WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[scottiedawg]

We're waiting quite a bit for hosts, but I expect Hope to be at UW-Whitewater.

Only thing I can think of (RE: Reason for delay) is the WBB Committee is trying to get an extra flight approved so the host can be Transylvania.

Just have Hope host and you get zero flights 😀😀

ALSO zero flights to Whitewater! (unfortunately for Hope and me).

[Dutchfan]

Hope will be at UW-Whitewater.

Hope was eligible to host, being 495 miles from UW-Stout.

[TUAngola]

Trine loses second round game to #18 UW-Oshkosh 74-48.  Just ran into a buzz saw last night as the Titans shot 55.6% from the floor including an atonishing 12-19 from three for 63.2%.  Oh yeah throw in a perfect 12-12 from the line.  Just to be able to win the MIAA tournament and get to the dance is a huge accomplishment for this young team.  Beating Gustavus in the first round shows you how far they have come.  We lose just one Senior in Chelsi Giesige who battled with injuries for most of her 4 years at Trine.  The future looks bright for the Thunder.     

[scottiedawg]

We lose just one Senior in Chelsi Giesige who battled with injuries for most of her 4 years at Trine.  The future looks bright for the Thunder.     

Points scored by players not listed as SR or GR:
Hope - 92.64%
Trine - 98.62%
Calvin - 100.00%
Albion - 53.54%


MIAA will be a war, and Region 7 as a whole


Carnegie Mellon - 96.70%
Chatham - 96.01%
Denison - 95.96%
DePauw - 95.73%
Washington & Jefferson - 87.24%
Penn State Behrend - 86.12%
Capital - 84.37%
Baldwin Wallace - 81.29%
Wittenberg - 75.24%
Ohio Northern - 70.98%
Oberlin - 63.83%
John Carroll - 58.76%
Ohio Wesleyan - 52.10%
Marietta - 40.50%
Case Western - 30.99%

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Hope v UWW @ UWW, and I suspect there are a number of UWW players looking to avenge their loss to Hope in the 2022 National Championship game. 

Here are the players that are playing this season and their quick stats from the 2022 game:

Hope:
Jada Gardner - 1 min
Courtney Lee - 1 min
Hannah Kurncz - 1 min
Olivia Bellows - 1 min

UWW:
Aleah Grundahl - 38 min - 11pts - 3 reb - 5 ast
Kacie Carollo - 34 min - 11 pts - 5 reb - 3 ast
Maggie Trautsch - 28 mi - 0 pts - 3 reb - 2 ast
Mallory Oloffson - 1 min
Lunden Alexander - 1 min

Not that in the Sweet 16 you need any extra motiviation, but I just thought it interesting.  Here is some stats & such comparing them this season:

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
Hope	45.2	36	73.1
UWW	48.2	29.9	73.3
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Defense	% 2pt	% 3pt
Hope	41.1	28.9
UWW	42.5	26.4
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Rebounding	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	41.9	34.4	7.5
UWW	39.4	34.6	4.8
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Scoring	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	75.4	55.9	19.5
UWW	71	57.1	13.9
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3 point shooting	Made/game
Hope	8.7
UWW	6.6
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Ball Control	Stl/game	TO/Game	OppTO/Game
Hope	10.9	14.6	19.5
UWW	9.5	15.1	18.9
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Ball Control	Asst/game	A/TO	Blks/game
Hope	12.8	0.88	3.1
UWW	14.3	0.95	3.6
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Efficiency - points per 100 possessions	AdjO	AdjD	AdjEM
from d3datacast.com	Offense	Defense	Margin
Hope	104.9	73.6	31.3
UWW	105.3	66.9	38.5
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(vRRO includes NCAA games played)	vRRO	In-Div SOS	Massey Predicts
Hope	5-2	0.544	63
UWW	8-3	0.648	69

[pointlem]

Kudos to the Hope women for an outstanding—exceeding expectations—season, including their grit last evening after facing an 18 point halftime deficit to a hot-shooting Whitewater (led by some of the top talent from its national championship game against Hope). And how great that Raven Jemison completed her career as the team's top scorer, with a career-best 14 points on 7 of 8 shooting.

With all the rest of the team returning, plus any new recruits?, Hope women's BB fans are already looking forward to next season.

Thanks also to Greg Chandler for following this team and broadcasting with such verve and affection (which he couldn't resist displaying with a little hilarity last night, when lamenting the referees missing a Hope player getting flattened, and moments later being charged with a mere touch foul: "It's hard to win when you are playing five against eight").

