otherwse, googling the Schism of 1857 and Pillar Church in Holland will get you started on the right path...
Let's go Dutchmen!

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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: HOPEful on March 28, 2022, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 28, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 28, 2022, 08:47:54 AM
Try this:

https://www.d3hoops.com/columns/features/2018-19/what-makes-the-rivalry

I mean, like, a history of the denominational squabble. I'm looking to go very deep. I figure there's got to be some place where this is covered, so I don't have to do my own research.

https://schismof1857.wordpress.com/ is a good place to start if you have access to github (most libraries will)

Otherwse, googling the Schism of 1857 and Pillar Church in Holland will get you started on the right path...

Yeah, I need to keep digging, but thanks for the direction. I went to a PCA sponsored high school, so there was always lots of Reformed church rivalry in the air, but as the Wesleyan kid, they all thought I was a heretic, anyway, so I didn't pay much attention.  I did attend a lot of Dordt, Covenant, and Calvin recruiting pitches, though, since you got out of class to attend and they often had snacks.
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RogK

I thought that schism was caused by a guy who disrupted a Sunday morning service by streaking through the church. He was caught by the organ.

gordonmann

I'm a little embarrassed to admit that made me laugh. :)

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: RogK on March 28, 2022, 01:24:19 PM
I thought that schism was caused by a guy who disrupted a Sunday morning service by streaking through the church. He was caught by the organ.

The schism starts just below the organ, right?
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RogK

the only other church joke that comes to mind :
he who fart in church sit in own pew

WLCALUM83

And there was that classic country mid 1970's song by the Kendalls about an extra-marital affair entitled "Heaven's Just a Sin Away."
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TUAngola

Recent Trine grad Kelsey Taylor is going to graduate school this fall at Butler University in Indianapolis and will be playing a 5th year of basketball for the Bulldogs.  Butler is getting a solid defender and communicator.  Kelsey won't contribute much on the offensive end in D1 but she'll be able to sub in and bang a little and give some hard fouls  ;D.  Good luck Kelsey!

HOPEful

Quote from: TUAngola on May 19, 2022, 05:48:02 PM
Recent Trine grad Kelsey Taylor is going to graduate school this fall at Butler University in Indianapolis and will be playing a 5th year of basketball for the Bulldogs.  Butler is getting a solid defender and communicator.  Kelsey won't contribute much on the offensive end in D1 but she'll be able to sub in and bang a little and give some hard fouls  ;D.  Good luck Kelsey!

That's awesome!

Going into this last season, I thought the loss of Shay was going to set Trine back a lot more than most were predicting. I thought Hope was easily going to use their size to outstretch Trine. I did not expect Kelsy to step up in the manner and to the degree that she did. The growth in her post play from her junior year into her senior year was noticeable and she was a big reason why Trine's defense was able to be as suffocating as it was all season. What a fun and great opportunity to get one more season of playing a game she loves while transitioning to her next chapter!
Let's go Dutchmen!

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TUAngola

I would have loved to see both Kenedy Schoonveld and Olivia Voskuil get a D1 opportunity as I think they could have helped out quite a few mid major D1 teams.  Last year would have been perfect for them to 'test the waters' but I know how strong the pull was to come back to Hope to get that championship that Covid took away the last 2 years.

HOPEful

Quote from: TUAngola on May 20, 2022, 05:15:34 PM
I would have loved to see both Kenedy Schoonveld and Olivia Voskuil get a D1 opportunity as I think they could have helped out quite a few mid major D1 teams.  Last year would have been perfect for them to 'test the waters' but I know how strong the pull was to come back to Hope to get that championship that Covid took away the last 2 years.

The pull was very very strong. But not just Hope the institution, but the coaching staff and each other. From what I gather, between Olivia, Sydney, and Kennedy, two of the three had actually decided to move on and not return. Through conversations and figuring out some of the logistics that would allow them to both play basketball at Hope one more season while still starting the transition to the next phase in life, all three realized it was "doable"... Olivia and Sydney actually lived together in an apartment downtown Holland. Kenedy and Olivia have been playing basketball together since freshman year in high school. No one could ever say for certain, but in the hypothetical situation where one of the three didn't come back, I doubt the other two would have.

Lastly, I would argue that coming of the bench at a smaller D1 school would have been a far less rewarding year than the last one at Hope. The average attendance at Hope games is right on par with that at a MAC school. And based off the fact that they were ready to move on, I don't think they were ready to choose a grad program based on basketball. And my guess is U of M never inquired about Olivia playing her last season in Ann Arbor.
Let's go Dutchmen!

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