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Flying Dutch Fan

Per Twitter, Hope lands what looks to be an excellent recruit for next season:

Peyton Holcomb (Benicia CA)a 5-9 four year Varsity player, who 1/2 way through her senior season has already amassed some awesome stats (in 69 games):  1086 pts, 123 made 3s, 81% FT. 723 reb, 221 ast, 172 stls, 1.64 a/TO
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

sac

Albion 69 Hope 53  F

Albion was simply terrific today.  Well earned and very deserving W.

sac

#5987
https://team1sports.com/gobrits/?B=449171
At the 1:55:40 mark Albion gets tied up in a jump ball and is awarded the possession.  Note there's only :20 seconds left in the quarter, this should be an easy sequence to remember.

Quarter ends,  I notice the scorers table arguing with the official about possession to start the fourth quarter,  the camera angle doesn't pick up enough of the interchange which is a shame.  The tall black haired official holds her ground and insists its Hope's ball to start the 4Q.  But the woman who I would recognize as the head official, someone I also recognize as being one of the state's top women's/girls basketball officials comes in and has the arrow pointed to Albion.

So Albion is awarded possession to start the 4th Q

This was really strange and probably incorrect.


Does women's basketball not do possession as the game rolls or is possession awarded by quarter?



Also, Albion replaced its scoreboards this year.  But this is about the 5th year in a row I've left there with an in game scoring error.  Everyone left that game thinking the final was 70-53, I see now its listed as 69-53.   You gotta get the score right guys, there are protocols to follow at the table with the scoreboard/scorebook etc.  That just shouldn't happen as frequently as it has.


TUAngola

I feel the difference in Albion being a good team and Albion being a "top 20ish" type team is the play of Riley Davis.  I've been watching her for a few years now and there are games where she sort of disappears, but then there are other games, like yesterday against Hope, where she is Albion's best player.  Athletically she has the tools.  I think she needs to look for her shot more as she can score.  Also my vote for most improved player in the MIAA is most certainly Daniah Beavers, she played great yesterday.  For Hope if was a very poor shooting performance again, and their bench game them nothing, which is very "unHopelike".  Albion comes to Angola on Wednesday and can take over first in the MIAA with a win against the Thunder.  Without Underhill this one will be tough as we don't have the size to match up with Beavers other than Abby Sanner.  It will be interesting to see if Coach Rang lets Abby get her first start or if we'll continue to play 'small' with Katie Sloneker starting out in the post with Abby coming off the bench.

TUAngola

Quote from: TUAngola on January 15, 2023, 07:35:38 AM
I feel the difference in Albion being a good team and Albion being a "top 20ish" type team is the play of Riley Davis.  I've been watching her for a few years now and there are games where she sort of disappears, but then there are other games, like yesterday against Hope, where she is Albion's best player.  Athletically she has the tools.  I think she needs to look for her shot more as she can score.  Also my vote for most improved player in the MIAA is most certainly Daniah Beavers, she played great yesterday.  For Hope if was a very poor shooting performance again, and their bench game them nothing, which is very "unHopelike".  Albion comes to Angola on Wednesday and can take over first in the MIAA with a win against the Thunder.  Without Underhill this one will be tough as we don't have the size to match up with Beavers other than Abby Sanner.  It will be interesting to see if Coach Rang lets Abby get her first start or if we'll continue to play 'small' with Katie Sloneker starting out in the post with Abby coming off the bench.

Last night the Trine WBB with just a phenomenal defensive performance against Albion.  I think this year's team might be a little better defensively than last year's team (Massey ratings has them as #1 defense).  We started off with Katie Sloneker defending Daniah Beavers in the post, 5'10 vs 6'3.  Katie did a great job, she is more physical than what you think.  Beavers finished with 11 pts but we did a good job with Katie and also freshman Abby Sanner denying post entry passes.  Another key was Alyssa Argyle's defense on Riley Davis, again we played Riley with a smaller defender, but Alyssa is super quick for a small forward and Davis was frustrated all game.  Offensively it was Sidney Wagner carrying us in the first half with 15 of her 19 points before halftime, and then Makayla Ardis carrying us in the second half with 17 of her 18 points coming after halftime, she was 'feeling it' in the 4th quarter.  Obviously one of our better all around games this year.  We came out and stifled Albion from the get go and they never recovered.

The gals are off Saturday so they get a week to prepare for Hope next Wednesday.  This is our girls 'rivalry' game as it's always a war when we meet up.  Hope will no doubt be gunning for revenge after the loss in December, and they always play very well at MTI.  It's been several years since we've beaten them in Angola, it might have been Brandi Dawson's senior year the last time Trine got a 'W' at home against the Dutch.

Dutchfan

Does anyone know why Sydney Vis sat out for Hope today against Albion?

Flying Dutch Fan

Should be a great game tonight @ Trine - a dire need for Hope to win this to be in the race for the conference. 