[Flying Dutch Fan]

D3hoops All Region awards are out, and the MIAA is well represented in Region 7:

Jada Garner - Hope - 1st team
Sidney Wagner - Trine - 1st team
Taylor Sas - Alma -  2nd team
Sydney Vis - Hope - 2nd team
RyAnn Rorher - Calvin -  3rd team

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2023-24/region-7-women

[scottiedawg]

Heck of a schedule for Hope WBB.

The strength of the schedule probably matters less in an NPI-world than in the pre-NPI-world.

https://athletics.hope.edu/sports/womens-basketball/schedule/2024-25

[ronk]

Heck of a schedule for Hope WBB.

The strength of the schedule probably matters less in an NPI-world than in the pre-NPI-world.

https://athletics.hope.edu/sports/womens-basketball/schedule/2024-25

Why? Not disputing it, just wondering how it was concluded generally.

[scottiedawg]

Two main things come to mind:

- a win that hurts your NPI gets dropped.   In the past Hope (and Calvin/Albion/Trine) rolling over the very bad bottom of the league crushed their overall SOS, and their overall NCAA Resumes were a lot worse as a result. (same happened to top teams in PAC, LAND, SCAC, and other larger, top-heavy leagues). So Hope scheduling strong in NonConf had a much larger positive impact on their overall SOS (because it got dragged down by their league), than teams in strong conferences (UAA, WIAC, NESCAC).


- RROs carried a LOT of weight. Hope had to schedule really strong in NonConf because other than Trine they weren't getting any RROs in-league.  I get the sense that the Quality Win Bonus (QWB) has less of a potential positive impact on NPI than RRO wins had on how the committee viewed your NCAA Resume.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Adrian has a new coach:

https://adrianbulldogs.com/news/2024/7/2/womens-basketball-sam-miller-to-serve-as-next-head-coach-of-adrian-college-womens-basketballl.aspx

[TUAngola]

Adrian has a new coach:

https://adrianbulldogs.com/news/2024/7/2/womens-basketball-sam-miller-to-serve-as-next-head-coach-of-adrian-college-womens-basketballl.aspx

Impressive resume. 

[ziggy]

Two main things come to mind:

- a win that hurts your NPI gets dropped.   In the past Hope (and Calvin/Albion/Trine) rolling over the very bad bottom of the league crushed their overall SOS, and their overall NCAA Resumes were a lot worse as a result. (same happened to top teams in PAC, LAND, SCAC, and other larger, top-heavy leagues). So Hope scheduling strong in NonConf had a much larger positive impact on their overall SOS (because it got dragged down by their league), than teams in strong conferences (UAA, WIAC, NESCAC).


- RROs carried a LOT of weight. Hope had to schedule really strong in NonConf because other than Trine they weren't getting any RROs in-league.  I get the sense that the Quality Win Bonus (QWB) has less of a potential positive impact on NPI than RRO wins had on how the committee viewed your NCAA Resume.

If you want to see how NPI would have shaken out for the 23-24 WBB season: https://d3datacast.com/npi/wbb-npi/
Hope would have been the sixth Pool C selection and the 18th overall seed
Trine would have been the 44th overall seed

Calvin and Albion's NPI would have been high enough that a win over either of them would have earned a quality win bonus.

The rest of the league was below the QWB baseline but the NPI system distinguishes good wins and bad losses through the entirety of the rankings. In other words, beating Alma (ranked 154 in NPI) is better than beating Mount Union (ranked 231 in NPI).

[Hope Fan]

The longest 18" on the planet are from assistant to head coach.

[TUAngola]

Trine WBB 2024-25 Schedule is up: https://trinethunder.com/sports/womens-basketball/schedule

Non-Con's against:

H Wisconsin Lutheran
H Allegheny (Cameron Hospital Classic)
H Lake Forest (Cameron Hospital Classic)
A Baldwin Wallace
H Ohio Northern
H Mount St Joseph (Trine Holiday Classic)
H Millikin (Trine Holiday Classic)
A Wisconsin-Oshkosh (UW-Oshkosh Winter Classic)
A Ripon (UW-Oshkosh Winter Classic) 

Pretty good non-con slate, 5 of the 9 were in the NCAA tournament last year (WLU, BW, ONU, Mill, UWO).  Another (MSJ) was 22-6.