Massey ranks Hope #2 and Trine #11 overall.  For Offense Hope is #2 & Trine #41.  For Defense Trine is #1 & Hope #25.  Massey predicts a final score of Hope 67 Trine 61

The history between these two teams has been really been some amazing basketball - especially in more recent seasons.  Since Trine joined the MIAA for the '04-05 season, The records look like this:

Hope - Trine
39 - 8 Overall
21 - 5 @ Hope
17 - 3 @ Trine
  1 - 0 @ Neutral site (Final Four last year)

Pretty dominant by Hope, as they were 27-1 versus Trine through the first 12 seasons.  But that has certainly changed in the last 6+ seasons, that is the '16-17 season - today

Hope - Trine
12 - 7 Overall
  5 - 5 @ Hope
  6 - 2 @ Trine
  1 - 0 @ Neutral

2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

TUAngola

Terrific game by Hope tonight.  Everything was on point; shooting, rebounding, ball movement, going after 50/50 balls...they just wanted it more.  Hope had Trine's defense running in circles with their excellent ball movement and hit the wide open 3's, especially in the first half.  Without Underhill Hope had size on us at every position.  And our other big Sanner was battling illness but still tried to make a go of it.  Trine did make a run in the 3rd quarter to get it to within 6, but Hope built the lead back up to 18 by the end of the quarter.  Mikayla Ardis was fantastic tonight, she was the only reason it wasn't a bigger win for the Dutch.  Wagner struggled the first half but had a better second, but we didn't get much production out of anyone else.  If you're not hitting shots against Hope it's going to be a long night because they don't miss.     

scottiedawg

Morehouse and Feenstra hitting 3s was a big deal. Relatively they are not the best Hope 3 pt shooters, and teams had been playing them softer, almost daring them to shoot it, while negating the dribble drive. Dam was opened in a hurry when they both connected early.

Flying Dutch Fan

#5994
Quote from: scottiedawg on January 26, 2023, 04:07:46 PM
Morehouse and Feenstra hitting 3s was a big deal. Relatively they are not the best Hope 3 pt shooters, and teams had been playing them softer, almost daring them to shoot it, while negating the dribble drive. Dam was opened in a hurry when they both connected early.

Yeah, big time on the relatively!  Hope as a team is leading the nation in 3pt% .386, as well as total FG% .489.  Feenstra (.326) and Morehouse (.333) are the two "worst" 3pt shooters in the starting 5, with McKinney (.381), Majerus (.429), and Baguley (.576)!  There are many teams that would love to have a single player with a .326/.333 percentage.  Daring anyone on Hope to shoot a 3 seems like a risky business

Hope has 11 players who have attemped more than one 3pt per game this season.  Of those 11 players, the lowest # of attemps in 19 games is 23.  Of those 11 players, the lowest 3pt % is .276.  The next lowest percentage is Feenstra (.326).
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

"Sports are kind of like passion and that's temporary in many cases, but academics - that's like true love and that's enduring." 
John Wooden

"Blame FDF.  That's the default.  Always blame FDF."
goodknight

NW Hope Fan

Nice week for Hope with a 26 point turn around against Trine, and a 45 point turn around against Albion.
they keep playing like this and will have another deep tournament run. #GoHope
"We are told that Christ was killed for us, that His death has washed out our sins, and that by dying He disabled death itself. ... That is Christianity. That is what has to be believed."

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

scottiedawg

#5996
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on January 26, 2023, 04:37:22 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on January 26, 2023, 04:07:46 PM
Morehouse and Feenstra hitting 3s was a big deal. Relatively they are not the best Hope 3 pt shooters, and teams had been playing them softer, almost daring them to shoot it, while negating the dribble drive. Dam was opened in a hurry when they both connected early.

Yeah, big time on the relatively!  Hope as a team is leading the nation in 3pt% .386, as well as total FG% .489.  Feenstra (.326) and Morehouse (.333) are the two "worst" 3pt shooters in the starting 5, with McKinney (.381), Majerus (.429), and Baguley (.576)!  There are many teams that would love to have a single player with a .326/.333 percentage.  Daring anyone on Hope to shoot a 3 seems like a risky business

Hope has 11 players who have attemped more than one 3pt per game this season.  Of those 11 players, the lowest # of attemps in 19 games is 23.  Of those 11 players, the lowest 3pt % is .276.  The next lowest percentage is Feenstra (.326).

I think you hit the appropriate emphasis FDF  ;D   I did choose my words carefully.

Baguley's offensive efficiency is so impressive. Her sharp shooting is making Majerus' look pedestrian by comparison!!

Add in Karlblom(!!!!), Garner, and Kaiser and there's no rest for opponents.

scottiedawg

I'm getting a similar feeling to last season (not about a title, just about a turnaround) when the team went through a woeful FT shooting stretch, then it all turned around (I think Coach said in an interview that was a point of emphasis during practice).

This squad just seemed a little imprecise, a little off, a little stagnant, during the stretch where they took 2 losses and even in surrounding games where they were still able to overwhelm overmatched opponents.  All of that feeling seems to have evaporated (likely due to a bunch of hard work, mixed with some randomness and a tad better officiating ;-) ) and they currently look awesome.

They even look better than that early season stretch where they dispatched IWU, WiscLuth, Eau Claire, Calvin, Wittenberg.

sac

#5998
I'll say what I said 2 weeks ago.

Hope played a wonderful game of basketball Saturday.


3 clear differences
1.  Hope's ball movement and spacing were much better yesterday
2.  Albion's overall energy level was lower, esp evaporated after 1Q
3.  Hope contained Beavers, Davis and Reed particularly Davis who was excellent at Albion.

Roundball999

Just noticed that Hope is leading the nation in team FG % and also in team 3pt %.  Quite impressive!  I must admit it makes me a little nervous not to see the Dutch among the team defensive leaders as has been the case in recent years, but I guess at the end of the day the team that scores the most wins.